Decline PS4 wins the console war against XboxONE, yet it is a hollow victory as Consolesdämmerung is upon us

[Morgoth]

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...ffs-at-sony-london-playstation-san-diego.aspx

"We can confirm there has been a reduction in headcount at San Diego Studio. The teams working on MLB The Show, Drawn to Death and Guns Up! have not been affected. We continually evaluate teams and programs at SIE Worldwide Studios to ensure we have the proper resources in place to deliver innovative products within a competitive landscape. As projects are completed, it is natural to review and restructure teams around current and future needs. We wish our departing team members success as they pursue new opportunities and we have nothing but heart-felt thanks for their contributions to PlayStation."

Gotta love HR speak. Much heart-felt.

"Neeeeeeext!!"

 

[Makabb]

PS 5 in 2nd 2018


http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/analyst-predicts-playstation-5-will-launch-2018/

 

[Morgoth]

Analysts are modern clairvoyants. It's all bullshit.

 

[Kem0sabe]

I don't think we will have a new console anytime soon, they will try to push a long cycle with this refresh, similar to ps3.

 

[GrainWetski]

I expect they'll continue to scam people by releasing moderately more powerful Poo versions every few years.

Playstation 4 Ultra Mega Definitive Poo Remaster Remake in 2022 that will finally support native 4K at 30 FPS.

 

[Makabb]

Sony PS4 pro PR video








learn the new buzzword 'dynamic 4k gaming'

 

[J_C]

learn the new buzzword 'dynamic 4k gaming'

Synonim for "we can't really do 4K gaming, but we will use tricks to make it look like real 4K".

 

[Great Deceiver]

the greatest irony is that that promotion video isn't even at 4k.

 

[sullynathan]

You'd think Sony would actually show their exclusive that is in native 4K.

 

[Kem0sabe]

There's a bunch of games that run at native 4k, without any upscaling... https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4Pro/comments/5bn9oa/ps4_pro_4k_native_games_will_update_the_list/

Anyways, i picked up my PS4 Pro yesterday, and pretty surprised by the build quality and overall experience, played a bit of Uncharted 4, Killzone, Witcher 3 GOTY and Mafia 3.

 

[Theldaran]

A local youtuber made a video openly mocking PS4's publicity. The advertising is full of asterisks explaining the scams, such as "you need a screen capable of the same technology to use HDR or 4K, you dick", "not all videogames for PS4 Pro support 4K or HDR", and so on and so forth.

Oh and by the way, it's the same kind of scam as with the 3DS' 3D, but I don't think anyone sane bought the 3DS for the 3D. It was just Nintendo's gimmick. Sony tries to be dead serious about 4K though.

 

[Kem0sabe]

The console is good value for anyone thinking about getting a PS4, there's no reason to buying vanilla now as for an extra 100€ you get double the HD space, double the GPU power, significantly more processing power and extra RAM.

For 400 euros it's more than worth it for people who enjoy console gaming.

 

[Makabb]

If anyone got a normal ps4, ps4 pro is simply not worth it unless he is filthy rich and got nothing better to do with his life.

If someone doesn't have a console at all and was thinking of buying one, then yes ps4 pro by all means.

 

[Theldaran]

PS4 is nice since it has some weeaboo games not coming out in any other platform. It also shares some weeaboo games with PS Vita, but here you can play on a big screen. That's from my point of view, of course. But it's not limited to that, you also have plenty other genres as well as some epic fails.

Don't forget about the PS4 Slim, that replaces the old vanilla PS4. I guess you can get by with it and play the whole library. True that some games will run better on Pro, but it's not the end of the world.

All of that notwithstanding that the 4K advertising is deliberately misleading, that's what we were dicussing here.

 

[Makabb]

It's still to early for 4k the graphics cards are not powerfull enough and ps4 pro doesn't even have the most powerfull gpu, PS 5 will be native 4k and by that time you will be able to buy a 4k monitor for a normal price

 

[sullynathan]

A local youtuber made a video openly mocking PS4's publicity. The advertising is full of asterisks explaining the scams, such as "you need a screen capable of the same technology to use HDR or 4K, you dick", "not all videogames for PS4 Pro support 4K or HDR", and so on and so forth.

