Russian Kingdom Come Deliverance - Смута

[IDtenT]

Polish butthurt shouldn't be a reason to skirt Forum structure.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Another proof that the game (even if it will be one day created, which is more and more doubtful) won't be an RPG but rather an action adventure:

In this old article https://polskigamedev.pl/smuta-rosja-sfinansuje-gre-o-najezdzcach-z-polski/ from May 2022 the co-owner of the studio, Aleksiej Kopciew, states that their inspiration for the game was Ghost of Tsushima.

 

[Lord_Potato]

This thread is going places since it was discovered there is no game.

 

[jebsmoker]

leaked alpha build screenshots:

 

[SpaceWizardz]

Assuming there really is a game here and it's not a scam this thread should be kept in GRPG for exposure sake, pre-release discussion being dogshit is nothing new.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

The game will apparently describe the events of Time of Troubles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of_Troubles



https://smuta.games/

I'm sure there's a neat game tech demo behind all that bloom, but I'm not paying for it.

 

[Wunderbar]

but I'm not paying for it.

 

[Harthwain]

Another proof that the game (even if it will be one day created, which is more and more doubtful) won't be an RPG but rather an action adventure:

In this old article https://polskigamedev.pl/smuta-rosja-sfinansuje-gre-o-najezdzcach-z-polski/ from May 2022 the co-owner of the studio, Aleksiej Kopciew, states that their inspiration for the game was Ghost of Tsushima.

Just because Ghost of Tsushima is an inspiration doesn't mean it can't be an RPG. Or have RPG elements and end up being aRPG. Some sites suggest as much:

According to Vyacheslav Makarov, who oversees the development of the action RPG “Smuta”, any “established game studio” can make a drone control simulator. He pointed out that remote controls for drones are similar to gamepads, so the development of games for them should not cause great difficulties.

Source: https://wnhub.io/news/art/item-24941

Interestingly enough he talks about gamepads, which suggests targeting console market first and foremost (and would be in-line with Ghost of Tsushima as it seems to be a console-only title as well)? Or they want to scam their government by pretending they can make a drone controlling system by getting money to fund their game, saying it's "a video game simulator"? It's weird.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Another proof that the game (even if it will be one day created, which is more and more doubtful) won't be an RPG but rather an action adventure:

In this old article https://polskigamedev.pl/smuta-rosja-sfinansuje-gre-o-najezdzcach-z-polski/ from May 2022 the co-owner of the studio, Aleksiej Kopciew, states that their inspiration for the game was Ghost of Tsushima.

Just because Ghost of Tsushima is an inspiration doesn't mean it can't be an RPG. Or have RPG elements and end up being aRPG.

But nothing suggests it will be an arpg. We've seen some early footage of walking and fighting but no character screen or any suggestion there will be an advancement system.

Also the story seems to be fixed with little to no possibility of altering it with your choices.

Some sites suggest as much:

According to Vyacheslav Makarov, who oversees the development of the action RPG “Smuta”, any “established game studio” can make a drone control simulator. He pointed out that remote controls for drones are similar to gamepads, so the development of games for them should not cause great difficulties.

Source: https://wnhub.io/news/art/item-24941

Interestingly enough he talks about gamepads, which suggests targeting console market first and foremost (and would be in-line with Ghost of Tsushima as it seems to be a console-only title as well)? Or they want to scam their government by pretending they can make a drone controlling system by getting money to fund their game, saying it's "a video game simulator"? It's weird.

Drone control simulator seems to be another project of theirs. It's not a drone controlling system just a game in which you control drones with a gamepad. It does not suggest the platform on which Smuta will be developed/ported to.

 

[Harthwain]

But nothing suggests it will be an arpg. We've seen some early footage of walking and fighting but no character screen or any suggestion there will be an advancement system.

My Russian is horrible (my Google Translate is excellent though!), but the developers' site says it's "a historical Action RPG" (историческую Action RPG). We shall see how true this is when we'll see more of the actual gameplay.

Source: https://smuta.games/?ref=vgtimes

 

[Lord_Potato]

But nothing suggests it will be an arpg. We've seen some early footage of walking and fighting but no character screen or any suggestion there will be an advancement system.

My Russian is horrible (my Google Translate is excellent though!), but the developers' site says it's "a historical Action RPG" (историческую Action RPG). We shall see how true this is when we'll see more of the actual gameplay.

Source: https://smuta.games/?ref=vgtimes

I hope there will be some rpg meat on those bones. If the game ever gets released, of course. Until then we are left with a glorious shitposting arena.

 

[Harthwain]

How come you guys didn't shit up this thread as well: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...ements-set-in-alt-19th-century-russia.135779/

"Shit up"? I'd argue we are more on topic here than most.

As for why not:

1) I had no idea that game even existed.

2) I don't see the point in necroposting. Maybe I will if something new related to the project will get revealed. And that's a pretty big maybe, considering the Kickstarter for that game got cancelled (probably because it has failed to meet its funding goal).

3) I am not that fond of the Napoleonic era in general. I do like it a bit more than I used to, but mainly in terms of strategy/tactics. Furthermore it does not seem suited for an RPG where you play as a soldier running around "poor and destitute backwater villages". Give me a big city instead.

