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Decline PS4 wins the console war against XboxONE, yet it is a hollow victory as Consolesdämmerung is upon us

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Dexter, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. Theldaran Arbiter

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    A local youtuber made a video openly mocking PS4's publicity. The advertising is full of asterisks explaining the scams, such as "you need a screen capable of the same technology to use HDR or 4K, you dick", "not all videogames for PS4 Pro support 4K or HDR", and so on and so forth.

    Oh and by the way, it's the same kind of scam as with the 3DS' 3D, but I don't think anyone sane bought the 3DS for the 3D. It was just Nintendo's gimmick. Sony tries to be dead serious about 4K though.
     
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  2. Kem0sabe Arcane

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    The console is good value for anyone thinking about getting a PS4, there's no reason to buying vanilla now as for an extra 100€ you get double the HD space, double the GPU power, significantly more processing power and extra RAM.

    For 400 euros it's more than worth it for people who enjoy console gaming.
     
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  3. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    If anyone got a normal ps4, ps4 pro is simply not worth it unless he is filthy rich and got nothing better to do with his life.

    If someone doesn't have a console at all and was thinking of buying one, then yes ps4 pro by all means.
     
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  4. Theldaran Arbiter

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    PS4 is nice since it has some weeaboo games not coming out in any other platform. It also shares some weeaboo games with PS Vita, but here you can play on a big screen. That's from my point of view, of course. But it's not limited to that, you also have plenty other genres as well as some epic fails.

    Don't forget about the PS4 Slim, that replaces the old vanilla PS4. I guess you can get by with it and play the whole library. True that some games will run better on Pro, but it's not the end of the world.

    All of that notwithstanding that the 4K advertising is deliberately misleading, that's what we were dicussing here.
     
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  5. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    It's still to early for 4k the graphics cards are not powerfull enough and ps4 pro doesn't even have the most powerfull gpu, PS 5 will be native 4k and by that time you will be able to buy a 4k monitor for a normal price
     
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  6. sullynathan Arcane

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    But who buys a 4K console without a 4K TV?
     
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  7. Theldaran Arbiter

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    That's the matter, to put the PS4 Pro to full use you have to spend extra on a new TV, if you're not willing to pay you're not fully using it... anyway we know it's not full-on support, if it was every game would support it, which is also not convenient since it's extra work for the devs.

    It's too early for this technology, but Sony is advertising it as a novelty and we still have to see how much support it gets, from the people and from the devs. They're too eager to surpass Microsoft.
     
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  8. Martius Liturgist

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    Some games offer few modes, usually one of them is 1080 and 60 fps. For example Rise of Tomb Raider or Nioh.
     
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  9. Jaedar Arcane Patron

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    Someone who wants 1080p@60fps in their console probably.
     
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  10. Great Deceiver Arcane

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    DF ran a couple of articles recently listing some games that run worse on the PS4 Pro compared to the regular PS4 on 1080p, because the Pro is downscaling from a higher resolution. They cited Skyrim and The Last of Us as examples.

    This whole product seems dumb as shit to me.
     
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  11. Lyric Suite Converting to Islam

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    I just want 1080p at 60 FPS. That's it. Fuck 4k, fuck everything else. Why is it so hard?
     
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  12. DosBuster Arcane Patron The Real Fanboy

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    4K is very quickly taking over the market in which case Sony and Microsoft have both been forced to create a product that supports 4K, that is why the pro exists.
     
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  13. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    4k is teh next logical conclusion in PC vidya graphics evolution so it's inevitable


    The evolution of graphics will continue to the point where it will be indistinguishable from reality or when we will not be able to produce hardware capable of better image quality.



    In far future expect to be running 50k resolution at 300fps on a tablet.
     
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  14. Declinator Arbiter

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    There would be practically no distinguishable difference beyond something like 8K on pretty much anything except some gigantic IMAX screen and even IMAX/70mm film has a theoretical maximum resolution of about 18K.
     
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  15. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    You do know that what pushes graphical quality further is not only resolution but polygon count which makes everything look more natural.
     
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  16. Kem0sabe Arcane

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    Here´s a couple of videos i did of my uncharted 4 playthrough, the game looks amazing, and more importantly, runs super smooth with absolutely no framerate dips.



     
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  17. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

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  18. nomask7 Arcane

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    Welcome to uncanny valley.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

    The golden age of graphics was back in around 1997.
     
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  19. Tehdagah Arcane

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    Looks normal, Battlefield 1 and Star Wars Battlefront are far more impressive.
     
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  20. sullynathan Arcane

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    UC4 looks better than both of those games
     
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  21. Kem0sabe Arcane

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    The difference being that this runs smoothly on a 300 euro/400 euro for even better visuals, while to get the same fidelity on a pc, you would spend significantly more for a complete machine.
     
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  22. sullynathan Arcane

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    http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2016/161207b.html
     
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  23. Theldaran Arbiter

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    I counted 6 games this Christmas, and one of them is Resident Evil 7.

    The problem has been focusing (or having to focus) on the Playstation VR, theoretically it has been the VR system that has sold better this year, but it doesn't mean it has been a huge success so far. If it bombs it will damage Sony somewhat. Anyway, this Christmas they have focused too much on hardware (also trying to bolster other areas like TVs, with HDR/4K support and whatnot) and there's not much to enjoy on PS4.
     
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  24. Lyric Suite Converting to Islam

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    What fidelity? The game looks like washed out console garbage.
     
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