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Perkel

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3.18 is the patch with the vulkan shit that's supposedly going to improve performance by a fuck ton, the one that was hopefully coming out last year according to Anally Drilled Lardass, right?

Gen12 renderer (they are going away completely with cryengine renderer), vulcan will come in 3.19 i think or 4.0. Gen12 is supposed to give them a way to add other stuff like VRS, Raytracing, DLSS2/3 etc. It does provide performance bumb but current release is just 1:1 feature with old render and now they will be optimizing stuff + adding more stuff.

As for 3.18 the main feature of it is persistence and cargo refactor. Everything is persistent now and cargo is fully physicalized. So if you down cargo ship over planet or in space all that cargo will be staying there until someone will pick it up or server crashes/restarts.

Ships also can be now disabled instead of blown up in combat. Which means you can loot and fight with crew. It also disables gravity on ship so in case of hole in ship cargo might float out of ship and pirates will have to comb desert for loot.

In summary not that much new content but pretty fundamental changes to gameplay.

Shitload of bugs from what i read though.
 

Myobi

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Lol, over a decade and half a billion and the biggest brag about it is:

“But look how much money we keep dumping on it!”

With a sprinkle of “...and under the right weather conditions I can get 60FPS!”.


Well, on the bright side 1-2 years left for the release my boiiiis!!!

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WhiskeyWolf

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With a sprinkle of “...and under the right weather conditions I can get 60FPS!”.
This game was being made in mind with hardware that would be available 20 years in the future. Imagine playing SC on a Quad-core and a GTX 560.

Truly a visionary project, we have to at least give them that.
 

ADL

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Lol, over a decade and half a billion and the biggest brag about it is:

“But look how much money we keep dumping on it!”
It's not the biggest brag. It's just my favorite one :mixedemotions: (me in back)
With a sprinkle of “...and under the right weather conditions I can get 60FPS!”.
More like minor dips into the 60s in landing zones (the most intensive part of the game) at 4K on 3.17 featuring the previous renderer. Most of the time I play I'm well over 100-120FPS at 3840x2160 max settings, volumetric clouds and all. Not sure what memory at what speeds this benchmark is running or if it's even installed on a NVMe drive but it seems comparable to the experience I have with the same CPU/GPU. Feels good man.


Not saying performance is acceptable overall. You shouldn't need 3D v-cache and a $1600 graphics card to play the game at this level but I'd imagine after accounting for the Vulkan renderer and some optimization passes, this is what you should be able to expect on any Zen 2 system with RDNA/RTX graphics cards. 24-32GB system memory is probably always going to be the floor though and with memory being as cheap as it is I don't see why anyone would stay at 16.
 

ADL

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That's because it is entirely playable and there's a lot to do. When you have a good enough PC to run it that is. Used to be you had to have luck joining a good server before it shat itself. Still happens once in a while but majority of the time first server I join is good for the 4-5 hours I play at a time.
 

Myobi

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It's not the biggest brag. It's just my favorite one :mixedemotions: (me in back)

People proud of themselves for throwing half a billion dollars to a dude that gave them 10% of a bridge after a decade... its indeed you in the back, and whatever is left of your dignity in the front.

More like minor dips into the 60s in landing zones (the most intensive part of the game) at 4K on 3.17 featuring the previous renderer. Most of the time I play I'm well over 100-120FPS at 3840x2160 max settings, volumetric clouds and all. Not sure what memory at what speeds this benchmark is running or if it's even installed on a NVMe drive but it seems comparable to the experience I have with the same CPU/GPU. Feels good man.


Not saying performance is acceptable overall. You shouldn't need 3D v-cache and a $1600 graphics card to play the game at this level but I'd imagine after accounting for the Vulkan renderer and some optimization passes, this is what you should be able to expect on any Zen 2 system with RDNA/RTX graphics cards. 24-32GB system memory is probably always going to be the floor though and with memory being as cheap as it is I don't see why anyone would stay at 16.

Cool story bro : )

That's because it is entirely playable and there's a lot to do

roflmao.
 

JamesDixon

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That's because it is entirely playable and there's a lot to do. When you have a good enough PC to run it that is. Used to be you had to have luck joining a good server before it shat itself. Still happens once in a while but majority of the time first server I join is good for the 4-5 hours I play at a time.

iu
 

Myobi

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This game was being made in mind with hardware that would be available 20 years in the future. Imagine playing SC on a Quad-core and a GTX 560.

