Eternity Pillars of Eternity + The White March Expansion Thread

[mediocrepoet]

Who fucking plays POE for the writing?

Kek. You have my condolences if you play this for the combat.

Your family has mine if you play this for the writing. You probably eat cardboard for fun too.

 

[chuft]

He's got the point though, if anything, the major criticism throughout the years was how combat and itemization have been so oversawyered the builds barely matter.

Well, every time I complained about the difficulty, it was "what is your party build?" "is your party totally optimized to do a, b and c" "always put points into this, and never into this" and on and on.

I actually played the game on Normal for awhile since I was completely unfamiliar with MMO-style combat (tank/healer/DPS), per-combat abilities, attacks of opportunity + the lack of a five foot step, and real time not using rounds, where one character could go more times than another in the same span of time.

Once I got going it was too easy and I switched it to Hard, which seemed right. So for the base game it may be true the builds don't matter so much.

Then I hit WM1, and it went downhill fast. I eventually stopped playing and restarted months later when I heard about the IE mod. Then I stopped playing it for some reason to try Deadfire with turn-based, and loved it. I did not try it again until after I finished Deadfire but it looks like I only have one save from then, didn't do much. Probably stopped for whatever reason made me stop the first time. I can see I really started playing Warhammer 40K Gladius and Age of Wonders Planetfall after that. But it's still installed, with IE mod, so I might try to pick it back up.

 

[chuft]

Just saw a Steam review for something called Last Epoch which said "its like poe but you can play it without google and spreadsheets"

 

[mediocrepoet]

Just saw a Steam review for something called Last Epoch which said "its like poe but you can play it without google and spreadsheets"

They're talking about Path of Exile. ... Can't tell if you're serious or trolling now.

 

[The Limper]

Who fucking plays POE for the writing?

Kek. You have my condolences if you play this for the combat.

Your family has mine if you play this for the writing. You probably eat cardboard for fun too.

Off topic - anyone else think Little Caeser’s pizza taste worse than cardboard?

 

[Fedora Master]

I can't believe you people are still beating this dead horse.

 

[chuft]

Just saw a Steam review for something called Last Epoch which said "its like poe but you can play it without google and spreadsheets"

They're talking about Path of Exile. ... Can't tell if you're serious or trolling now.

I've never heard of either game so you could well be right. Good to know there's another "POE" out there.

Anyway this is the Codex, is there really a difference between a serious post and trolling.

 

[AwesomeButton]

And yet the 2nd ed. DnD games had very primitive systems, outside of caster characters. The spellcasting systems were admittedly great. But all the other classes - just sad. Point and clik. Or worse yet, kite.
Also next to no choice in character building: max your casting or damage stat, that's it!

PoE is so much better then this. As well as 3rd+ ed. and Pathfinder games...

Even though that's true (the systems are not complex), the IE games' thrill of "little paperdolls swinging at each other" and "whether or not yours gets hit, or hits respectively", is more fun than PoE's combat. One is like watching a slot machine roll, the other is an exercise in matching attack damage type vs defense type.

Slot machines and color matching - which is for grown ups and which is for children?

 

[Haplo]

And yet the 2nd ed. DnD games had very primitive systems, outside of caster characters. The spellcasting systems were admittedly great. But all the other classes - just sad. Point and clik. Or worse yet, kite.
Also next to no choice in character building: max your casting or damage stat, that's it!

PoE is so much better then this. As well as 3rd+ ed. and Pathfinder games...

Slot machines and color matching - which is for grown ups and which is for children?

Excel sheets are for grown ups IMO.

 

[AwesomeButton]

And yet the 2nd ed. DnD games had very primitive systems, outside of caster characters. The spellcasting systems were admittedly great. But all the other classes - just sad. Point and clik. Or worse yet, kite.
Also next to no choice in character building: max your casting or damage stat, that's it!

PoE is so much better then this. As well as 3rd+ ed. and Pathfinder games...

Slot machines and color matching - which is for grown ups and which is for children?

Excel sheets are for grown ups IMO.