 

[Harthwain]

Kony hates everything red with a passion. But Kony also understands that REEEEing is not as effective as making a disinterested face and saying it was just boring. Give Kony some credit.

Yeah, I am not buying that. He's said "interesting setting" and criticized the gameplay, which is the kind of criticism that can be rised against any game like this (like Bioshock), meaning he's obviously not targeting the game itself because it's "red". He just doesn't like the gameplay. Nothing wrong about that.

Anyway, no Polish butthurt (that @Camel was insinuating) in Atomic Heart thread detected.

Some people see what they want to see, not what is.

From my experience the Codex as a whole appreciates Eastern European developers more, because they tend to be less concerned with being too politically correct and focused more on making games (I could name some games from Bohemia, Hungary, Poland and Russia). You will find exceptions from that rule (I bet somebody would mention Owlcat or CDPR), but exceptions prove the rule. It goes doubly so for indies, because they don't have money to waste on matters that aren't critical for their games (again, you'll probably be able to find some exceptions).

Honestly, I doubt this game would spark much controversy in the pre-war times. It's not like this period of history is unknown. Hell, I bet we would end up with some dry "a Russian studio makes a historical RPG about the Time of Troubles" statement and nobody would be surprised that in a war two sides are trying to kill each other. It's too far removed from the modern times to spark any controversy on its own. Which is why it's spiced up to provoke outrage. It's a classic clickbait and internet sites live off the clicks.

 

[Reinhardt]

can you kill potatos in atomic heart?

 

[Arbiter]

can you kill potatos in atomic heart?

Medieval: Total War, Empire: Total War, Europa Universalis or Civilization series might be your cup of tea.

 

[Azdul]

best part - every codex potato will play it. i mean THERE ARE POTATOS IN DIS GAEM! how often someone even notice them and include in the game even as enemies?

As much as I admire unbounded ambition of Russian games - they often have intrusive DRM and are always left unpatched - because someone will always run away with money to establish new company.

Most Polish or German games are eventually playable - after approximately decade of patching. Maybe one day Russian games will reach that standard - and then I'll start buying them. 'Agenda' they try to push does not matter to me.

When it comes to Смута - it kind of reminds me of Russian Baldur's Gate killer:

which went throught few titles and even more companies:

to be eventually cancelled.

Смута also looks like tech demo - not like vertical slice of gameplay to sell the idea to serious investor. Tech demos are a dime a dozen - and in 99% of cases nothing comes out of them.

 

[Lord_Potato]

best part - every codex potato will play it. i mean THERE ARE POTATOS IN DIS GAEM! how often someone even notice them and include in the game even as enemies?

As much as I admire unbounded ambition of Russian games - they often have intrusive DRM and are always left unpatched - because someone will always run away with money to establish new company.

Most Polish or German games are eventually playable - after approximately decade of patching. Maybe one day Russian games will reach that standard - and then I'll start buying them. 'Agenda' they try to push does not matter to me.

When it comes to Смута - it kind of reminds me of Russian Baldur's Gate killer:

which went throught few titles and even more companies:

to be eventually cancelled.

Смута also looks like tech demo - not like vertical slice of gameplay to sell the idea to serious investor. Tech demos are a dime a dozen - and in 99% of cases nothing comes out of them.

The second screenshot comes from a Russian Stormbringer game which was in develompent around the end of 1990s - I assume produced without any effort to purchase rights to the actual Moorcock's IP anyway, nothing came out of the project. A pity, cause the screenshot looks stylish.

 

[Camel]

I imagine helpless butthurt of polacks when Atomic heart became a smashing success. Potatoes and many others have a pipe dream wanting everything Russian and Soviet to be cancelled.

I think you might be imagining things. I haven't seen a single Pole uttering a word about Atomic Heart. And the respective thread in General Gaming is pretty dead, with last comments from March: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...lternate-universe-soviet-union.118071/page-24

Ok, I found Konjad comment:

Tried to play it. Interesting setting, and I don't mind the English VO, they are fine as they are. However, the gameplay is just boring to me. Walk around, whack things and watch cutscenes/listen to audio logs. I guess if you like games akin to Bioshock then you'll like it, but if you're not into such then meh.

Hardly a venomous comment from someone butthurt, simply a declaration of désintéressement.

Well, but that's not only Kony. The fact that last comment comes from March seems to indicate Codexers either don't play Atomic Heart or simply don't care about it enough to drop a comment on the subject.

Anyway, no Polish butthurt (that @Camel was insinuating) in Atomic Heart thread detected.

Let's start from the beginning. What Atomic Heart is, rather all gaming enthusiasts already know - just a game with a communism theme, which promises to be quite good. That's what I thought too until recently.
Publishers? In addition to Xbox, 4Divinity and Focus Entertainment, VK Play is also on the list. Yes, it's that Russian Facebook again (Maxim Zatsepin's former workplace), this time their gaming department, no less involved in the propaganda machine than VK itself. Short conclusion? By purchasing Atomic Heart, you support Russia and its shady interests, including its invasion of Ukraine. Atomic Heart supports Putin. We already know that, but ... what next?
Another thing is that in order to rate a game, you have to buy it (funding the Russian war machine), and returns often "do not work" for larger productions, despite meeting Steam's conditions.

https://gamesguru.pl/atomic-heart-czyli-prorosyjska-gra-fundowana-przez-brudne-pieniadze-oligarchow/
Courtesy of Google Translate.

