Humanophage
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[Boring explanation mode: the first list is more useful if you wouldn't vote for many action games, the second list is useful if you would vote for many action games. See extended lists in the file. The rank gaining lists are a useful heuristic for discovering new games that fit your style in this dichotomy because they include the less-high ranking games that end up as extreme cases. E.g., Rimworld or Close Combat 2 end up greatly boosted in the first list and Devil May Cry 3 or F.E.A.R. in the second.]
That's a fun top, but I am perplexed by ye olde shooters being so high. 1 man = 1 vote is a sham. Why should we give equal consideration to these nostalgic twitchy voters as to true aristocrats of the soul who value perennial non-actiony classics for the mind?
I fixed this situation by weighting votes according to a non-actiony ('brainy') score, based on what fraction of your top-200 vote went to non-actiony games (see methods). There is also a separate 'actiony' score and top if you are the action-loving sort, based on the proportion of your votes that went to action or part-action games. Note that a non-actiony gamer may still like some actiony games and vice versa. Some games that are not actiony are actually better liked by actiony persons in relative terms, like Age of Empires II.
Method:
Greatest non-actiony rank gainers:
Greatest actiony rank gainers:
Full file:
That's a fun top, but I am perplexed by ye olde shooters being so high. 1 man = 1 vote is a sham. Why should we give equal consideration to these nostalgic twitchy voters as to true aristocrats of the soul who value perennial non-actiony classics for the mind?
I fixed this situation by weighting votes according to a non-actiony ('brainy') score, based on what fraction of your top-200 vote went to non-actiony games (see methods). There is also a separate 'actiony' score and top if you are the action-loving sort, based on the proportion of your votes that went to action or part-action games. Note that a non-actiony gamer may still like some actiony games and vice versa. Some games that are not actiony are actually better liked by actiony persons in relative terms, like Age of Empires II.
Method:
Games are classified into 'actiony', 'intermediate', and 'brainy' based on their genre - the emphasis is on the biggest culprits like FPS, so sorry if you think some smaller genres are misclassified. It's unclear if stealth games like Hitman are action games to the same degree as e.g. Quake, so they are given an intermediate score.
actiony = action, action adventure, FPS, platform
intermediate = stealth, survival, survival horror, MMO
brainy = all others
each user gets a 'brainy' score = [points for non-actiony games]*1.5 + [points for intermediate games]*0.25 + [points for actiony games]*0 divided by [total points for top-200]
each user gets an 'actiony' score = [points for non-actiony games]*0 + [points for intermediate games]*1 + [points for actiony games]*1.5 divided by [total points for top-200]
points are weighted based on your 'brainy' score for a separate 'brainy' top
points are weighted based on your 'actiony' score for a separate 'actiony' top
example: you're a brainy grognard with a brainy score of 1.3 and you gave 5 points to X-Com, so it counts as 1.3*5=6.5 points for it in the brainy ledger. If your spent the bulk of your vote on action games and your brainy score is low at 0.1 and you give 5 points to X-Com, then it counts as 0.1*5=0.5 points for the brainy ledger. On the other hand, if the brainy 1.3 user still insists on voting for Quake and gives it 5 points, then it counts as 6.5 points. This way, you can also see which actiony games still appeal to brainy people. (Same principle for the actiony ledger)
actiony = action, action adventure, FPS, platform
intermediate = stealth, survival, survival horror, MMO
brainy = all others
each user gets a 'brainy' score = [points for non-actiony games]*1.5 + [points for intermediate games]*0.25 + [points for actiony games]*0 divided by [total points for top-200]
each user gets an 'actiony' score = [points for non-actiony games]*0 + [points for intermediate games]*1 + [points for actiony games]*1.5 divided by [total points for top-200]
points are weighted based on your 'brainy' score for a separate 'brainy' top
points are weighted based on your 'actiony' score for a separate 'actiony' top
example: you're a brainy grognard with a brainy score of 1.3 and you gave 5 points to X-Com, so it counts as 1.3*5=6.5 points for it in the brainy ledger. If your spent the bulk of your vote on action games and your brainy score is low at 0.1 and you give 5 points to X-Com, then it counts as 0.1*5=0.5 points for the brainy ledger. On the other hand, if the brainy 1.3 user still insists on voting for Quake and gives it 5 points, then it counts as 6.5 points. This way, you can also see which actiony games still appeal to brainy people. (Same principle for the actiony ledger)
Greatest non-actiony rank gainers:
