Community RPG Codex People's Awards: Best RPGs

[Lady_Error]

No Dark Heart or RoA series ?

RoA gives almost no xp for combat against anything you have already encountered. This is mortal insult. As if its combat wasn't boring and repetetive to begin with, they even insist on withholding rewards for suffering through it? Fuck these losers.

Have you played only the first part? In RoA 2 you can have automated combat that speeds things up against weak enemies. Combat done in half a minute, or less.

 

[mondblut]

RoA gives almost no xp for combat against anything you have already encountered. This is mortal insult. As if its combat wasn't boring and repetetive to begin with, they even insist on withholding rewards for suffering through it? Fuck these losers.

Have you played only the first part? In RoA 2 you can have automated combat that speeds things up against weak enemies. Combat done in half a minute, or less.

I played the trilogy through, of course. Autocombat doesn't mitigate the fact you don't gain anything from it, making it nothing but annoyance. Moreover, the fact it is there alone is a proof enough of the developers being aware that this shit has no purpose whatsoever and delivers nothing but frustration, so something must be done to make all these countless encounters that give you no xp and drain you of no resources less painful a waste of time.

 

[granit]

Is Diablo 2 a better cRPG than Exile 2: Crystal Souls?

Since Exile series wasn't even mentioned in the list, is Geneforge considered the better game? Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that Jeff Vogel got mentioned at all. Personally I haven't tried Vogel's later works. Maybe its time to give Geneforge a chance...

 

[OSK]

Is Diablo 2 a better cRPG than Exile 2: Crystal Souls?

Since Exile series wasn't even mentioned in the list, is Geneforge considered the better game? Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that Jeff Vogel got mentioned at all. Personally I haven't tried Vogel's later works. Maybe its time to give Geneforge a chance...

I voted for Exile (3?). The games just didn't make the top 50.

I enjoyed Geneforge more than Exile, but they're very different RPGs.

 

[LeStryfe79]

Why is the codex console list better than the crpg one? Honestly, where the fuck are Wizardry, Bard's Tale, Might & Magic, Gold Box, and Betrayal at Krondor? It's like the Codex is actually the cause of Popamole with all the RTwP shit on that list. You do realize it's all a matter of storyfagging right? I had high hopes for this joint, but you turned out to be a bunch of David Gaiders. BG2 is as inane as Fallout 3, but it seems everyone jerked off to it when they got pubes. Goddamn decline my ass.

WE ARE DECLINE

 

[Lady_Error]

LeStryfe79
Drunk

 

[LeStryfe79]

Can I get you anything? Perhaps a flagon of mead or a nice cider drink?

 

[BobtheTree]

I said this before, but one is a problem of availability. A lot of the games in the top 50 CRPGs are games you can access pretty easily from various digital distributors, while a lot of the glaring omissions you have to basically by used on ebay and half the time the prices are ridiculous.

 

[Black]

Why is the codex console list better than the crpg one? Honestly, where the fuck are Wizardry, Bard's Tale, Might & Magic, Gold Box, and Betrayal at Krondor? It's like the Codex is actually the cause of Popamole with all the RTwP shit on that list. You do realize it's all a matter of storyfagging right? I had high hopes for this joint, but you turned out to be a bunch of David Gaiders. BG2 is as inane as Fallout 3, but it seems everyone jerked off to it when they got pubes. Goddamn decline my ass.

Poplists are bad no matter where they appear, it appears you've been 'd.

 

[Lady_Error]

I said this before, but one is a problem of availability. A lot of the games in the top 50 CRPGs are games you can access pretty easily from various digital distributors, while a lot of the glaring omissions you have to basically by used on ebay and half the time the prices are ridiculous.

Actually, most of the earlier CRPG's are abandonware now and you can download them for free. Admittedly, you need to know how to use Dosbox though.

On the other hand, there are sites like GOG where you can download those games for a couple bucks and there is no need to "mount" in Dosbox anymore.

 

[Mortmal]

Its not a problem of availability , if you want to access the old school rpgs theres nothing easier they are on many abandonware sites, reviewed, with the manuals and all you need . Thats way more titles than what we had in shops and free , but if you arent able to use dosbox its likely you are too dumb to enjoy them . They arent instant gratification games, some requires mapping,have hard puzzles, they are much much harder than modern games. You wont see them on top because voters are too young and absolutely not interested into that , just have to read the usual general discussion threads, "i am in love" , "how to interact with women" to understand the average codexer is very young.

 

[Severian Silk]

You could have at least linked to the actual polls.

 

[DeepOcean]

BG2 is as inane as Fallout 3.

Man, I hate David Gayder but even he doesn't deserve this.

