Atlus Persona 5

[Jasede]

This is one of the worse Persona games but the guy who said it has a sublime UI is right, it's excellent.

The big problem with P5 is that it drags and is far, far too easy on the highest difficulty due to the many new systems they added. If you thought P4 on Hard was too easy you are in for a rude awakening; this game practically beats itself. It is so easy it barely feels like like an SMT game. Worse, I honestly thought the dungeons were somewhat uninspired. Are they randomly generated in 4? Yes. But I found their themes and tunes more interesting.

Just played P4G for the first time and I'm not sure about that. It was extremely easy as well, gameplay wise more boring due to randomised layouts, and the themes were all pretty narrow and derivative of each other. Seems like the two games share a lot of the same flaws, and then P5 adds some welcome new things and there are some tone/flavour differences.

You play on Hard/Expert? Dungeons 1 & 2 in P4 should be plenty hard then, and then the difficulty drops off and increases only again in the endgame.


But in P3 FES it never really gets any easier.

In 5 I didn't encounter much difficulty with the single exception of a fight in the bank stage.

 

[GhostCow]

Where is the community for it?

https://gamebanana.com/games/8263

Oh wow there is even new content mods. Unfortunately it is just gay romance with Yosuke. But for a Denuvo'ed game that's pretty good

Denuvo has never stopped any game from being modded as far as I know. It literally has nothing to do with mods and does not work in a way that effects them at all. I have no idea where you got this idea.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Where is the community for it?

https://gamebanana.com/games/8263

Oh wow there is even new content mods. Unfortunately it is just gay romance with Yosuke. But for a Denuvo'ed game that's pretty good

Denuvo has never stopped any game from being modded as far as I know. It literally has nothing to do with mods and does not work in a way that effects them at all. I have no idea where you got this idea.

hmm yeah, I assumed that preventing the .exe from being tampered would affect how modding works outside of simple texture replacement but it seems not

 

[Late Bloomer]

Was thinking of picking this up. Without spoilers if possible, can achieving the true ending (i assume this game has one for obvious reasons) be possible without a guide and is it worth fretting over?

 

[GhostCow]

Was thinking of picking this up. Without spoilers if possible, can achieving the true ending (i assume this game has one for obvious reasons) be possible without a guide and is it worth fretting over?

Just max social ranks with Kasumi and Akechi iirc. It's not hard.

 

[Jasede]

GhostCow
I see you rated my message negatively. Would you like to put your argument forward as to the strengths of P5 and why its low difficulty is no obstacle for you in liking it?

I just feel so violated by these ratings because I have no idea what part of the post you don't like, or if maybe you just think P4 is bad.

 

[GhostCow]

GhostCow
I see you rated my message negatively. Would you like to put your argument forward as to the strengths of P5 and why its low difficulty is no obstacle for you in liking it?

I just feel so violated by these ratings because I have no idea what part of the post you don't like, or if maybe you just think P4 is bad.

Liking the randomly generated dungeons in P4 over the wonderful hand crafted dungeons in P5 is insane to me. I also don't think Persona is meant to feel like an SMT game. I don't really play games for the difficulty, especially not JRPGs, though that can add to the fun factor in stuff like the mainline SMT games. The combat is less braindead than Chrono Trigger. Only bringing that up because I just know someone is going to bring up how I shit on CT's difficulty.

Persona 5 is my favorite JRPG of all time for multiple reasons. There's no game out there that comes even close to being as stylish, the soundtrack is amazing, and the waifus are all pretty good. The story really hits home for me too. Imagine if you could do what the Phantom Thieves do to all of the corrupt people fucking our world up. It's the closest thing to an ultimate power fantasy for me that I've seen.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

Denuvo in P4G has been cracked very fast.

 

[GhostCow]

Denuvo in P4G has been cracked very fast.

Wasn't cracked. The devs fucked up and accidentally uploaded a clean exe

 

[perfectslumbers]

Denuvo in P4G has been cracked very fast.

Yeah because Atlus accidentally uploaded a version without Denuvo

 

[Tyrr]

Was thinking of picking this up. Without spoilers if possible, can achieving the true ending (i assume this game has one for obvious reasons) be possible without a guide and is it worth fretting over?

I just played normal P5 before (playing P5R right now). But if P5R is similar as P4G then you get enough extra time to easily max out all confidants.
Playing with a guide takes away a lot of fun of your first blind playthough.

 

[Tigranes]

This is one of the worse Persona games but the guy who said it has a sublime UI is right, it's excellent.

