Pillars of Eternity Beta Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Sensuki]

The narration isn't very good either. Let me find the file ...

This is from the Prologue which we saw in the E3 Demo

http://www.upload.ee/files/4241689/07_cv_prologue__7982.rar.html

 

[Duraframe300]

There really is no excuse for having sub-par voicing in this game, when BGII was able to produce consistently awesome VA 14 fucking years ago. No excuse.

Wut?

I doubt Obsidian has the resources in that department that Interplay did 14 years ago. Nobody really does anymore. Also how is VA of all things dependant on time (Apart from audio quality)?

 

[Semper]

There really is no excuse for having sub-par voicing in this game, when BGII was able to produce consistently awesome VA 14 fucking years ago. No excuse.

you ever heared daddy mumbling about life getting more expensive every year? you should take notice.

 

[Hormalakh]

The narration isn't very good either. Let me find the file ...

This is from the Prologue which we saw in the E3 Demo

http://www.upload.ee/files/4241689/07_cv_prologue__7982.rar.html

this isn't as bad. at least he is trying.

 

[Sensuki]

Yeah well I *think* that's actually final. Unfortunately it's not as good as any of the past IE games narrators.

 

[Morgoth]

WHO GIVES A FUCK MAYBE WANNA HAVE PATRICK STEWART IN TOO????

 

[Duraframe300]

Even if that too isn't final anyone who expects the VA quality of black isle games expects a bit too much.

Among games those were like god tier.

 

[Hormalakh]

of course not. obsidian has to cut corners somewhere. of course, for POE this means cutting things out in game design (how to grapple ooze?), music, voice acting, and animations.

everything we bitch about, either we're expecting too much or we'll have to wait because it's a fucking beta.

please let me know when i can starting bitching about how i think this game will not hit any IE standards. Thanks,

 

[Sensuki]

WHO GIVES A FUCK MAYBE WANNA HAVE PATRICK STEWART IN TOO????

 

[Jedi Exile]

Cadegund was cut? Come on, this is disappointing. Or maybe they are saving her for the expansion.

 

[Duraframe300]

of course not. obsidian has to cut corners somewhere. of course, for POE this means cutting things out in game design (how to grapple ooze?), music, voice acting, and animations.

everything we bitch about, either we're expecting too much or we'll have to wait because it's a fucking beta.

please let me know when i can starting bitching about how i think this game will not hit any IE standards. Thanks,

You can bitch anytime. Especially about game design/animations/voice acting and music. I bitched about the voice acting already (Which is would be my main source of disapointment if it stays that way)

When I talk about don't overexpect I actually mean don't overexpect.

As in: Don't expect it to beat everything else ever made ever. Thats not a discouragement to bitch about things, thats a tipp for your enjoyment. Otherwise you're just getting yourself riled up and super angry about things that weren't going to happen either way.

It's the reason why I'm still very much looking forward to the game. Otherwise I'd be hatin'.

(And I don't really think (in the comparison I made) cutting corners has anything to do with it. The casts for the old Black Isle games were just that insane.)

 

[Shadenuat]

I feel that for isometric game doing sound&music right is important, a lot more important than for a game that can grab you with just visuals. Everything from UI to random NPC barks and music should click.

Just try running through a few vaults in Fallout 1 without music, see how much it adds to experience. In 3d you can often subtitute with just some ambiance and neat graffixx.

 

[tuluse]

I like the music in PoE. It is very low key and subtle compared to the IE games though (or at least BG and PST).

The ambient sounds are great, takes me back to 1998.

 

[Decado]

Yep.

There really is no excuse for having sub-par voicing in this game, when BGII was able to produce consistently awesome VA 14 fucking years ago. No excuse.

I'd argue it's probably harder to get good VO for games these days because of how expensive it has become.

The flipside to this is that in 2014, it is (or at least, should be!) much easier to find newcomer talent. We have youtube and the panoply of social media out there, plus a modding community that dwarfs the one that existed in 2000, plus a booming indie game scene. Really, there is no excuse imo.

 

[Duraframe300]

Yep.