Truly a visionary project, we have to at least give them that.

LOL "20 years", ain't you an optimistic one.

We are now on the 11th year I believe? "$550 million" deep. The very foundations of the project are still missing. The FIRST chapter of the single player campaign nowhere to be seen. A big chunk of the “content” that keeps getting added is just “concept” shit, that idiots like A Dumb Looser here take pride on spending thousands of dollars on, just to show “dem haters” how successful the damn thing is.

These people have their own heads so far deep up their own ass that they believe that spending a fuck ton of cash on “microtransactions” in a “alpha” video game as some kind of victory over the people who laugh of them for doing so, meanwhile years keep flying by and CiG still struggling to make fucking elevators work properly... Chris Roberts will be 90, snorting cocaine out of some luxurious hooker ass on his fancy gold plated yacht, and you'll have the same fanboys telling you 1-2 years tops, while CiG still ponders with the project half done if it wouldn't just be better to replace elevators with stairs.
 

ADL

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People proud of themselves for throwing half a billion dollars to a dude that gave them 10% of a bridge after a decade
10% of the Kickstarter? Absolutely delusional. What people don't realize is that the game was crowdfunding about six months prior to the Kickstarter. By the Kickstarter's end, it had raised $6.2 million. Here is the $6 million stretch goal.

Star Citizen will launch with 100 star systems.
The single system we have in the game now is a thousand times more detailed than the Kickstarted version of the game's 100 systems combined. That's not a cope. That's a fucking fact. We have planets now. We have atmospheric flight, landing zones, cave systems, outposts and rivers within them. Originally the planets were just gonna be skyboxes.

What are the chances that you're right and everyone else is wrong on a crowdfunded game ten years later that's holding multiple free play events a year and continues to break funding records? And you are wrong.

For such a supposedly prestigious forum, there sure are a lot of plebs getting filtered by muh immersion.
That's because it is entirely playable and there's a lot to do. When you have a good enough PC to run it that is. Used to be you had to have luck joining a good server before it shat itself. Still happens once in a while but majority of the time first server I join is good for the 4-5 hours I play at a time.

iu
Replace that tank with carbon monoxide and that's exactly how I imagine the dipshits such as yourself who spent the better part of their adolescence/adult lives insisting upon themselves that Star Citizen would be bad and that it would fail.

Two more weeks though right? Whatever you say schizos
The very foundations of the project are still missing. The FIRST chapter of the single player campaign nowhere to be seen. A big chunk of the “content” that keeps getting added is just “concept” shit, that idiots like A Dumb Looser here take pride on spending thousands of dollars on, just to show “dem haters” how successful the damn thing is.
The very foundations? That sounds serious. Unfortunately for you, it isn't true and the game(s) in every regard have been greatly expanded. Squadron 42 was merely a prologue to the MMO with some singleplayer/cooperative missions to introduce the setting to players. It has since been expanded into a standalone retail product. A playable version of the greatly expanded MMO has been playable for seven years and for the previous five years, it's practically been operating as a live service receiving quarterly content and feature releases delivering well beyond what was promised when I backed it.

Also I'm the furthest thing from a whale. $37 on the Kickstarter total spent yet I'm flying ships "worth hundreds of dollars" every wipe cycle because they're so fucking easy to earn. Wouldn't be the first time people bought shit they didn't need. You of all people should understand given how much you suck YoshiP's cock in FFXIV threads.
 
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JamesDixon

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Replace that tank with carbon monoxide and that's exactly how I imagine the dipshits such as yourself who spent the better part of their adolescence/adult lives insisting upon themselves that Star Citizen would be bad and that it would fail.

Two more weeks though right? Whatever you say schizos

You sound butthurt cultist. What's the matter Alex do you hate it when people make fun of your poor decisions? You'll be dead before this vertical slice will be finished.

:butthurt::butthurt::butthurt::butthurt::butthurt::butthurt::butthurt::butthurt::butthurt::butthurt::butthurt::butthurt::butthurt::butthurt:
 

Myobi

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10% of the Kickstarter? Absolutely delusional. What people don't realize is that the game was crowdfunding about six months prior to the Kickstarter. By the Kickstarter's end, it had raised $6.2 million. Here is the $6 million stretch goal.
No you fucking crayon gobbler, the bridge is a George C. Parker related joke and the 10% it's just a random shit number just to point out that they are not even half done considering the shit they promised.