Probably, for grown ups who come home from work to play games about color matching, for "fun".

 

[MajorMace]

Greetings,
I feel like replaying PoEI and figured a six-X party would be a nice change (X being a given class).
What are some of the most interesting six-X combinations ? I'd preferably not have to spam figurine-summons every fight but if it is what it is, then it is.

edit : btw I intend to play on hard, not potd.

 

[Tygrende]

Greetings,
I feel like replaying PoEI and figured a six-X party would be a nice change (X being a given class).
What are some of the most interesting six-X combinations ? I'd preferably not have to spam figurine-summons every fight but if it is what it is, then it is.

edit : btw I intend to play on hard, not potd.

Six rangers, all with the same pets.

 

[Lacrymas]

edit : btw I intend to play on hard, not potd.

In this context, nothing really matters, go with whatever you want.

 

[MajorMace]

Sweet.
Anyway I cautiously went for six wizards. Hard/Expert/Ironman.
Let's see how many of them bite the dust and when and where I fall myself.
Rolled a moon godlike for extra copium.

I suspect I'll die as soon as I stumble upon firearm-weilding scoundrels but who knows ?

 

[Lacrymas]

Six wizards are going to destroy everything.

 

[0sacred]

To me fantasy is about magic. If I don't want magic I play a game in a magic free setting like Fallout. I don't really care about mundane characters in a fantasy setting. They are the supporting cast for the spellcasters, like grogs in Ars Magica. That's all. Swords and shields are not supposed to have a hundred options. You block or you swing.

intricate swordplay ftw. I dislike AoD but the combat options are nice.

anime-looking whirlwind attacks and similar need to die in a fire. This shit goes back to, what, Diablo 2?

 

[Lacrymas]

Oh, that's brilliant. Spellcasters being the main focus is like the opposite of what Tolkien wanted!

 

[chuft]

The book is literally named after a spellcaster.

 

[Lacrymas]

The main antagonist being a spellcaster should tell you something. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But either way, Tolkien is famously against the protagonists relying on magic or Gandalf (that's why he isn't there most of the time).

 

[ferratilis]

Greetings,
I feel like replaying PoEI and figured a six-X party would be a nice change (X being a given class).
What are some of the most interesting six-X combinations ? I'd preferably not have to spam figurine-summons every fight but if it is what it is, then it is.

edit : btw I intend to play on hard, not potd.

There's only one answer:

 

[chuft]

In any case modern fantasy and CRPGs are much more heavily based on Jack Vance and not Tolkien. Vance's Dying Earth setting, like Harry Potter's Wizarding World, makes for a much more magical and thus better game setting than Tolkien's. More spells, more magic items, more monsters, more everything that is fun. I love LotR but consider it an anemic setting for fantasy gaming due to the tiny bestiary and general lack of tactical magic.

 

[0sacred]

ICE would like to have a word with you

 

[chuft]

I used to own the ICE ME:TW CCG. Sold it due to the extremely anemic bestiary. How many phrases for "orc" can we come up with.

 

[S.torch]

In any case modern fantasy and CRPGs are much more heavily based on Jack Vance and not Tolkien. Vance's Dying Earth setting, like Harry Potter's Wizarding World, makes for a much more magical and thus better game setting than Tolkien's. More spells, more magic items, more monsters, more everything that is fun. I love LotR but consider it an anemic setting for fantasy gaming due to the tiny bestiary and general lack of tactical magic.

Everything you said is incorrect.

 

[muckguppy]

Finally got bored enough to tackle this again after many years absence (and disappointments originally). I figured fuck it I'll just roll through it, went with a simple fat nature godlike monk called daisy. Max str might and dex, fuck the rest because I don't care I'm playing normal. Somehow defeated the first boss in act 1… Restartitis. Enjoyed act 2. Act 3 rushed it. The rest was a blur.

The twist was gay. Hurr durr gods aren't real but.. but we imagined them so they are real!

Fuck this game.

Shit.

I'm replaying thru on potd with an Orlan cypher now