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Red Dead Redemption 2 - now available on PC
- Thread starter Morgoth
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Seems to me like you want to play a role playing game instead. Why force yourself to play a game you're clearly not interested in?
There is no mechanical character progression beyond getting new dead eye abilities, more health and more stamina.
There is no mechanical character progression beyond getting new dead eye abilities, more health and more stamina.
PorkyThePaladin
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You and I don't agree on much but I agree 100% here. I had very similar thoughts as you lukaszek so what I did was stop playing it. It appeals to a certain kind of person who cares more about immersion and story than they do gameplay, to a degree beyond even other games with that same focus, and for me it was too much. Just drop it.
PorkyThePaladin
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I would go further. I think the forced linear gameplay in RDR2 actually hurts immersion, at least for me. How can I immerse myself into a character when the game is constantly dictating what I can and cannot do down to the tiniest choices? As well as the forced story where Arthur behaves in a way that I cannot associate with at all. I think most normal people would've tried to walk away from that kind of shit situation if they could, so it's hard to associate with a character who keeps sticking with a boss who is clearly headed to bad places.
Curratum
Guest
M-M-monster bump!
Steam sale is tomorrow, I really want that game but have hardware worries. Would rather spare me 4 hours of downloading and then refunding.
I'm on the following:
i5 3470 @ 3.2 ghz
16 gb ram
RX 570 4gb
I watched a whole bunch of performance and settings guides and breakdowns and settled for a setting set used by Hardware Unboxed to get decent FPS and good visuals at the least cost to fps.
Anyone on a comparable setup, do you think I will be able to have 50-ish fps at 1080p without turning everything down?
Steam sale is tomorrow, I really want that game but have hardware worries. Would rather spare me 4 hours of downloading and then refunding.
I'm on the following:
i5 3470 @ 3.2 ghz
16 gb ram
RX 570 4gb
I watched a whole bunch of performance and settings guides and breakdowns and settled for a setting set used by Hardware Unboxed to get decent FPS and good visuals at the least cost to fps.
Anyone on a comparable setup, do you think I will be able to have 50-ish fps at 1080p without turning everything down?
Great Deceiver
Arcane
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The game has very bad frame timing issues - even though you might get 40-50 fps with that rig, it will still stutter like crazy. It's very badly optimized.
My own rig is a 3570k@4.4ghz with a GTX 1070, it ran at around 50-60fps at middle of the road settings, but as I said, frame timing is awful. If you're not particularly sensitive about that sort of thing, you might not be too bothered, by I had to lock my framerate at 30fps to have a smoother experience (I guess an added bonus was that I could jack up the resolution to 4k).
My own rig is a 3570k@4.4ghz with a GTX 1070, it ran at around 50-60fps at middle of the road settings, but as I said, frame timing is awful. If you're not particularly sensitive about that sort of thing, you might not be too bothered, by I had to lock my framerate at 30fps to have a smoother experience (I guess an added bonus was that I could jack up the resolution to 4k).
Runs great for me, at 1440p
i7 4790k (4.00/4.40 GHz) 4 cores/8 threads
8GB DDR3
GTX 1080ti (11 GB Vram)
I'd consult benchmarks and Digital Foundry if I were you.
i7 4790k (4.00/4.40 GHz) 4 cores/8 threads
8GB DDR3
GTX 1080ti (11 GB Vram)
I'd consult benchmarks and Digital Foundry if I were you.
I followed Hardware Unboxed's settings guide and really smooth framerates well above 60 most of the time at 1440p on a 2070. It requires putting a few things on medium, but medium is still well above what the Xbox One X uses and it runs at 30fps, so... perspective and all that.
You have a point, actually.
Probably I also couldn't stand the fact that the story up to and in Strawberry summed up to me wiping the asses of the rest of the gang, and also giving them money to show my gratitude for their existence, that's why at the first chance I got I just rode off to the north, exploring the map, hunting animals for food and skins, and drinking and gambling away the money. Spent like 40 hours doing just that. Then I played 100 hours or so multiplayer, reached rank 50, maxed out the trapper and reached halfway moonshiner. I'm currently giving the game a rest, but I'll come back eventually.
The entire Rockstar formula is "smart guy is surrounded by idiots but does everything they tell him to anyway."
rado907
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Finally got around to playing this one. It's insane. The graphics are godly, the story and dialogue are excellent (laughs galore, occasional tingles), there are a million things to do and it just keeps going. You go from the Rockies to the Wild West to the sleepy rural South to New Orleans to looking forward to whatever's next. No trope left unexplored. Better than TV. Best game of this genre since Witcher 3.
Bravo Rockstar!
Curious if Rockstar will try to do their thing in one more setting. CDPR took over European Fantasy and Cyberpunk. And KCD tried to do hardcore middle ages. Maybe Rockstar can do Rome or hard sci-fi. (I guess they're doing Medieval - good for them.)
I guess we'll find out. What a company tho. Hard to make good games for 25 years straight.
Bravo Rockstar!
Curious if Rockstar will try to do their thing in one more setting. CDPR took over European Fantasy and Cyberpunk. And KCD tried to do hardcore middle ages. Maybe Rockstar can do Rome or hard sci-fi. (I guess they're doing Medieval - good for them.)
