Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[Felix]

At least DSIII is fun.

 

[Roguey]

Dumb backer crap that has no relevance to anything whatsoever other than the backer's ego.

 

[Fairfax]

Dumb backer crap that has no relevance to anything whatsoever other than the backer's ego.

Agreed, but it was still amusing.

 

[Lawntoilet]

You could just see how popamole this site is. I even voted for fallout 76 to troll and was surprised that it was leading

Kingmaker in last place?
LAST PLACE!?

 

[fantadomat]

Kingmaker in last place?
LAST PLACE!?

It is no surprise at all,even the codex is filled with "modern" people at this point. Doubt that it will win the goty here,most likely deadfire will.

 

[TemplarGR]

It is no surprise at all,even the codex is filled with "modern" people at this point. Doubt that it will win the goty here,most likely deadfire will.

Dude, you are "modern people" no1 here. You even joined just a year ago... It is hillarious that you talk about "modern people".

 

[Safav Hamon]

Deadfire is the better game, so it deserves to be in the lead.

 

[Immortal]

Dumb backer crap that has no relevance to anything whatsoever other than the backer's ego.

What if the backer is a qt girl from Hong Kong. xDDDDDD

 

[TemplarGR]

You could just see how popamole this site is. I even voted for fallout 76 to troll and was surprised that it was leading

Unsurprising.

JRPGs will always have a large audience of 12 year olds and faggots. And those idiots will always vote for anything remotely anime-looking. It is the same manchild idiots who still watch Dragon Ball in their 40s.

Kingdom Come Deliverance was not a bad game, was not great either. It was mostly good for the graphics and the somewhat-faithful recreation of a medieval world. It is natural that most people would vote for it since graphics are everything for 99% of the gaming population.

As for Kingmaker, this is a vote for Russians and edgelord grognards. Russians vote for nationalistic reasons, the same reasons Poles vote for the Witcher and Techland games, and grognards will vote for anything provided it is broken enough and its combat system is convoluted enough so that normal mortals can't get through.

PoE II Deadfire is your typical best CRPG of the year that will end up in 3rd place because only a small part of the population is left after removing the above 3 categories.

 

[Lawntoilet]

Deadfire is the better game, so it deserves to be in the lead.

Don't get me wrong, I like Deadfire, but Kingmaker is a better game. Deadfire is more polished but its core is just not as good.

You could just see how popamole this site is. I even voted for fallout 76 to troll and was surprised that it was leading

Unsurprising.

JRPGs will always have a large audience of 12 year olds and faggots. And those idiots will always vote for anything remotely anime-looking. It is the same manchild idiots who still watch Dragon Ball in their 40s.

Kingdom Come Deliverance was not a bad game, was not great either. It was mostly good for the graphics and the somewhat-faithful recreation of a medieval world. It is natural that most people would vote for it since graphics are everything for 99% of the gaming population.

As for Kingmaker, this is a vote for Russians and edgelord grognards. Russians vote for nationalistic reasons, the same reasons Poles vote for the Witcher and Techland games, and grognards will vote for anything provided it is broken enough and its combat system is convoluted enough so that normal mortals can't get through.

PoE II Deadfire is your typical best CRPG of the year that will end up in 3rd place because only a small part of the population is left after removing the above 3 categories.

You are right about JRPGs. There are good ones, but that has basically no bearing on their popularity, it seems.
Never played Kingdom Come yet but it looks cool and I've heard good things.
Not a Slav and barely a grog (never played a Gold Box or Wizardry game) but Kingmaker is the patrician choice. You think 3.PF d20 rules are too convoluted yet you call yourself a combatfag?
Deadfire is better than PoE1 but is still just fine, not like Kingmaker.

 

[Safav Hamon]

Deadfire is the better game, so it deserves to be in the lead.

Don't get me wrong, I like Deadfire, but Kingmaker is a better game. Deadfire is more polished but its core is just not as good.

I disagree. At its core, Kingmaker is broken Russian shovelware with more ambition than finesse or budget.

Deadfire at its core is a beautiful, polished, and mechanically deep experience that makes Kingmaker look incompetent.

 

[Safav Hamon]

Deadfire's review score finally bumped to 82% btw. Recent reviews are still overwhelmingly positive.

 

[TemplarGR]

Don't get me wrong, I like Deadfire, but Kingmaker is a better game. Deadfire is more polished but its core is just not as good.