There really is no excuse for having sub-par voicing in this game, when BGII was able to produce consistently awesome VA 14 fucking years ago. No excuse.

I'd argue it's probably harder to get good VO for games these days because of how expensive it has become.

The flipside to this is that in 2014, it is (or at least, should be!) much easier to find newcomer talent. We have youtube and the panoply of social media out there, plus a modding community that dwarfs the one that existed in 2000, plus a booming indie game scene. Really, there is no excuse imo.

The IE games (Black Isle games specifically) weren't much about Newcomer talent though. A lot of them were high class actors.

 

[The Fish]

Here's Pallegina's full voice set if you want to have a listen: http://www.upload.ee/files/4240874/AudioClip.rar.html

Dreadful. I thought "Vailians" were based on Italians (or something like that). Why not give her a European accent? I remember Edwin in BG2 having a Bulgarian/Slavic sort of accent and it worked pretty well. The more generic modern American accent is really jarring. And it doesn't help that the lines are delivered quite poorly. They should have had David Warner as a stretch goal.

The Banner Saga didn't have an enormous budget either but they still managed to get some Icelandic people to do the voices. In fact I would hazard a guess and say it was probably a cheaper option despite being of a better quality and more fitting.

I'll probably end up turning off voices for the full game (or just kill her).

 

[Bubbles]

Even a terrible actress couldn't do much to butcher these lines:

Keep me here much longer, and I'm going to start moulting. It's even less exciting than it sounds.

I could assume you're wasting my time, but I'd like to believe you're simply holding me in reserve for some cunning stratagem.

For the republics!

Ack! I'm on the vanguard!

If those first two are the dismiss/"talk to but don't hire" lines, they are way too long.

 

[Sordid MCA/Prosper Hybryd]

Can someone do me a favor and ask Josh on Twitter for the PE Recovery time formula. I *think* armor is multiplicative but I want to get the 100% - ie. (Recovery time * armor speed) and I'm not sure when other bonuses are added.

Could be (Base Recovery * Armor Speed) + (Weapon style + Miscellaneous), but that's just a guess

I need this answer for my next suggestion thread

https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/506853358557462530

 

[Harold]

Even a terrible actress couldn't do much to butcher these lines:

Keep me here much longer, and I'm going to start moulting. It's even less exciting than it sounds.

I could assume you're wasting my time, but I'd like to believe you're simply holding me in reserve for some cunning stratagem.

For the republics!

Ack! I'm on the vanguard!

If those first two are the dismiss/"talk to but don't hire" lines, they are way too long.

The second line definitely seems to be a 'dismiss' one, but the first one is for when the character is idle for too long, I think.

 

[MicoSelva]

This is a *much* more detailed answer than we could have hoped for. Thank you, JES.

 

[tuluse]

Even a terrible actress couldn't do much to butcher these lines:

Keep me here much longer, and I'm going to start moulting. It's even less exciting than it sounds.

I could assume you're wasting my time, but I'd like to believe you're simply holding me in reserve for some cunning stratagem.

For the republics!

Ack! I'm on the vanguard!

If those first two are the dismiss/"talk to but don't hire" lines, they are way too long.

The second line definitely seems to be a 'dismiss' one, but the first one is for when the character is idle for too long, I think.

2nd one is probably "stay at the stronghold" line.

 

[Sensuki]

Does that look balanced to you?

2H weapon attacks faster than 1H weapon and does like double the damage ... lol

 

[Grunker]

urgh, dat pallegina voice

 

[MicoSelva]

Does that look balanced to you?

2H weapon attacks faster than 1H weapon and does like double the damage ... lol

1H gives you more deflection (from shield) or more accuracy (=more damage), although the indirect bonus damage from +15 accuracy is negligible compared to what you get after switching to 2H.

I am guessing the numbers will still be tweaked, but 1H with no shield is pretty much useless at the moment. Bonus deflection from shield is arguable IMO. 2x 1H faster attack is ok.

 

[Duraframe300]

urgh, dat pallegina voice

Adam confirmed that the VO is placeholder.

Surprisingly Pallegina was not Meghan btw.