 

[Jasede]

Hey, that jRPG list is pretty prestigious.

 

[RK47]

Vampire Redemption top 50?
XD
Fucking hell.

 

[Dreaad]

The console list doesn't even have shadow hearts... Guyz what's going on here... next thing you know DA2 will be in the top 10 crpg's

Also you might as well make a handheld list, otherwise you miss out on too many awesome jrpg's.

 

[felipepepe]

Shadow Hearts got 2 votes only. And the list includes handheld games as well, Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis is for GBA. Many other handheld jRPGs received votes, like Pokemon, Etrian Odissey, Dark Spire, Devil Survivor, etc... but since everyone voted on a different one, there was no consensus.

 

[Athelas]

I mostly agree with the cRPG list with some caveats.

The console list is terrible however. Final Fantasy Tactics on #3 and Tactics Ogre on #17 when it's widely known the former is an inferior rip-off of the latter? Grandia in the absolute bottom despite iits turnbased battle system being possibly the best ever made? Breath of Fire II and Terranigma ranking similarly low despite being some of the first (and still one of the few) jRPG's with C&C?
Games like Chrono Cross, Xenogears and most Final Fantasy's exemplify everything that is wrong with jRPG's: nonsensical, needlessly convoluted stories and unintuitive combat/stat mechanics.

 

[Duraframe300]

I mostly agree with the cRPG list with some caveats.

The console list is terrible however. Final Fantasy Tactics on #3 and Tactics Ogre on #17 when it's widely known the former is an inferior rip-off of the latter?

I'm not quite sure how the term rip-off applies all that much here considering its a lot of the same people.

 

[Athelas]

I mostly agree with the cRPG list with some caveats.

The console list is terrible however. Final Fantasy Tactics on #3 and Tactics Ogre on #17 when it's widely known the former is an inferior rip-off of the latter?

I'm not quite sure how the term rip-off applies all that much here considering its a lot of the same people.

Rehash then?

 

[felipepepe]

The console list suffers from a small voting group (only 68), a HUGE amount of good games & few "absolute classics" to vote on and very little consensus. Chrono Trigger, the #1, only has 36% of the votes, while Fallout 1 has more than 90% as #1 of the PC list.

That said, FFT was a clear consensus and did receive 3x more votes than Tactics Ogre LUCT, so clearly it's not "widely know as inferior"...

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Even outside of the codex, I never heard of FFT being considered a clearly inferior rip-off of TO. Maybe diehards fans of the genre will say TO is the better game, but it'sd not a "everybody knows this" thing.

 

[LeStryfe79]

I mostly agree with the cRPG list with some caveats.

The console list is terrible however. Final Fantasy Tactics on #3 and Tactics Ogre on #17 when it's widely known the former is an inferior rip-off of the latter? Grandia in the absolute bottom despite iits turnbased battle system being possibly the best ever made? Breath of Fire II and Terranigma ranking similarly low despite being some of the first (and still one of the few) jRPG's with C&C?
Games like Chrono Cross, Xenogears and most Final Fantasy's exemplify everything that is wrong with jRPG's: nonsensical, needlessly convoluted stories and unintuitive combat/stat mechanics.

You have no idea what makes for a good console RPG do you? You praise Grandia for its combat despite the fact that it's piss easy and irrelevant. You say FFT is is a ripoff of a game made by the same guy, and praise C&C in a game that has 1/10 the C&C of Chrono Cross. Your post is less consistent and more hypocritical than the worst IGN or its ilk has to offer. It's like you had a few good memories of some slut you fucked without realizing how much fat and disease she heaped on your cock.

 

[Morality Games]

That monocle'd troll handing out the prize ribbon ought to be an emoticon.

Anyway, as for the lists themselves, it's definitely skewed around games released in the 90s/early 00s. The list is more about Codex's most popular RPGs, rather than the best RPGs. Not really surprising, given the demographics of the Codex (would assume most Codexers are young adults in their 20s or 30s who were/are fans of Black Isle, Troika, etc) and the increased exposure of the games industry in that time period, but before it went to shit.

Not like the writeups and commentary go into depth (lol DU hates RTwP), but it'd be a good starting point for newbies wanting to find out the Codex Approved™ cRPG list. Which I imagine would be the purpose of all this.

Good job, guys.

That said, how the fuck Icewind Dale gets into the top 10 most popular games here baffles me.

You might as well just say Dungeon Siege 3 is one of the top 10 most popular games AM-I-RITE?!

 

[MrEvilGuy]

Vampire Redemption top 50?
XD
Fucking hell.

I take it some people must love this game? Or maybe they mixed it up with Vampire Bloodlines.