There are just millions of games today. Used to be you could buy a newspaper and read it for half an hour and you knew all the news. Nowadays that's not possible. You're either a front page headline or you're "and the rest".
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Commandos-Like Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun - Commandos clone with ninjutsu theme
- Thread starter Taka-Haradin puolipeikko
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Either they are blind to it or don't want to acknowledge it aloud, but if you ask me a sizeable chunk of their problems with "reach" could be related to their shitty title. "Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun" not only sounds like some shovelware shitgame, it's also misleading as hell - with all the other "XXX TACTICS" games out there, it makes it sound like another neuxcom clone. If I didn't hear about the game on the 'dex and saw the title somewhere, I'd probably just ignore it completely and keep scrolling.
You say that as if there were a large number of nuXCOM clones :D
It's so indie it's being voted for a year other than the one it was released in. Fight the power!
zool
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Seriously, this is great news. They already have the engine ready, they got the gameplay right - no need to change anything there - and a dedicated fanbase. Now all they have to do is to change the setting, keep the same production value and cash in!
Roman empire would be great but there are a lot of other exciting options too.
Shadow Tactics is currently 50% off on Steam. Commandos successor? Must be time for a new stealth game!
http://lmgtfy.com/?s=d&q=shadow+tactics+unity
...SIGH. I run this check for absolutely every game I consider buying now, and most of the time, this pops up. You can escape AAA, and you can escape Unity, but you rarely can escape both.
http://lmgtfy.com/?s=d&q=shadow+tactics+unity
...SIGH. I run this check for absolutely every game I consider buying now, and most of the time, this pops up. You can escape AAA, and you can escape Unity, but you rarely can escape both.
Krivol
Magister
It's still great game
Kitchen Utensil
Guest
Yes it is. Definitely recommended, despite Unitiy
Reminds me of my experience with Commandos and similar games.
I tried a few times to get into them, but it really is just: Try something, fail, reload, try something else, fail, reload, ... you can eventually progress through the game like that and if you are not mentally challenged you will have less reloading the better you get.
But what is supposed to be fun about the experience I never understood, these games have always been somewhere between boring and frustrating to me.
Good that there are people who like them, though. Keeps Daedalic afloat, which means that they might eventually produce another game that I like.
have you considered that mayhap you are playing it wrong
What is there to play wrong? It's not like these games are the pinnacle of complexity.
Even if I didn't have to reload at all (or rarely) and everything went just fine:
I just don't understand why anyone has fun with that.
But I don't understand why people do a lot of things. Like soccer, looking at cars, getting wasted...
Maybe I'm just strange
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and yet...
Turned based would make it way too easy and there is a quick action/shadow mode where you can queue actions and execute them at the right moment. It's the perfect balance. Besides, games like these stimulate your brain: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4130645/
BTW, it always triggers me that games like these get negative reviews for being too hard:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/beats2reason/recommended/418240/
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198039072934/recommended/418240/
etc.
So?
That's how you learn in games, at least at the beginning.
Fail, reload, do it better. Fail at the next thing, reload, do it better. At some point you have pretty much done it all (or enough to know how something new could work) and don't need to reload that often any more.
Why am I explaining this to you? Have you ever played a game before?
In these particular games, I just don't see the fun in the concept.
While you are learning the ropes, it is pretty frustrating.
Once you get what is going on, it becomes boring.
In contrast to other games, there was never anything in-between, at least not for me.
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- THE ONLY WAY TO PLAY THIS KIND OF GAME IS EXCESSIVE SAVESCUMMING
- uh maybe you suck
- WOT U MEAN, ITS NOT LIKE DIS IS PINNACLE OF COMPLEXITY (ALSO I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW I FINISHED DARK SOULS, THE MOST DIFFICULT GAME, OVER 7 TIMES)
- and yet you have to savescum this all the time
- YEAH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME WOTS WRONG WITH U MEN :^)
ok
- uh maybe you suck
- WOT U MEAN, ITS NOT LIKE DIS IS PINNACLE OF COMPLEXITY (ALSO I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW I FINISHED DARK SOULS, THE MOST DIFFICULT GAME, OVER 7 TIMES)
- and yet you have to savescum this all the time
- YEAH LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME WOTS WRONG WITH U MEN :^)
ok
On their forums you can read that they're currently working on another Commandos clone, although not on ST 2. My bet is on Amazons:
I love how you completely ignore any point I made to focus on the one point that I never made
That's not a strawman, it's a straw castle with straw guards wielding straw pikes.
Are you the straw king?
Okay... For the odd chance that you're not just shitposting and really just had a stroke and your brain is lacking some oxygen:
The only thing I said about save scumming was that it is the only way to proceed in those games when you are new to them. Which should be kinda obvious, given that you know nothing about the rules yet. Same for almost any game, so the only weird thing about my statement is that it is so obvious it is probably unnecessary to say.
Anyway, after that initial time, you know how everything works (how people move, typical patrols, etc.) and the games become boring as fuck - I mean, come on! Send a few people around, knock out single opponents at a time, wait until you can move unseen, do some objectives. Yawn. Where is the challenge here?
Hence my wonder that anyone derives any joy from them, but maybe they do it for the story? Like playing an adventure game - I could understand that.
PS: I DID beat Dark Souls! In contrast to these games, it actually required a modicum of skill and attention.
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Uh-oh, the fanboys are coming. Better dig in!
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and wearing straw hats
I never said it wasn't. There are such things as good games developed with shitty engines, like say New Vegas for example, but Unity is utter trash and its ubiquitousness is becoming REALLY obnoxious.
That's literally how the game was designed to be played. The developers have said so, the tutorial tells you so, the UI flashes a quicksave timer at players unless you opt out of it, and the way the puzzles are set up (for a puzzle game is what this game is, essentially) encourages it.
Not a swinging Richard on the Codex has ever finished this game the first time through without either loading a few times on most or all stages, or sitting around like a pillock for minutes making absolutely sure they've accounted for everything before leaving the bushes.
Is it POSSIBLE? Yes, but only for someone who's already very experienced. Right here you're the equivalent of some faggot bragging that he can beat so-and-so action game without taking a single hit, headshotting every enemy, etc. Your mouth is writing checks your ass can't actually cash for the purpose of winning some gay argument.
adddeed
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What is with this retardation? These games will be completely different beast turn based, ie, shit. The challenge lies in them being real time and using the tools to get through. They are a mix between puzzle and tactics. Make them turn based and you have to redo the whole game and how it works.
Bunch of retards complaining while knowing nothing.
Bunch of retards complaining while knowing nothing.
Shadow Tactics is 50% off on GOG:
https://af.gog.com/game/shadow_tactics_blades_of_the_shogun?as=1649904300
https://af.gog.com/game/shadow_tactics_blades_of_the_shogun?as=1649904300
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