Shadowrun Shadowrun Returns - Dead Man's Switch Original Campaign

[Kron]

Seriously, it looks, feels, is written and plays like a fucking Iphone game man.
This is the beggining of the incline that we so desired?

 

[Darth Roxor]

I love when someone says "IT'S LIKE AN IPHONE GAME"

It's a lovely retard indicator.

 

[Metro]

At the very least it makes for some great new Codex avatars~

 

[Infinitron]

Why should we be disappointed about something we saw coming months ago?

HEY, I noticed there's no 100 page thread raging about how Call of Duty isn't a isometric turn-based RPG with choices and consequences! HOLY SHIT THAT MEANS THE CODEX LOVES CALL OF DUTY!!!

 

[Metro]

Guys, guys, guys...

Spoiler

THE EDITOR WILL SAVE IT!

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Yeah, dudes. It's so pathetic that I'm having fun playing this fun game which cost me a whopping ten bucks. And yeah, what a waste of SO MUCH money to have a fun time...regardless of scope. What's pathetic are the neckbeards acting like a ten dollar dent in their lives is a fucking travesty. What's pathetic is expecting much more than we got from a small budget, short development cycle.

Could it be better? Of course. Is it still worth the money? Christ, you pathetically impoverished retards, YES.

 

[Metro]

I swear if I hear 'small budget' one more time...

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

You're going to what? Do something somebody cares about?

It's a relatively small budget and short development cycle insofar as what many people in this thread seem to have expected from the game. Tell me it's not. Go ahead, be that idiot.

 

[Infinitron]

IMO the only people who might have a right to be pissed off are those who spent large sums of money in the Kickstarter campaign, in the expectation of getting a "full scale" RPG. To those people I would suggest selling their physical editions when they arrive - I'm sure they'll be worth quite a bit on eBay.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

To those people, I'd suggest researching the point of pledging to a Kickstarter campaign.

I think, if anything, what we might learn from all of this KS business is that a game which meets peoples' expectations of scale cannot be done under a certain dollar and year/month amount. I'm not convinced the KS model cannot work though. I'll happily buy $10 games like Shadowrun Returns as long as they're being made. Worth more than any similarly-priced DLC I've ever seen.

 

[Metro]

You're going to what? Do something somebody cares about?

It's a relatively small budget and short development cycle insofar as what many people in this thread seem to have expected from the game. Tell me it's not. Go ahead, be that idiot.

I'm going to... keep mocking people who say it. Misallocated budget, perhaps. Also, calm down. To Infi's point I, personally, am not pissed. Merely calling a spade a spade.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

IMO the only people who might have a right to be pissed off are those who spent large sums of money in the Kickstarter campaign, in the expectation of getting a "full scale" RPG. To those people I would suggest selling their physical editions when they arrive - I'm sure they'll be worth quite a bit on eBay somewhere in 2027, when people forget about it.

Fixed.

 

[Roguey]

Seriously, it looks, feels, is written and plays like a fucking Iphone game man.
This is the beggining of the incline that we so desired?

They never said they were attempting to revive classic computer role playing gameplay unlike inXile, Obsidian, Brenda Romero, etc. The pitch appealed to nostalgia of the setting, and the SNES and Genesis games (particularly the SNES version).

 

[Shadenuat]

- Ranged weaponry is truly ace in this game, I doubt anyone could survive sniper spam, or snipers, wizard and maybe shaman. I'd grab ranged weaponry for any character except battle mages.

Shotgun blast in the face works like a charm too.

Yeah and with +hit buffs in-the-face part is't even that relevant. SMG is fine too

I'm playing female decker called Nordom now I invested 6 in Decking and got +1 AP for my drone (so 6 Decking, 6 drone control, 3 body and 3 ranged&pistols). Drones are pretty good, but I really need more slots. I guess I'll take a little close combat to unlock 4th weapon slot to carry pistol, deck and 2 drones. I also changed difficulty from normal to very hard, but can't find any difference so far (now storming ugly elf's lab).

 

[toro]

There are actually some funny things about the main campaign that you can find in the editor.

Spoiler

Apparently, the raid on Telestrian's office was first supposed to be before hitting the Universal Brotherhood base. In fact, the raid was supposed to get Samedi killed and that would make Marie Louise butthurt enough to call Lynne to get her to the Brotherhood. There's one leftover of that still in the game - once you get to Telestrian's estate, there's a dialogue with M-L that says Samedi got busted during the run, completely out of the blue.

