Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[Haplo]

will probably start my first playthrough tomorrow. going for veteran because, if I recall correctly, the normal/classic (whatever) on PoE1 was somewhat easy and I don't really know what Potd plays like.
Is human ranger a viable option for a charname? would like to go full clepto with pewpew (bow) and a pet. do I get a decent ranged companion? if yes then I don't really need to be one.
if not a ranger, what's the class for a savage dwarf - like a self buffing cleric/paladin with a splash of barbarian? how easy it is to fuck up a multiclass build - should I rather go single class (pally OR barb OR cleric)?

thanks.

(didn't find any "deadfire Builds" topic, if it exists can a mod move it there? please and thank you)

For a dwarf that likes to makes things go boom, a Sharpshooter / Streetfighter Rogue with dual blunderbusses (and particularly Serafen's aoe Hand Mortar & Fire in the Hole combo) is really strong. Or Helwalker Monk / Streetfighter. Note Blunderbuss Powder Burns modal triggers the Streetfighter special.

Maia is more of a long range single target sniper, so there isn't even that much overlap.

 

[Riddler]

I can't for the life of me find it on its own, but that boss fight theme they've included in the Forgotten Sanctum DLC is pretty sweet:

Like all of the good music in Deadfire, it either comes from White march or Pillars 1. The original music for Deadfire is an embarrassment.

 

[Lacrymas]

Ultimate in this game is a joke, there's probably no way to win it without Priest and Brilliant inspiration due to the challenges being so shit. And I'd say Magran and Hylea are the culprits, both are absolutely retarded for the way this game is made.

 

[Starwars]

will probably start my first playthrough tomorrow. going for veteran because, if I recall correctly, the normal/classic (whatever) on PoE1 was somewhat easy and I don't really know what Potd plays like.
Is human ranger a viable option for a charname? would like to go full clepto with pewpew (bow) and a pet. do I get a decent ranged companion? if yes then I don't really need to be one.
if not a ranger, what's the class for a savage dwarf - like a self buffing cleric/paladin with a splash of barbarian? how easy it is to fuck up a multiclass build - should I rather go single class (pally OR barb OR cleric)?

thanks.

(didn't find any "deadfire Builds" topic, if it exists can a mod move it there? please and thank you)

I'd say it's pretty hard to fuck up a multi-class build if you're playing "normally". While the nulti-class system can feel slightly like "nothing matters too much", I think it's pretty successful for making most combinations workable and useful in some way. I'm not a fan of the most the changes they did to Deadfire in terms of combat mechanics but I like the class system a fair bit.

One thing I think you should look up is reducing the XP point gain a bit. You can google how to do it. Reducing it about 20-30% makes the game play better I think.

 

[Atchodas]

Most Multiclass builds are fucked up by default because you won't get access to strongest abilities of single class, you should always look what you sacrifice when going for Multi(You always Sacrifice 2 Power Levels when going for multi making ALL of your damaging spells/abilities weaker compared to single class by about 10-15% + 2 Tiers of end game abilities), however Rangers has nothing of value at highest ability tier and they dont have many abilities affected by PL so Multiclass with Rogue/Cipher/Paladin/Chanter is good idea.

There is a ranger companion that is actually good in combat since it has unique Subclass only available to that companion or via MOD

 

[Gibson]

thank for help; so no ranger for me.
savage dwarf it is, bleakwalker seems nice so I'll prolly multiclass it.

 

[Quillon]

pillow's future will be decided after deadfire too comes to GP then they'll look at the reception

 

[gestalt11]

Just do Potd, game's pretty easy overall

do I get a decent ranged companion? if yes then I don't really need to be one.

MAIA is probably the most VIABLE companion in general, so yes.

if not a ranger, what's the class for a savage dwarf - how easy it is to fuck up a multiclass build

You literally can not fuck up with multiclassing in this game, regardless of what combo you pick, thanks to sawyer's autism

Except that certain interactions are stupidly OP, i.e. all the Ultimate guys use priest + resource renewal for the indefinite invincibility. So while yeah you probably can't fuck up too badly and should be able to win the game there are still radical power differences. There are no bad builds but some builds are more equal than others. Sawyerism is this game is Animal Farm style "balance".

