RPG Codex's Best cRPGs - DISCUSS THREAD / NOW ACCEPTING REVIEWS

[SausageInYourFace]

Joining Ultima 7 The Black Gate + Serpent Isle votes would make more of a difference.

Where would it end up? The absence of U7 from the current list is indeed somewhat surprising.

 

[likaq]

felipepepe
Bloodlines is in top 10 ?

 

[DragoFireheart]

Replaced my Fallout vote with New Vegas for great justice.

Broseph
Filthy Degenerate

wtf is wrong with you?

Stupid floating wash rag.

 

[MicoSelva]

Some people pointed out that series like M&M or the GoldBox Games never make it high in those lists because votes get split up between so many different games. I am not suggesting we should count some of them like M&M6/7/8 as one game due to similar gameplay (even though much could be said in favor of that), but has anyone ever gone through the old votes and did that? Just for fun? Just to see how they would end up? I would really be interested.

Woldun't change that much... most people already either vote for M&M VII or for World of Xeen. Counting M&M 6/7/8 as one only raises it 4 positions atm. Is not like it's in the limbo.

M&M VII was really the best of the three. it improved on M&M VI in pretty much every way, while still remaining relatively fresh. M&M VIII only made some changes and most of them were for the worse.

 

[felipepepe]

Joining Ultima 7 The Black Gate + Serpent Isle votes would make more of a difference.

Where would it end up? The absence of U7 from the current list is indeed somewhat surprising.

I don't wanna keep spoiling the list, but it would jump up more than 20 positions if we counted both as one. I think it's something to be considered, but I'm not a Ultima expert....

Jaesun , what you think? Should Black Gate and Serpent Isle count both just as Ultima VII?

 

[Broseph]

Some people pointed out that series like M&M or the GoldBox Games never make it high in those lists because votes get split up between so many different games. I am not suggesting we should count some of them like M&M6/7/8 as one game due to similar gameplay (even though much could be said in favor of that), but has anyone ever gone through the old votes and did that? Just for fun? Just to see how they would end up? I would really be interested.

Woldun't change that much... most people already either vote for M&M VII or for World of Xeen. Counting M&M 6/7/8 as one only raises it 4 positions atm. Is not like it's in the limbo.

M&M VII was really the best of the three. it improved on M&M VI in pretty much every way, while still remaining relatively fresh. M&M VIII only made some changes and most of them were for the worse.

Nah, VI is much better IMO. VII's dungeons kinda suck and the endgame is just a bad rehash of VI's.

 

[SuicideBunny]

The absence of U7 from the current list is indeed somewhat surprising.

considering that, while a good game, u7 is a really really shitty rpg, i don't find that surprising at all.

 

[Metatron]

Some people pointed out that series like M&M or the GoldBox Games never make it high in those lists because votes get split up between so many different games. I am not suggesting we should count some of them like M&M6/7/8 as one game due to similar gameplay (even though much could be said in favor of that), but has anyone ever gone through the old votes and did that? Just for fun? Just to see how they would end up? I would really be interested.

Woldun't change that much... most people already either vote for M&M VII or for World of Xeen. Counting M&M 6/7/8 as one only raises it 4 positions atm. Is not like it's in the limbo.

M&M VII was really the best of the three. it improved on M&M VI in pretty much every way, while still remaining relatively fresh. M&M VIII only made some changes and most of them were for the worse.

Nah, VI is much better IMO. VII's dungeons kinda suck and the endgame is just a bad rehash of VI's.

The dungeons are larger but I don't think more of the same shit always equals better, sometimes it's a bit too much. The endgame is more or less the same.
On every other aspect VII is definitely an improved and refined experience though. Better skill system, more racial options, better looking environments, the ability to actually move during combat, better and more involving storyline (I know that's not why you play M&M in the first place but I can still hardly remember anything about the VI storyline despite finishing it 3 times), Arcomage, etc.

 

[Morality Games]

I might have weighted Torment too strongly with a 4, particularly in relation to VtM: Bloodlines' 3 . . . I should have taken away one of its points and assigned it to 'Mass Effect' in honor of what could have been.

