Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[Alienman]

Why does it not feel intended? Considering starting TB mode myself, but this makes me question that decision.

 

[Jimmious]

Why does it not feel intended? Considering starting TB mode myself, but this makes me question that decision.

I can't explain it man... It might just be my own weird mind. It just feels like everything was built with RTwP in mind and then they put in the TB mode but there are still leftovers here and there (pause button working during battles is one example)

 

[vortex]

Does playing with TB mode take longer time to finish the game than with RTwP? Does anyone have the numbers?

 

[Tim the Bore]

TB is better than RTwP, but yeah - it makes the game much, much longer. PoE 2 wasn't designed around that kind of system, so certain encounters - those with 10 or more enemies - takes fucking forever to finish (especialy ship-to-ship fights). Plus, TB reveals some problems with the mechanics (because you can actually see what is going on). And, funny enough, if you were ambushed during the fight, new enemies may start walking during your turn :D

Still, given the choice, TB is a no-brainer. Your actions have more impact and the numbers matters. Certain aspects of PoE 2 mechanics have more sense with TB.

 

[Quillon]

Does playing with TB mode take longer time to finish the game than with RTwP? Does anyone have the numbers?

Started TB mode just to see how it is and quickly restarted in RTwP... have been playing in RTwP for about a week. If I were playing in TB it would have taken months to get to where I am in the game lol.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Yeah, the encounters are not revised in any way for TB. I think we've been over this, or at least I've already ranted about it, but it was long ago.

 

[Orma]

No reason to play tb unless you are really bored and\or doing your 10th playthru

 

[Bohr]

The verdict is in



#madewithunity

 

[Lacrymas]

Yeah, it's definitely Unity, not the hand-painted backgrounds or anything. He might be talking about the dynamic lighting, but eh, I don't really care all that much for it.

 

[Elephantman]

Yeah, it's definitely Unity, not the hand-painted backgrounds or anything. He might be talking about the dynamic lighting, but eh, I don't really care all that much for it.

They have normals backed in. And you dont care for that one specific example with point lights. You would care if you'd seen the game without dynamic lighting.

His example is trash though. The bulbs move nothing like wind-driven. They move as if an invisible Brennecke is holding them and pulling left right at a constant pace.
Like, the first lesson in animation is considering de/acceleration instead of speed and how it changes perception.
It wasnt considered here...

A better example would have been some darker area, where lights, some plain effects like particles and classic pixelshaders overlap.

But I guess his fps drops into single digits so he cant make a gif xD

 

[Elephantman]

~700 dmg sum on a single shot, corner assassin, its borderline cheating, theoretically this could be a level 3 char with a gun (its is 5)

And they are Dazed for 15s. Dazed is -4 to Pen and cannot Engage lel!
You literally can walk up to them with 1HP and get another 4 axe attacks in with 0 danger if you kill the ranged ones quickly. And then you have another 4 Smokeveils and hence 4 Backstabs but not with that gun xD but an Axe is fine too =D

And the shot is without the +100% backstab bonus...
You could Leap with the cheating boots directly to them, and get at least 2 into Backstab range.

 

[PsychoFox]

How's the new TB combat addition to PoE II? Competent or a cheap hackjob?

 

[Haplo]

~700 dmg sum on a single shot, corner assassin, its borderline cheating, theoretically this could be a level 3 char with a gun (its is 5)
And they are Dazed for 15s. Dazed is -4 to Pen and cannot Engage lel!
You literally can walk up to them with 1HP and get another 4 axe attacks in with 0 danger if you kill the ranged ones quickly. And then you have another 4 Smokeveils and hence 4 Backstabs but not with that gun xD but an Axe is fine too =D

And the shot is without the +100% backstab bonus...
You could Leap with the cheating boots directly to them, and get at least 2 into Backstab range.

Yeah, Sawyer's "Balance" was mostly a meme...

Although they did nerf some nice or average items into uselessness early.

Still, many are left.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

How's the new TB combat addition to PoE II? Competent or a cheap hackjob?

worse than a fanmade mod for kangmaker

 

[PsychoFox]

How's the new TB combat addition to PoE II? Competent or a cheap hackjob?

worse than a fanmade mod for kangmaker

Ughh.. wow. Why can't Kingmaker just not stutter. #despair

 

[Quillon]

Playing through SSS, recovering artifacts for the faces of the hunt on Kazuwari island. In the Köhetekana Expanse scripted illustration I lose all party members; one by one to a spider, seemingly no way to fight the damn thing... WTF? How do I get the artifact? Googling "Kohetekana Expanse" returns zero results...... ffs

ed: nvm, figured it out

 

[Reinhardt]

Ekera!

 

[Tigranes]

How's the new TB combat addition to PoE II? Competent or a cheap hackjob?

It's fine, it's what you get when you take a RTwP game and insert a TB mode for it. Obviously encounters aren't exactly going to be optimised for TB etc, but if you (1) hate RTwP so much you can't play it, or (2) enjoyed POE2 and want to give it another whirl, then it's there. But it's not exactly going to transform the entire game wholesale.

I'd say RTwP overall is the better experience because it was built for it, and some of the mechanisms like optimising attack speeds & reload times falls away, but TB can certainly help mitigate if you felt like RTwP was a confusing clusterfuck.

 

[PsychoFox]

How's the new TB combat addition to PoE II? Competent or a cheap hackjob?

It's fine, it's what you get when you take a RTwP game and insert a TB mode for it. Obviously encounters aren't exactly going to be optimised for TB etc, but if you (1) hate RTwP so much you can't play it, or (2) enjoyed POE2 and want to give it another whirl, then it's there. But it's not exactly going to transform the entire game wholesale.

I'd say RTwP overall is the better experience because it was built for it, and some of the mechanisms like optimising attack speeds & reload times falls away, but TB can certainly help mitigate if you felt like RTwP was a confusing clusterfuck.

Yeah i started playing and i don't mind the RTwP so far. Never was against in the first place. The TB on the other hand is a hackjob imo. Like someone above said, the mod for PFKM is done better.

 

[PsychoFox]

Okay fam, just let me know of one thing about the game:

Spoiler

Can I fucking kill that bitch Berath?

 

[Lacrymas]

Okay fam, just let me know of one thing about the game:

Spoiler

Can I fucking kill that bitch Berath?

No.

 

[Quillon]

Okay fam, just let me know of one thing about the game:

Spoiler

Can I fucking kill that bitch Berath?

You can potentially doom her I guess, along with the others.

 

[PsychoFox]

Okay fam, just let me know of one thing about the game:

Spoiler

Can I fucking kill that bitch Berath?

You can potentially doom her I guess, along with the others.

Yea I'll probably do that.

 

[PsychoFox]

Okay fam, just let me know of one thing about the game:

Spoiler

Can I fucking kill that bitch Berath?

No.

Nothing worse in an RPG than a patronizing character that can't be taken down a peg or two.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Okay fam, just let me know of one thing about the game:

Spoiler

Can I fucking kill that bitch Berath?

Leave my waifu alone