 

[gestalt11]

thank for help; so no ranger for me.
savage dwarf it is, bleakwalker seems nice so I'll prolly multiclass it.

There are reasons to take ranger, but you need to know what you are doing. The pet is like the opposite of Kingmaker, you gotta really try to make it useful but some Ranger passives are VERY strong ranged and cannot be duplicated elsewhere. Some classes you take for actives some you take for passives, or some combo.

 

[gestalt11]

Ultimate in this game is a joke, there's probably no way to win it without Priest and Brilliant inspiration due to the challenges being so shit. And I'd say Magran and Hylea are the culprits, both are absolutely retarded for the way this game is made.

In general almost all game challenges like this are kind of cheesy/gamey. Try winning TOME 4 on madness difficulty. I did it and it was just dumb in many ways. Of course DarkGod never claimed it was balanced, indeed he said it was stupidly unbalanced and he only added it in for the super hardcore people to have something to bang their heads against.

 

[Lacrymas]

Hylea and Magran's challenges are much more than unbalanced, though, they are ridiculously inappropriate and as if not made for this game. ToME4's madness is just the numbers turned up to eleven, meaning you have to turn your own numbers up to eleven to win, while you have to literally ignore the mechanics of PoE2 and its challenges by combining Priest + Brilliant inspiration to win. It doesn't make design sense, or any kind of sense. It was infinitesimally close to being impossible due to the very nature of the challenges being outside of the normal internal machinations. I'm surprised Josh went along with it, it's an absolute logical nightmare.

 

[gestalt11]

Hylea and Magran's challenges are much more than unbalanced, though, they are ridiculously inappropriate and as if not made for this game. ToME4's madness is just the numbers turned up to eleven, meaning you have to turn your own numbers up to eleven to win, while you have to literally ignore the mechanics of PoE2 and its challenges by combining Priest + Brilliant inspiration to win. It doesn't make design sense, or any kind of sense. It was infinitesimally close to being impossible due to the very nature of the challenges being outside of the normal internal machinations. I'm surprised Josh went along with it, it's an absolute logical nightmare.

Turning the entire game into an escort quest seems like an insanely sadistic thing to do.

 

[Lacrymas]

It's not, it just requires a specific class to make it all go away because the game isn't designed around it. If it was, a lot of classes would've had a way to protect her.

 

[Butter]

Can you control and her and move her away from the fighting or does she just dumbfuck in?

 

[Tenebris]

Can you control and her and move her away from the fighting or does she just dumbfuck in?

You can't control her. She sort of runs away but it's not enough.

 

[Tigranes]

Escort missions have been consistently retarded in every single RPG. They are always, always, always, shit.

"Oh hey, let's make a challenge where the entire fucking game is an escort mission!!!"

 

[Quillon]

The whole 11-12 different challenges stuff is dumb af. This is not a game to be replayed that many times to experience even a few of the different challenges. Instead they shoulda made a consolidated & d challenge and leave the autistic challenges to achievements shit.

 

[gestalt11]

Can you control and her and move her away from the fighting or does she just dumbfuck in?

You can't control her. She sort of runs away but it's not enough.

She's a dumb fuck chicken. You basically need to use some cheese strats to park her off away from things. You can't control her but you can manipulate the AI some.

 

[Atchodas]

"Oh hey, let's make a challenge where the entire fucking game is an escort mission!!!"

Well they made a game where every single quest is a fetch quest, so they probably thought escort challenge will be an upgrade to overall quality

 

[Orma]

 

[Quillon]

That sounds retadred.

 

[Butter]

I've got a solution to semi-randomized loot. Don't do it.

 

[Atchodas]

That sounds retadred.

Well it is evident from shit Sawyer posts that they are retarded indeed.

He also said "so yes its literally kinda random" when its literally not random since the loot is fixed on certain days

I think at this point Decline of OBS and Sawyer is undeniable, I know for a fact I will never pay money for their game again

 

[Verylittlefishes]

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[Verylittlefishes]

Hi guys!!!!!!!! HOW ARE YOU FEEEEEELING TODAY??????????

let's play my favourite gaem of all time

happy holidayz

is it...is it Cthulhu sleeping under the snow?
I will never fucking forgive you, Obsidian, for not having a Kraken EVEN IN FUCKING DLC. this. shit. is. on. the. loading. screen.