130 Rimworld
129 Sid Meier's Colonization
118 Kerbal Space Program
109 Victoria II
108 Close Combat 2: A Bridge Too Far
105 Silent Hunter III
104 Caesar III
104 Europa Universalis III
103 Fantasy General
103 Startopia
102 Myth II: Soulblighter
94 Master of Orion
92 Europa Universalis IV
90 Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic
87 Day of the Tentacle
87 Invisible Inc.
86 XCOM: Enemy Unknown
84 Dune II: The Building of a Dynasty
83 Transport Tycoon Deluxe
81 Civilization V
80 King of Dragon Pass
80 SimCity 4
78 Warhammer: Dark Omen
75 SimCity 2000
75 Factorio
70 Civilization III
68 Sacrifice
67 Myth: The Fallen Lords
67 Football Manager
66 Beneath a Steel Sky
66 Slay the Spire
63 XCOM 2
61 Primordia
61 X-COM: Apocalypse
59 Pharaoh
57 Disciples II: Dark Prophecy
57 Theme Hospital
56 Command & Conquer: Red Alert
56 Life is Strange
55 Panzer General
54 Tropico
53 Civilization
53 RollerCoaster Tycoon
52 Dwarf Fortress
52 Age of Wonders
51 Lemmings
50 The Walking Dead: A Telltale Games Series
50 I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
49 Worms: Armageddon
49 Elite
129 Sid Meier's Colonization
118 Kerbal Space Program
109 Victoria II
108 Close Combat 2: A Bridge Too Far
105 Silent Hunter III
104 Caesar III
104 Europa Universalis III
103 Fantasy General
103 Startopia
102 Myth II: Soulblighter
94 Master of Orion
92 Europa Universalis IV
90 Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic
87 Day of the Tentacle
87 Invisible Inc.
86 XCOM: Enemy Unknown
84 Dune II: The Building of a Dynasty
83 Transport Tycoon Deluxe
81 Civilization V
80 King of Dragon Pass
80 SimCity 4
78 Warhammer: Dark Omen
75 SimCity 2000
75 Factorio
70 Civilization III
68 Sacrifice
67 Myth: The Fallen Lords
67 Football Manager
66 Beneath a Steel Sky
66 Slay the Spire
63 XCOM 2
61 Primordia
61 X-COM: Apocalypse
59 Pharaoh
57 Disciples II: Dark Prophecy
57 Theme Hospital
56 Command & Conquer: Red Alert
56 Life is Strange
55 Panzer General
54 Tropico
53 Civilization
53 RollerCoaster Tycoon
52 Dwarf Fortress
52 Age of Wonders
51 Lemmings
50 The Walking Dead: A Telltale Games Series
50 I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
49 Worms: Armageddon
49 Elite
Greatest actiony rank gainers:
161 Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening
152 Resident Evil 4
151 Yakuza 0
139 F.E.A.R.
121 Pathologic 2
120 Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
114 Sleeping Dogs
110 Alien: Isolation
110 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
105 Crysis
105 Dishonored 2
103 Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven
102 Dark Messiah of Might & Magic
102 Mark of the Ninja
101 Hitman: Blood Money
100 Thief: Deadly Shadows
100 SWAT 4
97 Mirror's Edge
96 Unreal
91 Resident Evil Remake
89 Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
88 Hollow Knight
88 Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
85 Return to Castle Wolfenstein
85 Assassin's Creed II
84 Bully
79 Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
78 Dishonored
78 Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne
78 SOMA
75 Batman: Arkham Asylum
74 BioShock
74 Unreal Tournament 2004
70 Rayman 2: The Great Escape
70 Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
65 Hotline Miami
65 Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis (aka ARMA: Cold War Assault)
63 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
62 Age of Mythology
59 Darkwood
58 Outcast
55 Hitman
54 S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat
54 Subnautica
51 Syndicate
51 Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun
47 Beyond Good & Evil
46 Terraria
42 Gabriel Knight 1: Sins of the Fathers
41 Star Wars: Jedi Knight II - Jedi Outcast
152 Resident Evil 4
151 Yakuza 0
139 F.E.A.R.
121 Pathologic 2
120 Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
114 Sleeping Dogs
110 Alien: Isolation
110 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
105 Crysis
105 Dishonored 2
103 Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven
102 Dark Messiah of Might & Magic
102 Mark of the Ninja
101 Hitman: Blood Money
100 Thief: Deadly Shadows
100 SWAT 4
97 Mirror's Edge
96 Unreal
91 Resident Evil Remake
89 Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
88 Hollow Knight
88 Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
85 Return to Castle Wolfenstein
85 Assassin's Creed II
84 Bully
79 Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
78 Dishonored
78 Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne
78 SOMA
75 Batman: Arkham Asylum
74 BioShock
74 Unreal Tournament 2004
70 Rayman 2: The Great Escape
70 Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
65 Hotline Miami
65 Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis (aka ARMA: Cold War Assault)
63 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
62 Age of Mythology
59 Darkwood
58 Outcast
55 Hitman
54 S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat
54 Subnautica
51 Syndicate
51 Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun
47 Beyond Good & Evil
46 Terraria
42 Gabriel Knight 1: Sins of the Fathers
41 Star Wars: Jedi Knight II - Jedi Outcast
Full file:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14K44Tv6xn64jV_5ixLHPTsIsYHhmEO11vdHzjg5SZYM/edit?usp=sharing
Sorry about the lazy formatting - just look at the BRAINS and ACTIONY sheets. Note that the top-1000 is also calculated, but I think it's too noisy.
Sorry about the lazy formatting - just look at the BRAINS and ACTIONY sheets. Note that the top-1000 is also calculated, but I think it's too noisy.
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