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Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

Yosharian

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Gloves Of The Dungeon Warden, Helm of the White Void
 

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We tend to shit on both Josh and Pillars a lot (justifiably so), but I gotta admit those retarded challenge runs that require the cheese to be overflowing is Pillars at its best.
On those grounds, both Pillars ain't half bad games tbh.
 

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Guys, I'm trying to do the quest the last sanctuary. I need disks before opening the puzzle. In all of my previous runs, I had the disks. This time, I don't. I'm trying to google the disc location but only comes stupid "how to solve the puzzle" not where to find the disks. Where I can find the disk?

Edit : nevermind. After walking 3 times around found.
 

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I've finished my playthrough recently, and for something that I got 90% off on sale, Deadfire was pretty good. Plot and companions sucked even more than in first game, but combat and character building (including itemization) were way ahead, I especially liked custom AI scripting so I don't have to micromanage every action beyond ones I cared the most (manually aiming party unfriendly spells and summons + getting best out of Beguiler's abilities). Ukaizo was barely a location (really, 2 mediocre fights for the whole endgame climax?), but DLC was good, aside from SSS fetch quests. It's a shame we're getting Avowed instead of proper isometric sequel to Deadfire, I'd even settle for dungeon crawl with minimal plot and dialogue (not that nu-Obsidian has any good writers left).
 

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I've finished my playthrough recently, and for something that I got 90% off on sale, Deadfire was pretty good. Plot and companions sucked even more than in first game, but combat and character building (including itemization) were way ahead, I especially liked custom AI scripting so I don't have to micromanage every action beyond ones I cared the most (manually aiming party unfriendly spells and summons + getting best out of Beguiler's abilities). Ukaizo was barely a location (really, 2 mediocre fights for the whole endgame climax?), but DLC was good, aside from SSS fetch quests. It's a shame we're getting Avowed instead of proper isometric sequel to Deadfire, I'd even settle for dungeon crawl with minimal plot and dialogue (not that nu-Obsidian has any good writers left).
I haven't had the fight with the Guardian of Ukaizo because my previous choices helped me with that but, yeah, that would have been a good last fight.
 

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Guys, my lv 13 psion with 67 accuracy for disintegration managed to miss 7 times in a row. I had a unlucky streak or this is normal in Path of the dammed? Was in watershaper guild.
 

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Guys, my lv 13 psion with 67 accuracy for disintegration managed to miss 7 times in a row. I had a unlucky streak or this is normal in Path of the dammed? Was in watershaper guild.
For what I can remember, never had such a series of misses. And I was playing with PotD too.

Any mod installed?
 

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The challenges are mostly gimmicky, though, or don't do as much as they could. The only straightforward one is Galawain, everything else ranges from meh to pointless.
 

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The challenges are mostly gimmicky, though, or don't do as much as they could. The only straightforward one is Galawain, everything else ranges from meh to pointless.
It's cool that they exist as flavor options, and you can customize your playthrough with them (compare that to, for example, Outer Worlds Supernova difficulty, which tacks a bunch of things on with no customization options). However, even cumulatively, they don't increase the difficulty all that much compared to Triple Crown Solo.
 

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Any mod installed?

Nope.
Umm hate to break it to you but that's not a very good accuracy stat

How I can buff it more?

I respected, and now using Borrowed Instinct am hitting almost every time.

I assumed that +1 accuracy was +1% to hit. If I knew that is +5% I would have maxed per. But now, I will see how far I can get in PotD with a subpar char.
 

Desiderius

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Any mod installed?

Nope.
Umm hate to break it to you but that's not a very good accuracy stat

How I can buff it more?

I respected, and now using Borrowed Instinct am hitting almost every time.

I assumed that +1 accuracy was +1% to hit. If I knew that is +5% I would have maxed per. But now, I will see how far I can get in PotD with a subpar char.
PER doesn’t do all that much.

Dire Blessing, attacking weak saves, debuffs, equipment, the usual do a lot more.
 

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PER doesn’t do all that much.