Well, next year I guess.

 

[felipepepe]

Well, next year I guess.

You can still edit your post as much as you like until I close the voting on January 31st...

 

[Morality Games]

Well, next year I guess.

You can still edit your post as much as you like until I close the voting on January 31st...

I was, but it locked up on me. It doesn't mattrer anyway. In the grand scheme of things 1 more point to Mass Effect and 1 less to Torment won't change the distribution.

 

[felipepepe]

(Notice the lack of Fallout 3, can't stand essential NPCs, linear story, almost no choices, useless stats (In NV the only relatively useless stat is Perception, in Fallout 3 they are Agility, Perception, Charisma, Luck), useless food/drink/beds, invincible companions, weightless ammunition, can't play pacifist, can't play psychopath (due to essentials), speech checks promoting save scumming)

This is the RPG Codex bro, you don't have to explain why you don't like Fallout 3, it's a given.

 

[Bubbles]

People really need to remember the glory that is Betrayal at Krondor.

Too much combat, not enough character progression

 

[nordbird]

(Notice the lack of Fallout 3, can't stand essential NPCs, linear story, almost no choices, useless stats (In NV the only relatively useless stat is Perception, in Fallout 3 they are Agility, Perception, Charisma, Luck), useless food/drink/beds, invincible companions, weightless ammunition, can't play pacifist, can't play psychopath (due to essentials), speech checks promoting save scumming)

This is the RPG Codex bro, you don't have to explain why you don't like Fallout 3, it's a given.

Glad hardcore RPG communities exist, RPGWatch seems to think Fallout 3 and Dragon Age 2 are hardcore RPGs.

By the way are you Brazilian? I am Peruvian myself. Not many Planescape: Torment or Fallout 1-2 fans here lol

 

[Sceptic]

Oh FFS. For once I decide to vote on those list thingies and you go and make a stupid point system. Sigh.

 

[felipepepe]

By the way are you Brazilian? I am Peruvian myself. Not many Planescape: Torment or Fallout 1-2 fans here lol

:hermano puño:

 

[I_am_Ian]

Glad hardcore RPG communities exist, RPGWatch seems to think Fallout 3 and Dragon Age 2 are hardcore RPGs.

What is RPGWatch?

 

[nordbird]

By the way are you Brazilian? I am Peruvian myself. Not many Planescape: Torment or Fallout 1-2 fans here lol

:hermano puño:

^^

 

[Gregz]

Glad hardcore RPG communities exist, RPGWatch seems to think Fallout 3 and Dragon Age 2 are hardcore RPGs.

What is RPGWatch?

It's where babby is formed.

 

[Broseph]

Glad hardcore RPG communities exist, RPGWatch seems to think Fallout 3 and Dragon Age 2 are hardcore RPGs.

What is RPGWatch?

 

[DragoFireheart]

I'm still butthurt that I can't vote for Dragon's Dogma.

felipepepe: You should allow me to give it a pity vote.

 

[funkadelik]

Maybe we should start separating single character and party-based RPGs.

Edit:

I'm still butthurt that I can't vote for Dragon's Dogma.

felipepepe: You should allow me to give it a pity vote.

Japanese developers have really started to outshine Western ARPGs such as Skyrim, Dragon Age 2, and Twitcher with glorious incline such as Dragon's Dogma and Demon/Dark Souls.

 

[felipepepe]

I find amusing just how many lurkers come out of hiding just to vote. Some register just for it, but most have almost year-old accounts with no posts and finally post now...

 

[Morality Games]

Maybe we should start separating single character and party-based RPGs.

Edit:

I'm still butthurt that I can't vote for Dragon's Dogma.

felipepepe: You should allow me to give it a pity vote.

Japanese developers have really started to outshine Western ARPGs such as Skyrim, Dragon Age 2, and Twitcher with glorious incline such as Dragon's Dogma and Demon/Dark Souls.

Yeah, well, let's see how Dark Souls II turns out before cracking open the champagne bottles.

 

[funkadelik]

Yeah, well, let's see how Dark Souls II turns out before cracking open the champagne bottles.

It can't be worse than DA:I or Twitcher 3.