Oh and by the way, it's the same kind of scam as with the 3DS' 3D, but I don't think anyone sane bought the 3DS for the 3D. It was just Nintendo's gimmick. Sony tries to be dead serious about 4K though.

But who buys a 4K console without a 4K TV?

 

[Theldaran]

But who buys a 4K console without a 4K TV?

That's the matter, to put the PS4 Pro to full use you have to spend extra on a new TV, if you're not willing to pay you're not fully using it... anyway we know it's not full-on support, if it was every game would support it, which is also not convenient since it's extra work for the devs.

It's too early for this technology, but Sony is advertising it as a novelty and we still have to see how much support it gets, from the people and from the devs. They're too eager to surpass Microsoft.

 

[Martius]

But who buys a 4K console without a 4K TV?

Some games offer few modes, usually one of them is 1080 and 60 fps. For example Rise of Tomb Raider or Nioh.

 

[Jaedar]

A local youtuber made a video openly mocking PS4's publicity. The advertising is full of asterisks explaining the scams, such as "you need a screen capable of the same technology to use HDR or 4K, you dick", "not all videogames for PS4 Pro support 4K or HDR", and so on and so forth.

Oh and by the way, it's the same kind of scam as with the 3DS' 3D, but I don't think anyone sane bought the 3DS for the 3D. It was just Nintendo's gimmick. Sony tries to be dead serious about 4K though.

But who buys a 4K console without a 4K TV?

Someone who wants 1080p@60fps in their console probably.

 

[Great Deceiver]

DF ran a couple of articles recently listing some games that run worse on the PS4 Pro compared to the regular PS4 on 1080p, because the Pro is downscaling from a higher resolution. They cited Skyrim and The Last of Us as examples.

This whole product seems dumb as shit to me.

 

[Lyric Suite]

I just want 1080p at 60 FPS. That's it. Fuck 4k, fuck everything else. Why is it so hard?

 

[DosBuster]

I just want 1080p at 60 FPS. That's it. Fuck 4k, fuck everything else. Why is it so hard?

4K is very quickly taking over the market in which case Sony and Microsoft have both been forced to create a product that supports 4K, that is why the pro exists.

 

[Makabb]

I just want 1080p at 60 FPS. That's it. Fuck 4k, fuck everything else. Why is it so hard?

4k is teh next logical conclusion in PC vidya graphics evolution so it's inevitable


The evolution of graphics will continue to the point where it will be indistinguishable from reality or when we will not be able to produce hardware capable of better image quality.



In far future expect to be running 50k resolution at 300fps on a tablet.

 

[Declinator]

I just want 1080p at 60 FPS. That's it. Fuck 4k, fuck everything else. Why is it so hard?

4k is teh next logical conclusion in PC vidya graphics evolution so it's inevitable


The evolution of graphics will continue to the point where it will be indistinguishable from reality or when we will not be able to produce hardware capable of better image quality.



In far future expect to be running 50k resolution at 300fps on a tablet.

There would be practically no distinguishable difference beyond something like 8K on pretty much anything except some gigantic IMAX screen and even IMAX/70mm film has a theoretical maximum resolution of about 18K.

 

[Makabb]

I just want 1080p at 60 FPS. That's it. Fuck 4k, fuck everything else. Why is it so hard?

4k is teh next logical conclusion in PC vidya graphics evolution so it's inevitable


The evolution of graphics will continue to the point where it will be indistinguishable from reality or when we will not be able to produce hardware capable of better image quality.



In far future expect to be running 50k resolution at 300fps on a tablet.

There would be practically no distinguishable difference beyond something like 8K on pretty much anything except some gigantic IMAX screen and even IMAX/70mm film has a theoretical maximum resolution of about 18K.

You do know that what pushes graphical quality further is not only resolution but polygon count which makes everything look more natural.