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Capcom Resident Evil 4 Remake - out now for PC/Playstation/Xbox

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He has the entire tlou pc version fiasco to cover, but instead decided to make a biased comparison of scenes between the og and the remake, just to capitalise on the current popularity of the game. What a chad
 

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The absolutely seething that Crowbcat video is causing is delicious.

Apparently some little group was told on their discord to repeat that the sound is low and they've been attacking that in the comments while ignoring the other things showed in the video that are easily worse than the sound issue. It's hilarious.
 

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Everybody's stuck on the sound thing because that's all they can argue with. Pathetic wankers can't take the fact that artistry gets fcked everytime somebody else re-interprets the original work. They don't care though, all they want is pretty graphics and modern controls, and inclusivity in the gaming circles which played the originals without putting in the work. Fckn wanking pathetic "modern" gamers! They want to be art critics without understanding the art and they also attach their ego and pride onto it, so now no-one's allowed to utter a word of criticism.
 
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Twitter getting mad about this video is pretty hilarious. It’s a pretty innocuous video, and I’d imagine in a year or twos time a lot of people bitching about it will be like: Yeah, those thing were better in the original. I’m sure the title alone just turned a lot of people’s brains off.

Some of comparisons are also just completely inarguable too. Like you could chalk up the art direction to personal preference. You can even do that with some (but not all) of the direction and staging of the cutscenes. But nobody is going to look at a comparison between the death animations (even if you like the new eye one) and honestly say the largely less violent ones of the Remake are better. The death animations being toned down is actually a little weird given Resident Evil 7 brought violence back to the series, and the remake of 2 was largely pretty violent too. This Remake of 4, and the original 4 was the last of the violent Resident Evils before 7, almost feels like we got the censored Japanese version. Like the new chainsaw kill would be pretty cool if it split Leon like he was the T-1000 or Ben Bertolucci in RE2, but it doesn’t.
 
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Everybody's stuck on the sound thing because that's all they can argue with.
I don't know if there's some glitch that's only affecting some people or if the people saying it's fine is a coordinated cope campaign but even with maxed sound settings I felt the game's ambience and ganados dialogue was fairly quieter than the original while the actual characters dialogue and combat sounds were fine. It was something that was bothering me before the Crowbcat video even came out as I still haven't taken the time to watch it. Hopefully he knocks Crapcom for charging 3$ for the original soundtrack option as the new music and sound effects were forgettable as fuck.
 

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Twitter getting mad about this video is pretty hilarious. It’s a pretty innocuous video, and I’d imagine in a year or twos time a lot of people bitching about it will be like: Yeah, those thing were better in the original. I’m sure the title alone just turned a lot of people’s brains off.

Some of comparisons are also just completely inarguable too. Like you could chalk up the art direction to personal preference. You can even do that with some (but not all) of the direction and staging of the cutscenes. But nobody is going to look at a comparison between the death animations (even if you like the new eye one) and honestly say the largely less violent ones of the Remake are better. The death animations being toned down is actually a little weird given Resident Evil 7 brought violence back to the series, and the remake of 2 was largely pretty violent too. This Remake of 4, and the original 4 was the last of the violent Resident Evils before 7, almost feels like we got the censored Japanese version. Like the new chainsaw kill would be pretty cool if it split Leon like he was the T-1000 or Ben Bertolucci in RE2, but it doesn’t.

Someone has mentioned DMC5 art direction and genreal graphics have aged badly and its the same engine. i havne't played since release but didnt dmc5 sell well? yet no dmc6 lol
 

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The absolutely seething that Crowbcat video is causing is delicious.

Apparently some little group was told on their discord to repeat that the sound is low and they've been attacking that in the comments while ignoring the other things showed in the video that are easily worse than the sound issue. It's hilarious.

It's because he's right, and they know it. Remake will be forgotten about within a couple of years.

He's got a real talent for showing the 'not quite right' in his videos.
 

tommy heavenly6

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Shills are getting mad because the original still exists and the remake hasn't entirely supplanted. Otherwise you can't explain them becoming so mad at simply seeing footage of the original.

"You guys still have the original, nobody wants to remove it from existence" has always been bullshit. Like gamergate, "nobody's coming for your games", yeah, right.

This reveals the seemingly innocuous ideological push of remakes, which is rewriting and removing the past. Something the guys on certain ideological spectrum love to do.
 