The big problem with P5 is that it drags and is far, far too easy on the highest difficulty due to the many new systems they added. If you thought P4 on Hard was too easy you are in for a rude awakening; this game practically beats itself. It is so easy it barely feels like like an SMT game. Worse, I honestly thought the dungeons were somewhat uninspired. Are they randomly generated in 4? Yes. But I found their themes and tunes more interesting.

Just played P4G for the first time and I'm not sure about that. It was extremely easy as well, gameplay wise more boring due to randomised layouts, and the themes were all pretty narrow and derivative of each other. Seems like the two games share a lot of the same flaws, and then P5 adds some welcome new things and there are some tone/flavour differences.

You play on Hard/Expert? Dungeons 1 & 2 in P4 should be plenty hard then, and then the difficulty drops off and increases only again in the endgame.


But in P3 FES it never really gets any easier.

In 5 I didn't encounter much difficulty with the single exception of a fight in the bank stage.

I've yet to play P3, but yes, always hard difficulties, and both P4 & P5 were the same "small modicum of challenge possibly at start then none after".

Either way, though, we're not here to argue 0.2 vs 0.3 right? Both games were similarly easy that for me it wasn't really a difference maker for either game. Persona is largely carried by its style and P5 has ton of style, so it's hard for me to consider it an 'inferior' in the series.

 

[notpl]

Denuvo in P4G has been cracked very fast.

Yeah because Atlus accidentally uploaded a version without Denuvo

If you have a modern PC you can just emulate the switch version. Should run at 60 fps on any PC built in the last 5 years.

 

[perfectslumbers]

The dialogue and confidants in this game make the companions and dialogue in most western games seem pathetic in comparison. The way they're implemented is so natural too, compared to companions in western RPGS which usually sit in your main base and dump their entire backstory on you in conversations.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

If you really want to pirate Persona 5, you can just use an emulator for the original version. Should run fine on a lot of setups once you figure out any tech issues.

The graphics are pretty nice in Royal, but you're not going to be missing out on all that much.



That said, I'm glad I picked up Royal. The graphics updates are welcome, the soundtrack is still excellent and, as far as ports go, it's not bad. They implemented mouse and keyboard controls well enough at least.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

If you have a modern PC you can just emulate the switch version. Should run at 60 fps on any PC built in the last 5 years.

Or get the original, on PS3 emulator, which may be more stable.

 

[GhostCow]

If you have a modern PC you can just emulate the switch version. Should run at 60 fps on any PC built in the last 5 years.

Or get the original, on PS3 emulator, which may be more stable.

Not worth missing out on best girl and the true ending though imo

 

[Nifft Batuff]

If you really want to pirate Persona 5, you can just use an emulator for the original versio

Or emulating P5R for the switch. Switch emulation is less demanding than PS3 emulation, and rather stable (at least with Ryujinx+Vulkan, with Yuzu it is even less demanding but there are some graphics glitches if you use Vulkan). Switch loading times are also smaller than PS3 loading times and with emulators you can scale the graphics to higher resolutions smoothly without needing special mods.

Obviously native PC version should be even less demanding and should run smoothly even on a potato, with loading times smaller than the Switch version. If we forget about Denuvo for a moment, this should be the best version to play. I have heard however that there are strange stuttering and resolution scaling problems in the PC version, even in this forum, but I haven't seen any video objectively documenting that.

 

[blessedCoffee]

Denuvo in P4G has been cracked very fast.

Yeah because Atlus accidentally uploaded a version without Denuvo

Good, they should suffer for using this crap on their releases.



Denuvo sucks donkey ball$!

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Not worth missing out on best girl and the true ending though imo

Does not compute. How would you miss out on Futaba when she's in the base game?

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Switch emulation is less demanding than PS3 emulation, and rather stable

My experience with Fire Emblem was less than stable, so I can't recommend it, but if you've played it all the way through on Switch emulation, than I guess it's stable.

If we forget about Denuvo for a moment, this should be the best version to play. I have heard however that there are strange stuttering and resolution scaling problems in the PC version, even in this forum, but I haven't seen any video objectively documenting that.

Haven't seen any of this, but I actually bought the game.

 

[Jasede]

Morgana only character worth dating.

 

[perfectslumbers]

I have heard however that there are strange stuttering

I've had strange stuttering issues but they can usually be fixed just by restarting the game. Although a single particular room in the second palace would tank my fps to around 10. Loading times are extremely fast though, basically instant. Very refreshing after playing Unity CRPGS which all have long loading screens even on an ssd.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

May depend on specs. I'm on an old RTX 2070 laptop with the latest Nvidia drivers. Flawless performance even after hours of continuous play. Loading times seem to be instant, but when I emulated the PS3 version, I recall them being fast as well.

 

[Ivan]

so begins my first Persona experience.

off to a good start