Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[Xeon]

If you are using an Nvidia, did you try these?
https://support.obsidian.net/articl...s-and-constant-crashing-with-nvidia-gfx-cards

I didn't bother limiting the framerates, just changing some of the values listed Nvidia Control panel. Helped with the stuttering.

 

[pomenitul]

It’s been a while, but none of that worked for me. Reinstalling Windows didn’t either by the way. It’s a lost cause.

I called them out on it and here's what they had to say:

Unfortunately we were unable to get NVidia to provide us support for this issue. While trying to get that support, we worked with various users who had these graphical issues and collected a list of solutions that worked for them. If you are still having performance issues I highly recommend trying out the solutions listed above as they've helped a lot.

Never mind that none of those 'solutions' did anything on my end. I lol'd at the blame-shifting though.

 

[Lacrymas]

What a circus.

 

[Infinitron]

Unfortunately we were unable to get NVidia to provide us support for this issue.

Tsk tsk, what's the point of being a Microsoft studio if you still get treated like a bum

 

[Yosharian]

Oh yes I'm sure it's NVIDIA's fault

 

[purpleblob]

Kingmaker for the RTwP clusterfuck. Deadfire for turn based tacticoolness.

You mean you play Deadfire for epic clusterfuckness. No wonder it *needed* TB implementation, otherwise plays like a dogshit.

 

[Safav Hamon]

 

[Lacrymas]

There shouldn't be any text on top of characters in RTwP RPGs, that's made abundantly clear now.

 

[purpleblob]

Thanks for proving my point by posting TB version of Deadfire. Too embarassed to post RTwP version screenshot of Deadfire, aren't you?

 

[Safav Hamon]

Only dumbasses care about RTwP. For the record though, it IS more manageable for two reasons

Spoiler

Combat speed setting

AI behavior editor

 

[purpleblob]

Only dumbasses care about RTwP.

Says the fan boy who's been licking Obsidian's ass since the release of Deadfire with RTwP combat.

 

[vortex]

Why they haven't patched this mod for inverse CPU performance scaling in official update ?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/560130/discussions/0/2572002906843374108/

20 second loading screen with an SSD is unacceptable.

5 sec load time would be fine.

 

[Lacrymas]

I don't think they've done any performance optimizations since the game launched.

 

[FreeKaner]

I was thinking why I find the combat in deadfire moderately enjoyable despite disagreeing with almost all design approaches sawyer has and the system at place in general. It is because of options of character archetypes and itemisation basically, there are a lot of them and they are different. Especially itemisation, it is everything that the system is not. The system is extremely streamlined, it is all about stacking multipliers to fill a bar of statistics to reach a critical mass of numbers, it is nearly always about efficiency (in itself not a bad thing) above all and overall just feels like a bad mmo. Itemisation on the other hand are opposite, items are unique, they have tangible impact and they are recognisable with their bonuses, they change how things work out in combat and getting thresholds in enchantments is very satisfying and you immediately feel the effects. Imagine if a game existed that actually had a good system that wasn't such streamlined garbage about adding up several 10-15% bonuses.

 

[FreeKaner]

Really this game should be a case study in how to hold back the highlights of your game by actively sabotaging it.

 

[Yosharian]

Why they haven't patched this mod for inverse CPU performance scaling in official update ?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/560130/discussions/0/2572002906843374108/

20 second loading screen with an SSD is unacceptable.

5 sec load time would be fine.

I tried that Special K thing, very minimal frame gains. Queen's Berth went up like 5 FPS. Other area went up from ~90 to ~98. It's a boost, but not the dramatic boost this guy's painting it as. Not for me, anyway.

 

[Sharpedge]

You should post another picture of those "epic" deadfire bosses, which have such "interesting" design and yet devolve into pressing the same buttons for an hour or so and not really having to do any thinking to win. Those fights have absolutely 0 respect for a players time and they are not difficult, just time consuming stat bloat.

 

[Sailor Woedica]

If you're having such a problem playing it on your pc's just buy it on console later this year!

 

[Roguey]

Unfortunately we were unable to get NVidia to provide us support for this issue.

Tsk tsk, what's the point of being a Microsoft studio if you still get treated like a bum

Josh Sawyer has spoken in the past about how being an acquired studio is the worst of both worlds. Fairfax can provide the direct quote, I don't care enough about it anymore.

 

[Safav Hamon]

You should post another picture of those "epic" deadfire bosses, which have such "interesting" design and yet devolve into pressing the same buttons for an hour or so and not really having to do any thinking to win.

This is obvious bullshit, but if a boss is actually taking you longer than 5-15 minutes it's because your party consists entirely of healing bot tanks.

Those fights have absolutely 0 respect for a players time and they are not difficult, just time consuming stat bloat.

Ironic that you would complain about stat bloat in defense of Kingmaker, which is the king of ridiculously bloated stats on enemies.

 

[Sharpedge]

You should post another picture of those "epic" deadfire bosses, which have such "interesting" design and yet devolve into pressing the same buttons for an hour or so and not really having to do any thinking to win.

This is obvious bullshit, but if a boss is actually taking you longer than 5-15 minutes it's because your party consists entirely of healing bot tanks.

Those fights have absolutely 0 respect for a players time and they are not difficult, just time consuming stat bloat.

Ironic that you would complain about stat bloat in defense of Kingmaker, which is the king of ridiculously bloated stats on enemies.

Oracle

I like to play these games solo. Pathfinder fights solo unfair, you need to think a bit, adjust tactics and once you found a way to deal with them, they are over in a reasonable amount of time. Here? Just press the same buttons over and over again for very long periods of time. The bosses literally have 1000s of hit points. If that is not the very definition of stat bloat, then I don't know what is. If I was to compare a similar fight of a similar scale, the lantern king, to the oracle, it has multiple phases, each which has its own tactics and you need to adjust to each phase as you go along. In that fight, I actually had the possibility of wiping and needing to start over, I needed to think. Pillars of Eternity 2 on PoTD? 1 size fits all approach, I used the same tactics for this fight that I used for pretty much every other fight in the game, with no need to deviate at all. First attempt going in blind, it was an easy win, which in itself is ok, but if a game is going to be easy then don't waste my time with 1000s of hitpoints.

 

[aweigh]

I don't have any major problems with PoE systems/mechanics, besides the fact that they were obviously not thought up with a RTwP framework in mind; my issue with PoE 2 specifically is the dry-as-fuck boring writing, boring setting, boring characters, boring companions, etc.

It's such a sterile, neutered middle-of-the-road game in its writing and presentation that it becomes... very boring.

EDIT: Oh, also actively dislike the ship sailing (slows down exploration for no real gain), and I think Neketaka is too big, and you guessed it: boring. Should've made more (and more interesting) dungeons instead of that giant boring city.

 

[vortex]

Poe3 needs more concise dialogue. Many dialogues in poe2 are too long where one can dose off.

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

Fairfax can provide the direct quote, I don't care enough about it anymore.

 

[jf8350143]

Kingmaker would be a 10 times better game if it was turn based, and remove 80% of the trash mobs.

Deadfire is much better in this regard.