There are also traces of at least two full missions that got cut, and goddammit both actually sound kinda cool. One is after the UB infiltration, and I suspect has something to do with looking for Aegis samples? Looks like it's a Telestrian laboratory infiltration, with hacking cameras, using labcoats as disguises, etc. This is a set of 3 entire scenes cut from the game - the last in-game scene is labled c17, then there's c18 with cut dialogue, and then there's a gap until c21 which is again in-game. Whether c18-c20 were all one mission or three different ones is unknown

And then there's another one, which sounds fun as FUCK. One thing is that it mentions ghouls incoming. And the second is "do you want to place this turret here, y/n?", so it must be some sort of ghoul siege zombie apocalypse defence scenario. These are scenes labled 23-24, which is right before the final assault on the bug hive (25).

Apparently, the starting retrospection about the botched run with Sam was supposed to be longer as well.

There's also a handful of leftover cut dialogues floating there.

dammit

This is Deus Ex stuff. The first mission, the second one is retarded.

 

[Psquit]

For fucke sake. its only 20$ hell even less if you preorder... what? to much for your Gamestop clerk job?! Notch charge for beta testing his shit an incomplete game written in Java. Jesus...

PD: if you actually spend 125+ on this then... fuck man...

 

[evdk]

To my everlasting shame I have to admit I am having my ass kicked while decking. I took the game's advice and hired Dodger, who either sucks terribly or I don't get the Matrix rules. I usually manage to fight my way to the final node and die like a sucker or with a bit of luck kill all the enemies, run out of time and get raped by black ice.

The rest of the team in the real world meanwhile turns the incoming kill teams into dog chow, so this is doubly irritating.

Any tips on how to suck less at l33t h4xx0ring?

 

[gromit]

Shotgun blast in the face works like a charm too.

Yeah and with +hit buffs in-the-face part is't even that relevant

Or without, even. Hell, the two notable abilities actively encourage keeping some space between you and the targets (and one of them helps you do it.)

There are probably better weapons for taking precise shots from across the screen, with better abilities to use for those kind of shots... but I'm happy that in specializing those, they didn't treat shotguns like melee weapons. You can still do some decent single-target damage at a distance, even though it's not what that's "for" in video-game land, when you have to (but you'll probably want the target area clear of friendlies.)

The "shotguns in RPGs" crown still belongs to New Vegas, just for letting you swap slugs and shot.

 

[toro]

End game character (12h). Yes, I wasted quite a few karma points. In the beginning I could not decide between melee, range and spellcasting.

Bad stuff: Some levels are quite deserted: few quests, few things to do. The auto-save system, too easy on normal and somewhat confusing in the beginning. Quest compass.

So-and-so: Melee seems to be under-developed compared to ranged combat. The UI could have been improved, but is ok with a little attention. Lack of ammo. Cannot into vertical dimension.

Good stuff: Story, characters, dialogues, atmosphere, multiple paths for some quests and a lot of options to develop your character. And above all: it's fun. Assault shotgun with burst is sweeeeett ...

Bottom line is that I want more. The game has potential to deliver some outstanding campaigns. Hats off to Harebrained Schemes. They did it. First inclined KS game for me.

 

[Chet Manly]

Lots of oldfags joining this thread; that's good to see. I pirated the fuck out of this game, and it's worth every dollar. The writing is great. Right from the get go you're interested in the story. Writing like this really makes me lament voice acting. You'd never achieve the same ends as you do with plain text.

The game is linear, no doubt. Not the end of the world. And I agree with Poetic's sentiment that it feels like a mobile game. That's a good call.

The editor is a slog. As if that's going to stop some aspie motherfuckers from making a decent module out of it. Good will come from it, I'm sure.

All I keep thinking is, motherfuck me, if they can do this on $1.2 mil what could they do with $20 mil? Something real decent I assume. No doubt. Developers have to up the ante on Kickstarter. That's what's next.

 

[Silva]

To my everlasting shame I have to admit I am having my ass kicked while decking.

Any tips on how to suck less at l33t h4xx0ring?

Practice here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koxlxlAwOA0

 

[toro]

To my everlasting shame I have to admit I am having my ass kicked while decking. I took the game's advice and hired Dodger, who either sucks terribly or I don't get the Matrix rules. I usually manage to fight my way to the final node and die like a sucker or with a bit of luck kill all the enemies, run out of time and get raped by black ice.

The rest of the team in the real world meanwhile turns the incoming kill teams into dog chow, so this is doubly irritating.

Any tips on how to suck less at l33t h4xx0ring?

Equip your Decker with assassin or shield ESPs. And use their abilities.

 

[Excidium]

How the hell do you people have multiple etiquettes?

 

[Shadenuat]

Yeah, use special programs, they work like summoning spells.

How the hell do you people have multiple etiquettes?

Every third or so charisma point unlocks a new one.

 

[Chet Manly]

Also - Roguey - you've got bonafide cock for brains.