Dire Blessing, attacking weak saves, debuffs, equipment, the usual do a lot more.
Disagreed. I assumed that 1 accuracy = +1% or 2% to hit. Merely eating cheap food that gives +2 perception. Meaning that if against an enemy you have a 5% crit chance, you now have 15%. If you have merely 10% to hit an enemy, now you have 20%. The difference between someone with 13 PER and someone with a racial + culture + blessing bonus and 23 PER is astonishing. The 13 per guy can have 10% chance to hit a enemy ie - one in ten and the 23 guy can have 60% ie - more than half.

Sure, it is not as astonishing as Borrowed Instinct buff/debuff. Even when it "greases," it transforms an enemy with 42% to hit into 92%. Each point in perception is like +1 AB in 3.5e.
 

Desiderius

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PER doesn’t do all that much.

Dire Blessing, attacking weak saves, debuffs, equipment, the usual do a lot more.
Disagreed. I assumed that 1 accuracy = +1% or 2% to hit. Merely eating cheap food that gives +2 perception. Meaning that if against an enemy you have a 5% crit chance, you now have 15%. If you have merely 10% to hit an enemy, now you have 20%. The difference between someone with 13 PER and someone with a racial + culture + blessing bonus and 23 PER is astonishing. The 13 per guy can have 10% chance to hit a enemy ie - one in ten and the 23 guy can have 60% ie - more than half.

Sure, it is not as astonishing as Borrowed Instinct buff/debuff. Even when it "greases," it transforms an enemy with 42% to hit into 92%. Each point in perception is like +1 AB in 3.5e.

Uh, no. There's a D100 roll with ACC - defense added.

0 - 24: Miss
25-49: Graze
50-100: Hit
> 100: Crit

There are also a lot of effects that can upgrade one category to the next, but not many for Psion so yeah make use of Food, Drugs, Items, Buffs and everything else at your disposal.

Most of you spells target Will so you're usually better off debuffing melee dudes with those. Tenuous Grasp can lower Will for subsequent Spells as can the Club modal (good Club for sale in first town).

PER is in fact just giving you a 1% boost on that scale.
 

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PER doesn’t do all that much.

Dire Blessing, attacking weak saves, debuffs, equipment, the usual do a lot more.
Disagreed. I assumed that 1 accuracy = +1% or 2% to hit. Merely eating cheap food that gives +2 perception. Meaning that if against an enemy you have a 5% crit chance, you now have 15%. If you have merely 10% to hit an enemy, now you have 20%. The difference between someone with 13 PER and someone with a racial + culture + blessing bonus and 23 PER is astonishing. The 13 per guy can have 10% chance to hit a enemy ie - one in ten and the 23 guy can have 60% ie - more than half.

Sure, it is not as astonishing as Borrowed Instinct buff/debuff. Even when it "greases," it transforms an enemy with 42% to hit into 92%. Each point in perception is like +1 AB in 3.5e.

Uh, no. There's a D100 roll with ACC - defense added.

0 - 24: Miss
25-49: Graze
50-100: Hit
> 100: Crit

There are also a lot of effects that can upgrade one category to the next, but not many for Psion so yeah make use of Food, Drugs, Items, Buffs and everything else at your disposal.

Most of you spells target Will so you're usually better off debuffing melee dudes with those. Tenuous Grasp can lower Will for subsequent Spells as can the Club modal (good Club for sale in first town).

PER is in fact just giving you a 1% boost on that scale.

Was chatgpt who gave me the wrong info. I checked in the wiki. You are right, buffs and debuffs matter much more. Either way, this guy doing the ultimate challenge maxed per.

 

Yosharian

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PER doesn’t do all that much.

Dire Blessing, attacking weak saves, debuffs, equipment, the usual do a lot more.
Disagreed. I assumed that 1 accuracy = +1% or 2% to hit. Merely eating cheap food that gives +2 perception. Meaning that if against an enemy you have a 5% crit chance, you now have 15%. If you have merely 10% to hit an enemy, now you have 20%. The difference between someone with 13 PER and someone with a racial + culture + blessing bonus and 23 PER is astonishing. The 13 per guy can have 10% chance to hit a enemy ie - one in ten and the 23 guy can have 60% ie - more than half.