The single system we have in the game now is a thousand times more detailed than the Kickstarted version of the game's 100 systems combined. That's not a cope. That's a fucking fact. We have planets now. We have atmospheric flight, landing zones, cave systems, outposts and rivers within them. Originally the planets were just gonna be skyboxes.

What are the chances that you're right and everyone else is wrong on a crowdfunded game ten years later that's holding multiple free play events a year and continues to break funding records? And you are wrong.

For such a supposedly prestigious forum, there sure are a lot of plebs getting filtered by muh immersion.

"The single system we have out of the 100 promised at launch is a bazillion times more detailed as it was 10 fucking years ago! Before it was just place holders! Now there actually things in it!"


Dear fucking lord, the fact that you have lasted so long without choking on your own spit so far is fucking impressive.

Replace that tank with carbon monoxide and that's exactly how I imagine the dipshits such as yourself who spent the better part of their adolescence/adult lives insisting upon themselves that Star Citizen would be bad and that it would fail.
Guys, please stop poking fun at the video game, you are triggering the poor thing again.

The very foundations? That sounds serious. Unfortunately for you, it isn't true
Oh shit, server meshing was already released and no one warned me? Because I'm pretty sure that the entire "MMO" part of the fucking thing was riding on it.

Plus, people like you have been using it as an excuse for shit not working properly for a decade now, so, you know...

Squadron 42 was merely a prologue to the MMO with some singleplayer/cooperative missions to introduce the setting to players. It has since been expanded into a standalone retail product.
We know buddy, we know...

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A playable version of the greatly expanded MMO
...expanded... massive multiplayer online... that struggles to host 100 players.

Have you guys heard about PUBG and Fornite? Crazy MMOs right there.
it's practically been operating as a live service

It's practically a “live service” when it's convenient, as soon people start criticizing it as such, it instantly reverts to “It's just an alpha!”.

Also I'm the furthest thing from a whale.

You sure seem to get extremely butthurt over people mocking this shit for someone who is the "furthest thing from a whale".


You tell them girl! How dare you guys shitting on my $40.000 gameplay impacting microtransactions in a alpha game when you mother fuckers are spending $20 of dem cat girl langeries in a video game with thousands of hours worth of content released 10 years ago! You bunch of dumb cock suckers! JUST LEAVE CHRIS ROBERTS ALONE, AND I MEAN IT! *sniffles
 

LarryTyphoid

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Why'd they make it an MMO, anyway? Shit fucking sucks. Main reason I haven't played Elite Dangerous. Singleplayer is king.
 

Angthoron

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Man, it's threads like these that are the reason I love Scam Citizer.

More content and emotion than that thing will ever have.
 
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Why'd they make it an MMO, anyway? Shit fucking sucks. Main reason I haven't played Elite Dangerous. Singleplayer is king.

The singleplayer campaign was the selling point of the original kickstarter. It was going to be Freelancer 2.0, and if you still had interest after beating the campaign then you would have been able to dabble in some multiplayer and set up your servers, just like Freelancer. But after the kickstarter was successful, Chris kept tacking on stretch goals for the multiplayer, and eventually the scope of the multiplayer wound up hijacking the focus of the project. The singleplayer campaign is stuck in development hell. It's been rebooted at least twice and the last time SC really talked about it was in 2019. CIG isn't saying anything because they have nothing good to say. SC fans have been coping with "the devs are working hard on it in secret and it's going to release soon™!" mantra.
 

Myobi

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Why'd they make it an MMO, anyway? Shit fucking sucks. Main reason I haven't played Elite Dangerous.
.... wut? If I remember well Elite Dangárus is a 32 max player multiplayer game and has an option to play in a private instance, just by yourself/with friends.

To make sure I didn't back it on kickstarter.

As Val said, the original plan was for it to be like Freelancer, a singleplayer campaign with a multiplayer option:

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Then they found out how much easier it is to milk retards by selling them concept art by slapping an MMO tag on it.
 

Angthoron

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It's a bit like Fortnite except Fortnite actually exists.

And you can run it on your phone.

And play it with (optionally your own) kids.

Unlike Star Citizen, which doesn't really exist (It's in alpha!), can only run properly on a NASA computer, and the player base is probably greybeards by this point.
 

Ol' Willy

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Imagine if the game is finished (okay, okay, hold your laughter for a minute boyos)

And it will be, obviously, "game as a service", being useless without the server.

So people, old now, but happy to finally play the fucking game.

And then servers die

Oopsie!
 

Myobi

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