You are right about JRPGs. There are good ones, but that has basically no bearing on their popularity, it seems.
Never played Kingdom Come yet but it looks cool and I've heard good things.
Not a Slav and barely a grog (never played a Gold Box or Wizardry game) but Kingmaker is the patrician choice. You think 3.PF d20 rules are too convoluted yet you call yourself a combatfag?
Deadfire is better than PoE1 but is still just fine, not like Kingmaker.

1) Combat = convoluted does not equal Combat = Good. Just because something is complex, does not mean it requires higher brain capability, sometimes it requires just higher levels of autism.

2) Voting for the wrong reasons does not mean that your vote was wrong. Poles voting for the Witcher 3 because it's polish does not mean that Witcher 3 was not a stellar game. It just means that they voted for a good game for the wrong reason. The one does not invalidate the other, they can both be true.

3)I love DnD and i am a fan of dnd CRPGs. I suppose i would enjoy Kingmaker, when it is actually officially released, in 2020. Right now it is early access while PoE II is playable. It is unfair to treat Kingmaker as a released game, given its current state.

 

[Lawntoilet]

Don't get me wrong, I like Deadfire, but Kingmaker is a better game. Deadfire is more polished but its core is just not as good.

You are right about JRPGs. There are good ones, but that has basically no bearing on their popularity, it seems.
Never played Kingdom Come yet but it looks cool and I've heard good things.
Not a Slav and barely a grog (never played a Gold Box or Wizardry game) but Kingmaker is the patrician choice. You think 3.PF d20 rules are too convoluted yet you call yourself a combatfag?
Deadfire is better than PoE1 but is still just fine, not like Kingmaker.

1) Combat = convoluted does not equal Combat = Good. Just because something is complex, does not mean it requires higher brain capability, sometimes it requires just higher levels of autism.

2) Voting for the wrong reasons does not mean that your vote was wrong. Poles voting for the Witcher 3 because it's polish does not mean that Witcher 3 was not a stellar game. It just means that they voted for a good game for the wrong reason. The one does not invalidate the other, they can both be true.

3)I love DnD and i am a fan of dnd CRPGs. I suppose i would enjoy Kingmaker, when it is actually officially released, in 2020. Right now it is early access while PoE II is playable. It is unfair to treat Kingmaker as a released game, given its current state.

1) The combat isn't more convoluted than PoE2. The rules offer more options at the expense of
2) OK, but I'm voting for the right reasons which is that Kingmaker gave me the more rewarding RPG experience.
3) I experienced fewer bugs and broken quests in my playthrough of Kingmaker at release than my playthrough of Deadfire at release.
Difficulty and encounter design is bad at the end of the game, but not as bad as everything becoming piss-easy at midlevels in Deadfire at release. I was actually able to complete Kingmaker whereas I had to give up and set aside PoE2 because even on PotD I instakilled everything.

Deadfire is the better game, so it deserves to be in the lead.

Don't get me wrong, I like Deadfire, but Kingmaker is a better game. Deadfire is more polished but its core is just not as good.

I disagree. At its core, Kingmaker is broken Russian shovelware with more ambition than finesse or budget.

Deadfire at its core is a beautiful, polished, and mechanically deep experience that makes Kingmaker look incompetent.

Again, fewer bugs at release in my Kingmaker playthrough vs Deadfire. PoE2 is more polished now.
At its core, it is hampered by being unfocused and torn between fun pirate adventures and epic soulz quests, having a nonthreatening threat to the whole world, and not giving you much reason to do anything about it instead of just having fun pirate adventures (which is fun, yeah).
Also the ruleset is not deeper than the one in PF, though it is more clearly communicated in the game.

 

[Yosharian]

Deadfire is the better game, so it deserves to be in the lead.

Don't get me wrong, I like Deadfire, but Kingmaker is a better game. Deadfire is more polished but its core is just not as good.

I disagree. At its core, Kingmaker is broken Russian shovelware with more ambition than finesse or budget.

Deadfire at its core is a beautiful, polished, and mechanically deep experience that makes Kingmaker look incompetent.

...

what.

 

[TemplarGR]

1) The combat isn't more convoluted than PoE2. The rules offer more options at the expense of
2) OK, but I'm voting for the right reasons which is that Kingmaker gave me the more rewarding RPG experience.
3) I experienced fewer bugs and broken quests in my playthrough of Kingmaker at release than my playthrough of Deadfire at release.
Difficulty and encounter design is bad at the end of the game, but not as bad as everything becoming piss-easy at midlevels in Deadfire at release. I was actually able to complete Kingmaker whereas I had to give up and set aside PoE2 because even on PotD I instakilled everything.


