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Vapourware Realms Beyond: Ashes of the Fallen - Chaos Chronicles reborn and dead again

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Yeah, Hob, do you hear me? Do the sensible thing! Move your entire life to the Balkans for 8 months. :greatjob:

Even better: move to the Balkans forever.

It's genuinely a better place to live than Germany, especially when you work a job that allows for remote work. Lower taxes, lower living costs, higher degree of freedom, healthier culture. There are many reasons to leave the rotting west behind and move to the Balkans.
 

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New Company, which gotta be founded anyway, can legally and physically be in Balkans and Hob can remain in Germany. That arrangement can work too. Iron Tower Studio members all live across the globe. No problem without solution
 

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Just let it die already, FFS.
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New Company, which gotta be founded anyway, can legally and physically be in Balkans and Hob can remain in Germany. That arrangement can work too. Iron Tower Studio members all live across the globe. No problem without solution
You and Hobofuckface should take a long walk off a short cliff, hand in hand. Get out of here with this new gift.
 

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Meanwhile, we have a perfectly good editor in Knights of the Chalice 2, ready for more adventure modules. Customizable, so the developers could import their own maps and assets as needed.
 

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Lol. I haven't talked with guy for 2 years
My only agenda is fore some Incline to happen. That's all
What shall ye say, my fellow ShitLords?
Are we CEO now? Ready for Adventure of Life? YAY or NAY
Count me in. Ready to pledge / become a shareholder.
What shall ye say, my fellow ShitLords?
Are we CEO now? Ready for Adventure of Life? YAY or NAY

I must admit, the thought of this farce continuing to provide drama and butthurt brings me much joy.

Chaos Chronicles, the franchise that refuses to die gracefully.

What shall ye say, my fellow ShitLords?
Are we CEO now? Ready for Adventure of Life? YAY or NAY
Sure we can even give JarlFrank his job back.

Codex funded and managed project, what could possibly go wrong hmmm

Sounds like another exciting chapter in the train wreck that is Chaos Chronicles.

The drama surrounding this game has provided more entertainment so far than the game itself ever will.
Nah, the drama is petty as are the attempts to make it appear a bigger deal than it is. On the other hand the game and the amount of love invested in it are worth supporting any further attempts should they happen which I will not hesitate to do. As if any of those screeching about scam haven’t ever spent their money in a more retarded way

Looks to me like you already found enough patsies the last time you floated this crap. How about you just get them to start cutting cheques and then fuck off?
 

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underground nymph how about you put up some cash instead of just butthurt rating, you little bitch?
 

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Anyway, we'll see how this thing develops in coming days. Maybe angel investor will fly down from h€aven. My overall impression after further investigation is that Hob is just terrible manager and good programmer, which is often the case. Releasing footage that shows some of everything that they've done and that they own (maps, quests, story etc) should hopefully rekindle small flame of trust. If not, perfectly understandable

When small RPG adventure releases, it should do that. Return some lost trust. Good start for bigger things to come
 

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Anyway, we'll see how this thing develops in coming days. Maybe angel investor will fly down from h€aven. My overall impression after further investigation is that Hob is just terrible manager and good programmer, which is often the case. Releasing footage that shows some of everything that they've done and that they own (maps, quests, story etc) should hopefully rekindle small flame of trust. If not, perfectly understandable

When small RPG adventure releases, it should do that. Return some lost trust

Based on ratings and rhetoric, I'd suggest that underground nymph should be up for at least 5k, maybe even the full 10.
 

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You're probably upset that underground nymph is both RPG connoisseur, savvy investor AND sexy beast with 8inch cock. If we were inside RPG, I'd have him as part of my party
 

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You're probably upset that underground nymph is both RPG connoisseur, savvy investor AND sexy beast with 8inch cock. If we were inside RPG, I'd have him as part of my party
Ok. More collecting cash and fucking off, less posting.
 

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I will say that even if you can find people to send you money for this stupid idea, posting all this stuff is a waste of your time. Hobo is likely savvy enough not to put himself in a position where he can be sued and/or charged with fraud. But if he is, then I hope you're able to get this started and have deep enough pockets for the subsequent lawsuits.
 