Sure, it is not as astonishing as Borrowed Instinct buff/debuff. Even when it "greases," it transforms an enemy with 42% to hit into 92%. Each point in perception is like +1 AB in 3.5e.
PER is probably the most important stat for most characters
 

Desiderius

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PER doesn’t do all that much.

Dire Blessing, attacking weak saves, debuffs, equipment, the usual do a lot more.
Disagreed. I assumed that 1 accuracy = +1% or 2% to hit. Merely eating cheap food that gives +2 perception. Meaning that if against an enemy you have a 5% crit chance, you now have 15%. If you have merely 10% to hit an enemy, now you have 20%. The difference between someone with 13 PER and someone with a racial + culture + blessing bonus and 23 PER is astonishing. The 13 per guy can have 10% chance to hit a enemy ie - one in ten and the 23 guy can have 60% ie - more than half.

Sure, it is not as astonishing as Borrowed Instinct buff/debuff. Even when it "greases," it transforms an enemy with 42% to hit into 92%. Each point in perception is like +1 AB in 3.5e.

Uh, no. There's a D100 roll with ACC - defense added.

0 - 24: Miss
25-49: Graze
50-100: Hit
> 100: Crit

There are also a lot of effects that can upgrade one category to the next, but not many for Psion so yeah make use of Food, Drugs, Items, Buffs and everything else at your disposal.

Most of you spells target Will so you're usually better off debuffing melee dudes with those. Tenuous Grasp can lower Will for subsequent Spells as can the Club modal (good Club for sale in first town).

PER is in fact just giving you a 1% boost on that scale.

Was chatgpt who gave me the wrong info. I checked in the wiki. You are right, buffs and debuffs matter much more. Either way, this guy doing the ultimate challenge maxed per.


That’s because he doesn’t have four other buffers/debuffers lol. I like decent PER on MC just because I hate to miss hidden stuff.
 

Yosharian

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Any mod installed?

Nope.
Umm hate to break it to you but that's not a very good accuracy stat

How I can buff it more?

I respected, and now using Borrowed Instinct am hitting almost every time.

I assumed that +1 accuracy was +1% to hit. If I knew that is +5% I would have maxed per. But now, I will see how far I can get in PotD with a subpar char.
To be honest the biggest increase to accuracy is level so you might just need to level up a bit

Potd is a bit like that
 

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Was chatgpt who gave me the wrong info. I checked in the wiki. You are right, buffs and debuffs matter much more. Either way, this guy doing the ultimate challenge maxed per.
Wiki? chatGPT?
Are you brain damaged?

On the char creation screen you literally can see the effect of each attribute on derivative stats (e.g. PER = +1 acc).
On top of that, on char screen when you hover on accuracy it shows you all the contributing bonuses from gear/class/attributes/etc, where you also see that point of PER translates to +1 acc

Checking game mechanics on chatgpt instead of in game itself is some highe level of retardation.
Dude, this game is no 4D chess, everything can be figured out during first 30 mins.
 
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Was chatgpt who gave me the wrong info. I checked in the wiki. You are right, buffs and debuffs matter much more. Either way, this guy doing the ultimate challenge maxed per.
Wiki? chatGPT?
Are you brain damaged?

On the char creation screen you literally can see the effect of each attribute on derivative stats (e.g. PER = +1 acc).
On top of that, on char screen when you hover on accuracy it shows you all the contributing bonuses from gear/class/attributes/etc, where you also see that point of PER translates to +1 acc

Checking game mechanics on chatgpt instead of in game itself is some highe level of retardation.
Dude, this game is no 4D chess, everything can be figured out during first 30 mins.

RTFM being replaced by ATFCB* is a sign of the apocalypse.

* Ask the freakin' chat bot
 

Piotrovitz

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It's even worse than that, as most of crpgs now have dozens of tooltips, making any manuals obsolete.

Hell, single look at Deadfire's combat log shows you literally all you need to know about the system - hit rolls, dmg calculation, etc

And dude had to consult chatgpt, this is just fucking depressing.
 

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