Again, fewer bugs at release in my Kingmaker playthrough vs Deadfire. PoE2 is more polished now.
At its core, it is hampered by being unfocused and torn between fun pirate adventures and epic soulz quests, having a nonthreatening threat to the whole world, and not giving you much reason to do anything about it instead of just having fun pirate adventures (which is fun, yeah).
Also the ruleset is not deeper than the one in PF, though it is more clearly communicated in the game.

I am going to take your word for it. That Kingmaker can be completed with fewer bugs than PoEII. I have it installed. I will begin a campaign. But if i find it is indeed broken:

 

[moleman]

It is no surprise at all,even the codex is filled with "modern" people at this point. Doubt that it will win the goty here,most likely deadfire will.

Dude, you are "modern people" no1 here. You even joined just a year ago... It is hillarious that you talk about "modern people".

Yes, because everyone knows that you can only be a connoisseur of classic rpgs after 5 years of shitposting in the Codex.

 

[fantadomat]

It is no surprise at all,even the codex is filled with "modern" people at this point. Doubt that it will win the goty here,most likely deadfire will.

Dude, you are "modern people" no1 here. You even joined just a year ago... It is hillarious that you talk about "modern people".

Yes, because everyone knows that you can only be a connoisseur of classic rpgs after 5 years of shitposting in the Codex.

Don't waste your time on him,he is a fine connoisseur of goats.

 

[Lawntoilet]

1) The combat isn't more convoluted than PoE2. The rules offer more options at the expense of
2) OK, but I'm voting for the right reasons which is that Kingmaker gave me the more rewarding RPG experience.
3) I experienced fewer bugs and broken quests in my playthrough of Kingmaker at release than my playthrough of Deadfire at release.
Difficulty and encounter design is bad at the end of the game, but not as bad as everything becoming piss-easy at midlevels in Deadfire at release. I was actually able to complete Kingmaker whereas I had to give up and set aside PoE2 because even on PotD I instakilled everything.


Again, fewer bugs at release in my Kingmaker playthrough vs Deadfire. PoE2 is more polished now.
At its core, it is hampered by being unfocused and torn between fun pirate adventures and epic soulz quests, having a nonthreatening threat to the whole world, and not giving you much reason to do anything about it instead of just having fun pirate adventures (which is fun, yeah).
Also the ruleset is not deeper than the one in PF, though it is more clearly communicated in the game.

I am going to take your word for it. That Kingmaker can be completed with fewer bugs than PoEII. I have it installed. I will begin a campaign. But if i find it is indeed broken:

Well like I said, Deadfire isn't as buggy now, but its bugs affected my playthrough more at release than Kingmaker. Just so we're clear.
Owlcat was pushing out bugfixes really fast. Now they just need to overhaul the endgame encounter design.

It is no surprise at all,even the codex is filled with "modern" people at this point. Doubt that it will win the goty here,most likely deadfire will.

Dude, you are "modern people" no1 here. You even joined just a year ago... It is hillarious that you talk about "modern people".

Yes, because everyone knows that you can only be a connoisseur of classic rpgs after 5 years of shitposting in the Codex.

Don't waste your time on him,he is a fine connoisseur of goats.

:informative:

 

[Sailor Woedica]

Kingmaker in last place?
LAST PLACE!?

It should be against the rules anyway for early access games to be up for nomination

 

[Lawntoilet]

Kingmaker in last place?
LAST PLACE!?

It should be against the rules anyway for early access games to be up for nomination

I assume Dragon Quest was pretty polished on release, but Deadfire was buggy as shit when it came out and so was Kingdom Come, from what I read.
I guess you only have one option, then.

 

[AwesomeButton]

The real spiritual successor is Kingmaker. Deadfire and PoE are pretentious crap next to it.

Deal with it.

 

[Sailor Woedica]

How can you nominate a game that 1% of players have managed to complete by hacking their way through increasingly buggy chapters, sis? I don't want to have to read a 13 page printout on how to complete a chapter in a videogame, story time is meant to be a difficulty setting not a faq guide you read before playing a game so you don't bug out and crash. facts.

 

[fantadomat]

and so was Kingdom Come,

Not really,compared to bugsidian's gem and patchmaker it was a fucking bug free game.

 

[TemplarGR]

I assume Dragon Quest was pretty polished on release, but Deadfire was buggy as shit when it came out and so was Kingdom Come, from what I read.
I guess you only have one option, then.

You raise a serious question. We need to hold developers accountable because shit has reached the fan. Look what happened with Fallout 76... I mean, do they even QA these days?