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I don't know if there's some glitch that's only affecting some people or if the people saying it's fine is a coordinated cope campaign but even with maxed sound settings I felt the game's ambience and ganados dialogue was fairly quieter than the original while the actual characters dialogue and combat sounds were fine. It was something that was bothering me before the Crowbcat video even came out as I still haven't taken the time to watch it.
that's just a different approach to the soundscape. The OG RE4 was a very "gamey" game, and wanted its sound effects to be distinct so the players could use it to keep track of their surroundings. The specific lines ganados were saying arer actually signals (the most famous example is "detras de ti, imbecil" when there's an enemy behind you). Same with other sound effects, armaduras and el gigantes all have thumping footsteps so the player could hear whether they are behind him or not.

Since remake's Leon can move while shooting and the player has more control over game's camera, the game no longer needed to sound distinct. Devs also added Leon's in-game quips which (together with Ashley's screams) drown out all other sound effects when playing.

Hopefully he knocks Crapcom for charging 3$ for the original soundtrack option as the new music and sound effects were forgettable as fuck.
but the new soundtrack isn't all that different, it mostly comprised of remixes of the old themes.

Island theme
OG - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71heHLDXmKo

Remake's theme is a slower and creepier remix.

Krauser's theme
OG's Krauser stage theme - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSoW9Vx7iIg
OG's Krauser fight theme - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm3-3bhi2D4

Remake combines them together, fight theme starts at 5:08

Mike's theme
OG's Mike theme - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6So65vGQxQ

Remake's theme. For the most part it's really different because remake uses dynamic music (the game stitches the background music from small pieces depending on what's currently happening on screen, whether there are enemies around, etc). OG's motiffs kick in at 1:01 and 2:40.

Saddler's theme
OG's Saddler theme - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXiHqszkYRM

Remake's theme (actual fight theme starts at 1:20)


I tried playing with OG sound effects and music, and it didn't really change the vibe tbh. Some of the older tracks are also less memorable than the new ones. Shooting range, El Gigante duo, Salazar's theme, minecart ride - all are better in the remake.
 
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Twitter getting mad about this video is pretty hilarious. It’s a pretty innocuous video, and I’d imagine in a year or twos time a lot of people bitching about it will be like: Yeah, those thing were better in the original. I’m sure the title alone just turned a lot of people’s brains off.

Some of comparisons are also just completely inarguable too. Like you could chalk up the art direction to personal preference. You can even do that with some (but not all) of the direction and staging of the cutscenes. But nobody is going to look at a comparison between the death animations (even if you like the new eye one) and honestly say the largely less violent ones of the Remake are better. The death animations being toned down is actually a little weird given Resident Evil 7 brought violence back to the series, and the remake of 2 was largely pretty violent too. This Remake of 4, and the original 4 was the last of the violent Resident Evils before 7, almost feels like we got the censored Japanese version. Like the new chainsaw kill would be pretty cool if it split Leon like he was the T-1000 or Ben Bertolucci in RE2, but it doesn’t.

Someone has mentioned DMC5 art direction and genreal graphics have aged badly and its the same engine. i havne't played since release but didnt dmc5 sell well? yet no dmc6 lol


Devil May Cry 5 (which is a whole different team) still looks good. Devil May Cry 5 also looked vastly better than the Resident Evil games on RE Engine that came out before it and around the same time. The DMC5 team did their face scans at a different, better place, (they talked about it in one of their streams) and it really shows when you look at it next to RE2R (which came out the same year) and RE7.

Last I looked Devil May Cry 5 is now Capcom’s 10th best selling game. It’s right under Street Fighter 5, although Street Fighter 5 has been on sale for 7 years.

The Devil May Cry 5 team is working on Dragon’s Dogma 2. Although even if Capcom did have another team working on a DMC6, I wouldn’t expect to have seen anything of it yet. DMC5 came out in 2019, and Covid fucked up games development in 2020. As an example, you look at the leak from 2020 and it has Capcom looking to release this game during Q4 of last year, and Street Fighter 6 (which comes out later this year) during Q3 of last year. We might also get a new Resident Evil next year.

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He altered the title and description lol

Can't tell if he caved in or is just being cheeky...
This whole debacle is hilarious though
Since yesterday /v/ as had multiple active threads on Crowbcat's video, not even Sseth gets this much traction...
 
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