Eternity Pillars of Eternity + The White March Expansion Thread

[Excidium II]

I hope "revised" means "removed entirely." Fatigue is so cargo cult.

What's the problem with fatigue? Often times it was the only thing forcing me to stop and rest.

Main thing that sucked about it is that it forced everyone to get 3 points in Athletics, but they're getting rid of that.

 

[Fairfax]

Fixed an issue that would break game progression after talking to Maerwald.

7 months late, but good to know new players won't have the same infuriating problem I had (twice).4

Also, changes to the Fighter miss the point completely and are worthless.

 

[Roguey]

Finished The Ratcatcher. Style felt very amateurish, and the story didn't have a point. Sagani decides to get involved in a thing because she's bored/curious/can't sleep, but ultimately it doesn't matter.

What's the problem with fatigue? Often times it was the only thing forcing me to stop and rest.

It doesn't serve any gameplay purpose, just some annoying pseudo-sim thing.

 

[Sensuki]

I agree that the Fatigue system sucks shit.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Actually these TWM2 changes sound pretty good.
- The Stronghold stuff: a nice try but too late for that
- Changes to Athletics and Survival seem pretty interesting, although as always, the only thing that prohibits you from resting abuse is if you feel too lazy to go back to an inn.
- Knockouts being more important: nice, but who cares if you can abuse resting? I wish for an option where I can set my health to decrease faster so that even if at full health - 0 Endurance means 0 Health. I just want to try the game with Health eliminated.
- Late-game tuning: only matters to people ready to wait until TWM2's release to play the game.

I wonder if TWM2 will also be the last PoE patch.

 

[prodigydancer]

Also, changes to the Fighter miss the point completely and are worthless.

Impenetrable tanks are history but +5 Def for free is always good. Damage/accuracy/speed buffs are solid too (esp. Armored Grace). What more do you want?

 

[Pope Amole II]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/82854-update-203-beta-is-live-on-steam/

Fighter changes don't really change anything - they make him a bit sturdier, but he was always nigh-unkillable. And extra damage to the "per encounter" skills is kinda meaningless.

Immunities are insanely impactful, but that needs more investigation.

Per encounter rework is also unpleasant for casters, but it's not as huge as it seems. Generally, I didin't even have the time to use them fully in most battles - even in PoTD, the amount of casts you have naturally is more than enough.

 

[ArchAngel]

So no encounter spells removal?

Also the 3.0 patch sounds too good to start my 2nd play with 2.03. I think I will wait more

 

[Roguey]

I wonder if TWM2 will also be the last PoE patch.

Obviously they'll have to fix the things they break for a few months, but after that I imagine they'll be devoting everything to Pillars 2/something else.

 

[Irenaeus II]

It doesn't serve any gameplay purpose, just some annoying pseudo-sim thing.

False, it makes your chars weaker and make you need to rest. You are annoyed because you want an easier game.

 

[Sannom]

I wouldn't be opposed to a fatigue/knockdown system which makes the characters slow to a painful crawl after too much time/too many injuries. It feels like a good incentive to make people rest in the wild rather than in taverns when the effects hit.

 

[AwesomeButton]

"The Ratcatcher" is about what I expected. A decent story, average fantasy-level writing. Also, the line "“Don’t try that with us, you lying hut-dweller!”" must have been rehearsed for minutes in front of the mirror before it went into the text. Still miles ahead of Gaider's drivel, so it could be a lot worse.

 

[Irenaeus II]

Wait, it's audio?

 

[AwesomeButton]

No, it's just a thing junior authors do - pronounce the lines, play out the scenes. It results in things that looked and sounded great in your head, but read cheesy.

 

[Irenaeus II]

Not in the mood for cheese?

Wait, wrong game

 

[ArchAngel]

I wouldn't be opposed to a fatigue/knockdown system which makes the characters slow to a painful crawl after too much time/too many injuries. It feels like a good incentive to make people rest in the wild rather than in taverns when the effects hit.

It also makes for a good way for people to uninstall the game once they run out of supply packs and need to go back at that speed...

 

[Irenaeus II]

Good. Fucking. Riddance.

 

[Fairfax]

Impenetrable tanks are history but +5 Def for free is always good. Damage/accuracy/speed buffs are solid too (esp. Armored Grace). What more do you want?

The impenetrable Fighter tank was useful and a good addition to any party. The current Fighter is just boring and weak, worse than any other tank, and worse than every DD as well. If they can't make him useful, at least make him interesting to play during combat, but that would require reworking the entire class, and I doubt it'll happen even for PoE 2.

 

[ArchAngel]

The impenetrable Fighter tank was useful and a good addition to any party. The current Fighter is just boring and weak, worse than any other tank, and worse than every DD as well. If they can't make him useful, at least make him interesting to play during combat, but that would require reworking the entire class, and I doubt it'll happen even for PoE 2.

1. Install mod for Poe
2. Turn off engagement system
3. ???
4. Win.

 

[Infinitron]

Adam Brennecke spoke at a Unity conference in Melbourne the other day:

 

[Fairfax]

Yeah, guess they're doubling down on Unity.

1. Install mod for Poe
2. Turn off engagement system
3. ???
4. Win.

That won't make the Fighter any less boring.

 

[Irenaeus II]

Fighters are never boring.

 

[Excidium II]

Why would you make a fighter when eder already exists.

 

[Fairfax]

Why would you make a fighter when eder already exists.

Worked fine for me pre-2.0. Eder's build was not minmaxed for a tank Fighter, so I made one myself. Now any Fighter in the party is pointless.

 

[Irenaeus II]

I'll beat the game with 6 fighters.