I guess we'll find out. What a company tho. Hard to make good games for 25 years straight.
Immortal
Arcane
:heh: It's called ~ immersive ~
Everyone knows you can't teleport horses to your location if they are too far away.
What genre?
Open World Slog
Don't expect any more good, singleplayer focused games from Rockstar. RDR2 was their swan song.
My wet dream now is that they do a proper Mafia game, with systemic mafia family territories, activities like extortion, building up authority and respect, etc.
I hope we get the long rumored second Vice City game at least. I agree online will be their focus, but one last GTA swan song would be appreciated.
KVVRR
Learned
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you just described san andreas
San Andreas I've played at release. It's too old to pretend it's still good to play and that the chasm in production values doesn't matter.
kangaxx
Arbiter
How is it on PC? This is a game I was begging to end when I trudged through it on PS4. My pick for the most overrated game of all time, although the graphics and overall world they crafted are very nice indeed.
If you didn't like the gameplay - murderhobo collector, or the story - where the missions are very tightly controlled - you won't like it on PC either. The graphics are better as you can expect.
rado907
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Impressions - minor spoilers.
Beat the main story, could not stand to play the epilogue(s). Good game with spectacular production values; but the story is uneven and the gameplay eventually becomes stale.
RDR2 is of the open-world period/world-simulation interactive-movie genre, like Witcher III, KCD, Skyrim, and GTAV.
Beat the main story, could not stand to play the epilogue(s). Good game with spectacular production values; but the story is uneven and the gameplay eventually becomes stale.
RDR2 is of the open-world period/world-simulation interactive-movie genre, like Witcher III, KCD, Skyrim, and GTAV.
The graphics, engine, performance, and production values are insane. As has been the norm since GTAIV, graphics are photorealistic, loading times are short, transitions from outdoors to indoors are seamless, set designs are impeccable, and the devs have simulated many key activities. The result is a gorgeous and rich virtual world. You experience a piece of the beauty of America, particularly the Rockies and the South. You also get to visit 1900 New Orleans - one of the great world cities of the 19th century.
Unlike Skyrim, where one can genuinely play for 50 hours while barely advancing the main quest (and which I beat in 35 hours and never looked at again), RDR2 is far more linear than it appears to be. With few side quests and side activities, RDR2 revolves around its main story, which has a good first half and a weak conclusion, further hampered by a contradictory protagonist and a choking fog of PC.
Between the opening and the midway climax in the game's major city, the story proceeds nicely, with new challenges, characters, vistas, and gameplay introduced along the way. You are a gunslinger in a struggling band of outlaws ran by a charismatic fellow by the name of Dutch. The second half of the game, though, drags horribly. It becomes clear that your leader is a psychotic loser, and your protagonist is his boss's pathetic obedient stooge. The gameplay stagnates, as does the character development. The PC thickens, suffocating the plot. Side characters blend into each other to form a gaggle of unwashed thugs and superhuman tokens. The game drags.
At its core RDR2 is mainly a shooter, and as such it is bland. For purposes of realism, the variety of weapons is extremely limited to what you would expect. Beyond that, you take cover and use your bullet time to score headshots - and that's it.
While worth the price of admission, RDR2 is not the megahit the fake news mainstream reviews make it out to be. It's a phenomenal technology showpiece, but a mediocre game. I enjoyed all of Witcher 3, KCD, GTAV, FC4, and even LA Noir better than this one. They had more variety, better vistas, better characters, and more fun than the preachy but strangely colorless RDR2.
8/10; not pre-ordering the next R* effort.
Unlike Skyrim, where one can genuinely play for 50 hours while barely advancing the main quest (and which I beat in 35 hours and never looked at again), RDR2 is far more linear than it appears to be. With few side quests and side activities, RDR2 revolves around its main story, which has a good first half and a weak conclusion, further hampered by a contradictory protagonist and a choking fog of PC.
Between the opening and the midway climax in the game's major city, the story proceeds nicely, with new challenges, characters, vistas, and gameplay introduced along the way. You are a gunslinger in a struggling band of outlaws ran by a charismatic fellow by the name of Dutch. The second half of the game, though, drags horribly. It becomes clear that your leader is a psychotic loser, and your protagonist is his boss's pathetic obedient stooge. The gameplay stagnates, as does the character development. The PC thickens, suffocating the plot. Side characters blend into each other to form a gaggle of unwashed thugs and superhuman tokens. The game drags.
At its core RDR2 is mainly a shooter, and as such it is bland. For purposes of realism, the variety of weapons is extremely limited to what you would expect. Beyond that, you take cover and use your bullet time to score headshots - and that's it.
While worth the price of admission, RDR2 is not the megahit the fake news mainstream reviews make it out to be. It's a phenomenal technology showpiece, but a mediocre game. I enjoyed all of Witcher 3, KCD, GTAV, FC4, and even LA Noir better than this one. They had more variety, better vistas, better characters, and more fun than the preachy but strangely colorless RDR2.
8/10; not pre-ordering the next R* effort.
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