 

[Krivol]

If that Cmyta game will be good I would play it and kill potatos in it even if money is directly transfered to Wagner's group. Good historical games are as rare as real pussy in codexer basement so...

 

[Lord_Potato]

I imagine helpless butthurt of polacks when Atomic heart became a smashing success. Potatoes and many others have a pipe dream wanting everything Russian and Soviet to be cancelled.

I think you might be imagining things. I haven't seen a single Pole uttering a word about Atomic Heart. And the respective thread in General Gaming is pretty dead, with last comments from March: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...lternate-universe-soviet-union.118071/page-24

Ok, I found Konjad comment:

Tried to play it. Interesting setting, and I don't mind the English VO, they are fine as they are. However, the gameplay is just boring to me. Walk around, whack things and watch cutscenes/listen to audio logs. I guess if you like games akin to Bioshock then you'll like it, but if you're not into such then meh.

Hardly a venomous comment from someone butthurt, simply a declaration of désintéressement.

Well, but that's not only Kony. The fact that last comment comes from March seems to indicate Codexers either don't play Atomic Heart or simply don't care about it enough to drop a comment on the subject.

Anyway, no Polish butthurt (that @Camel was insinuating) in Atomic Heart thread detected.

Let's start from the beginning. What Atomic Heart is, rather all gaming enthusiasts already know - just a game with a communism theme, which promises to be quite good. That's what I thought too until recently.
Publishers? In addition to Xbox, 4Divinity and Focus Entertainment, VK Play is also on the list. Yes, it's that Russian Facebook again (Maxim Zatsepin's former workplace), this time their gaming department, no less involved in the propaganda machine than VK itself. Short conclusion? By purchasing Atomic Heart, you support Russia and its shady interests, including its invasion of Ukraine. Atomic Heart supports Putin. We already know that, but ... what next?
Another thing is that in order to rate a game, you have to buy it (funding the Russian war machine), and returns often "do not work" for larger productions, despite meeting Steam's conditions.

https://gamesguru.pl/atomic-heart-czyli-prorosyjska-gra-fundowana-przez-brudne-pieniadze-oligarchow/
Courtesy of Google Translate.

Still don't see any butthurt, just stating facts. Companies producing and publishing Atomic Heart had connections witg Gazprom and other Russian state or parastate actors. People can do what they want with facts.

 

[Camel]

Still don't see any butthurt, just stating facts. Companies producing and publishing Atomic Heart had connections witg Gazprom and other Russian state or parastate actors. People can do what they want with facts.

By purchasing Atomic Heart, you support Russia and its shady interests, including its invasion of Ukraine. Atomic Heart supports Putin. We already know that, but ... what next?
Another thing is that in order to rate a game, you have to buy it (funding the Russian war machine)

This is retarded butthurt and these are not facts but a stupid opinion. A low quality article even by gaming journalism's non-existent standards.

 

[jebsmoker]

Still don't see any butthurt, just stating facts. Companies producing and publishing Atomic Heart had connections witg Gazprom and other Russian state or parastate actors. People can do what they want with facts.

By purchasing Atomic Heart, you support Russia and its shady interests, including its invasion of Ukraine. Atomic Heart supports Putin. We already know that, but ... what next?
Another thing is that in order to rate a game, you have to buy it (funding the Russian war machine)

This is retarded butthurt and these are not facts but a stupid opinion. A low quality article even by gaming journalism's non-existent standards.

all sales taxes fund various things the government needs $$$money$$$ for lmao. this could range from infrastructure to the military

 

[Lord_Potato]

Still don't see any butthurt, just stating facts. Companies producing and publishing Atomic Heart had connections witg Gazprom and other Russian state or parastate actors. People can do what they want with facts.

By purchasing Atomic Heart, you support Russia and its shady interests, including its invasion of Ukraine. Atomic Heart supports Putin. We already know that, but ... what next?
Another thing is that in order to rate a game, you have to buy it (funding the Russian war machine)

This is retarded butthurt and these are not facts but a stupid opinion. A low quality article even by gaming journalism's non-existent standards.

You seem upset by the obvious statement - buying a Russian game financed by Russian companies fills the coffers of the Kremlin. That's not an opinion. Taxation is a thing you know.

 

[Camel]

all sales taxes fund various things the government needs $$$money$$$ for lmao. this could range from infrastructure to the military

So were the German and Polish Jews funding the Wehrmacht war machine?

buying a Russian game financed by Russian companies fills the coffers of the Kremlin. That's not an opinion. Taxation is a thing you know.

That's what I said about polacks being butthurt by Atomic Heart. Thank you for proving my point.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Profits from the game are taxed and land in the Russian treasury. Basic economy.

By buying polack games you support PIS coffers