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ITT reminder that it is better to develop smaller and less ambitious games first and then eventually build it up until you can release your dream project. That is, if you are genuine about the development in the first place. Otherwise, keep overpromising and underneverdelivering LOL.
 
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If a country produces 400 apartments, 500 cars and 1000 pairs of boots per year, you can set the tax to 1% or 99%, the country will still have produced the same amount of apartments, cars and boots. And they have to be distributed between members of society no matter what.
this is your brain on communism
they think people who have 99% of their income taken will continue to work
 

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They own them all.
Not the maps that were built by Timothy Drude, who was also lead level designer, not just ghost CEO.

The rights to the other maps should have gone back to the people who made them, and those should all be reasonable enough to allow them to appear in a new game. Only the ones made by Tim are pretty much locked away forever.
Can you shed some light on the feud that has lead to all this?
 

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They own them all.
Not the maps that were built by Timothy Drude, who was also lead level designer, not just ghost CEO.

The rights to the other maps should have gone back to the people who made them, and those should all be reasonable enough to allow them to appear in a new game. Only the ones made by Tim are pretty much locked away forever.
Can you shed some light on the feud that has lead to all this?

The only one who can is Timothy Drude, but he has ghosted everyone who was ever involved in Realms Beyond for a long time now, including the fucking co-owner of the company.
When I was part of the team, I never noticed him do anything sketchy and there was no conflict between him and any other team members.

But one day, when the company started looking for publishers to fund the rest of development, he just... vanished. Seems like he didn't want to deal with the responsibility and as a consequence just decided to completely ignore everything related to the game and the company he was supposed to manage. There is no juicy drama here. Just one guy going radio silent and tanking the company that way.
 
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Strap Yourselves In
They own them all.
Not the maps that were built by Timothy Drude, who was also lead level designer, not just ghost CEO.

The rights to the other maps should have gone back to the people who made them, and those should all be reasonable enough to allow them to appear in a new game. Only the ones made by Tim are pretty much locked away forever.
Can you shed some light on the feud that has lead to all this?

The only one who can is Timothy Drude, but he has ghosted everyone who was ever involved in Realms Beyond for a long time now, including the fucking co-owner of the company.
When I was part of the team, I never noticed him do anything sketchy and there was no conflict between him and any other team members.

But one day, when the company started looking for publishers to fund the rest of development, he just... vanished. Seems like he didn't want to deal with the responsibility and as a consequence just decided to completely ignore everything related to the game and the company he was supposed to manage. There is no juicy drama here. Just one guy going radio silent and tanking the company that way.
Thanks. Not eager for drama, though find this explanation a bit lacking. From my point of view there might have been some sort of disagreement between the parties in regards of the publisher or some other development related thing. Otherwise I can hardly imagine somebody completely retreating from a project and not willing to hand over what he has while not even voicing his conditions. That’s just either super weird or emotional.

Do you believe there’s any future for the project after the breakup?
 

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Thanks. Not eager for drama, though find this explanation a bit lacking. From my point of view there might have been some sort of disagreement between the parties in regards of the publisher or some other development related thing. Otherwise I can hardly imagine somebody completely retreating from a project and not willing to hand over what he has while not even voicing his conditions. That’s just either super weird or emotional.

Do you believe there’s any future for the project after the breakup
People can be weird, anxious, autistic, retarded, butthurt or cocktail of all of the above. Some people one day just get up and disappear from radar. What can't be said is that he didn't know what he was doing, namely destroying company he half owned and crushing dreams of his business partner. There probably was some malice involved towards Hob, though not necessarily. He could have been simply spoiled, Rich Daddy's little autist who suddenly lost all interest into project

Either way, he's best written off as collateral damage, and team should move on. Mistakes were made, lessons were learned. Ownership and management needs to be clear and tight. One Owner. Start ups with two owners with equal say are notoriously prone to implosions
 

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Financial, managerial and ownshership aspect of game dev is incredibly important. Second most important thing after skill & passion
 
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