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Vapourware Realms Beyond: Ashes of the Fallen - Chaos Chronicles reborn and dead again
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Swingers party went wrong I guess
Look, if you don't want to take it, don't bend over. That's all I'm saying.
Hey, if you are looking for a corpse to fuck, the local morgue probably has more fresh ones.
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It is easy to only see the glass half empty and complain that we got kickstarscammed, but the screenshots are indeed fabulous. I am tired of all the negativity on this forum at times, why can't we simply enjoy what we have.Hello, I stopped by to say how wonderful the screenshots from this project look!
The newest of news (I suppose):
https://tomsgaming.com/2024/06/28/realms-beyond-ashes-of-the-fallen-interview-with-the-lead-writer/
...I think I’ve said all there is to be said about Realms Beyond. All I would add is that while RB is dead, I am not, and you might see some of my quest design elsewhere soon.
https://tomsgaming.com/2024/06/28/realms-beyond-ashes-of-the-fallen-interview-with-the-lead-writer/
...I think I’ve said all there is to be said about Realms Beyond. All I would add is that while RB is dead, I am not, and you might see some of my quest design elsewhere soon.
I wrote in English, with Laterna Magica translating my stuff to German (for a consistent style). I vibed well with the guy, he hadn't written for games before and his style was very unusual but that made it interesting. Very fitting to medieval fantasy.
luj1
You're all shills
he already said that some guy is withholding assets out of spite
The whole affair was quite surreal, and I'm not sure how much I should say about it.
The gist is that the other guy, who owned 50% of the company, ended up ghosting us and blocking us from doing anything because as 50% owner he had the right to veto any decision we would have made.
The original issue was that his dad, who had invested a lot of money into the company (so his son could have his own company, basically) kept interfering in important business decisions. When our Kickstarter money ran out we were looking for a publisher to finish the game. We were still far from finished but could have delivered an early access version soon enough. We received offers from some major publishers within our genre, like the Russian publisher 1C who focus on strategy and RPG and whose profile we would have fit into perfectly.
But the other guy's dad (who has no experience with the game industry and doesn't know what a usual publishing contract looks like) interfered and rejected the offer because he thought we could do better.
This repeated with every other offer we received.
I don't know exactly what went on between HobGoblin and the other guy during that time, but it must have strained their relationship. Afterwards, the other guy ghosted Hob. I tried to contact him too, by email and discord, but he didn't respond anywhere.
The game suffered from overambitious goals, and we didn't have the money to finish it without a publisher, so when the search for a publisher remained unsuccessful (due to the other guy's dad's meddling), I suggested to Hob that we re-purpose one of our maps and make a mini-module we can release on Steam for 10 bucks and raise some funds to continue development.
Hob liked the idea - it would have been a cool little module. The repurposed map would have been a mountain resort for nobility, and the module would have focused on a murder mystery investigation, as well as some exploration of the surrounding wilderness and a dungeon crawl.
But because we couldn't have done anything without the other guy's approval - he owned 50% of the company after all, any decision made in the company had to have at least 51% approval so he deadlocked us - the idea never materialized. Instead, the company died, half of the assets went to that guy, and he's hoarding them to this day, not responding to any inquiries from us. This means that even if we wanted, we can't do anything with the game anymore.
Some stupid drama and meddling from a clueless guy killed the game.
This and the other stuff, I have always figured that the team should have formed a separate company independent of the other guy, raised capital and restarted the project from the ground up to avoid any IP struggles and let the other guy piss away whatever in the shell of a fledgling business he killed.
Anyway, hobgob can still eat a dick or five whatever the truth of it.
Yeah that's kind of an issue when you've just raised capital for another game which died due to drama between the company managers, and then you need to raise capital again to remake a lot of the assets that you now no longer own...
Sure, initially, I came here out of the mood to jest. However, the interview I found later on, and the specific part you so fittingly pin-pointed, gave me at least some conclusion. I am glad for that. Something along these lines:
From what I gathered from experts, including German law, a lot of unnecessary suffering and autistic sorrow happened which didn't have to. The other guy CLEARLY sabotaged company and any judge would see that as so. You could have easily changed him as CEO after year+ of absence and sign any contract and move on. If he came out of his hole screeching you could then have meeting with him. After certain time if CEO is missing or not responding there are automatic processes for his replacement. Let's not be autistic foxes. Only, and literally only thing you should have done is paid him his 50% of profit split, because as long he lives or doesn't sell off his half of business, he's half owner
That's the Truth, everything else is lies or autistic cowardice to move on without him out of fear of his lawyer dad or ignorance of your true legal position. HobGoblin ran away with 100.000+€ from backers and another 100.000+€ from state of Bavaria. He could have released the engine to backers. He could have released the engine to backers. Once more: He could have released the engine to backers as sign of good will, sorry and gratitude. He didn't
True villain, as lying fox or as autistic shitlib coward (he stayed inside his house one year after Covid) is HobGoblin. I got Disco Elysium for free from him on Steam. Long story why. That is enough of financial compensation compared to my pledge. Nothing can compensate my emotional investment into this project
TLDR: German autism uber alles. This project was doomed to fail because HobGoblin was involved. Simple As
P. S. I still like Germans
That's the Truth, everything else is lies or autistic cowardice to move on without him out of fear of his lawyer dad or ignorance of your true legal position. HobGoblin ran away with 100.000+€ from backers and another 100.000+€ from state of Bavaria. He could have released the engine to backers. He could have released the engine to backers. Once more: He could have released the engine to backers as sign of good will, sorry and gratitude. He didn't
True villain, as lying fox or as autistic shitlib coward (he stayed inside his house one year after Covid) is HobGoblin. I got Disco Elysium for free from him on Steam. Long story why. That is enough of financial compensation compared to my pledge. Nothing can compensate my emotional investment into this project
TLDR: German autism uber alles. This project was doomed to fail because HobGoblin was involved. Simple As
P. S. I still like Germans
Keep in mind that average gamer was for decades gaslit that changing few lines of code amounted to waiting months for a patch. Truth is: that company either moved on, didn't care or had SHIT programmers. The same is with legal or any other matters. Things are complex but much, much, much less so then those inside the craft would like those outside to believe
Legally, case was a bit complicated, but pretty straightforward. Lawyer to whom HobGoblin spent thousands of € is either incompetent, doesn't give a fuck or friend of other guy's lawyer dad
Simple As. Things in life are prrrrretty much Simple As. HOLY SIMPLICITY. Any additional complicating is: autism, cowardice which seeks excuses or malevolance with a mask
Legally, case was a bit complicated, but pretty straightforward. Lawyer to whom HobGoblin spent thousands of € is either incompetent, doesn't give a fuck or friend of other guy's lawyer dad
Simple As. Things in life are prrrrretty much Simple As. HOLY SIMPLICITY. Any additional complicating is: autism, cowardice which seeks excuses or malevolance with a mask
No, you're right. If Google's CEO is not responding to messages and leaves board on seen, that's it! Whole company stops, no contracts can be signed, nothing can happen. That makes perfect sense and logic
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