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SMT: Nocturne

Discussion in 'jRPG Weeaboo Discussion' started by Silva, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. CyberModuled Savant

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    I get people's concerns about it (and how hardass ATLUS have been until recently), but I don't really buy the idea they'll instantly turncoat on PC because of a PS2 remaster selling poorly mostly since SEGA are breathing down their neck so more than likely they'll twist their arm for ports of some games even if ATLUS doesn't want to themselves. Both Nocturne and P5S being simultaneous PC release with the Western console version does set a precedent that they'll probably do it for a while so long as there isn't exclusivity string tied to it like SMT V. Plus from what I've skimmed of SEGA's own financial reports in the past, outside of namedropping specific game titles to specify sales, SEGA just seems to bundle SMT and Persona as "ATLUS' catalogue" in general.

    What I'm trying to say is, I really can't care to be fake pressured by game companies to buy an overpriced game I played over five years ago just to support theoretical future PC versions of games from a specific developer team (that are probably going to happen anyway) and remasters of older PS2 games that aren't even mentioned by ATLUS or SEGA yet.
     
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  2. Duraframe300 Arcane

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    Oh, don’t get me wrong. I’m fully on the *do not buy it* train (because they will learn nothing either from it if it is successful), just pointing out that they tend to draw the wrong conclusions.
     
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  3. Dishonoredbr Arbiter

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    Actually Atlus:

    Let's double down on making Persona and put Shin megami tensei in the fridge after SMTV.
     
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  4. TheSentinel Arcane

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  5. Reid Novice

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    The price is disgusting but the biggest slap in the face to me was seeing they had actually added some new stuff only to realise it was a fucking easy mode
     
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  6. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Yeah, you'd think they'd at least add a higher difficulty too. The Persona remakes added both higher and lower difficulty options. Especially considering they are adding selectable skill inheritance, Hard will be a cakewalk.
     
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  7. Derringer Learned

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    That's what they've been doing since the Etrian Odyssey remakes just before they got bought by Sega, when I saw how much they fucked SMT4 with DLC shit with the Medusa fight and fucked difficulty scaling I just gave up on Atlus. Buying a used 3DS to softmod it wasn't worth the bad software rehashes and hand cramps.
     
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  8. Silva Arcane

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    You just described Persona 5 Royal. They came up with some fairly interesting new stuff... only to realize it made the game even easier than it was, and never bothered to rebalance.
     
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  9. CyberModuled Savant

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    Funny to see them pull another SMT IV by making DLC rooms exclusively for grinding XP and money. Aside from PC players likely creating a Cheat Engine table for this, I really doubt the average console player will care for something like this when anyone who wants to experiment have strategies to grind in the base game as is for years. God fucking forbid they actually bother adding a universal QoL feature like turbo/animation speed up that everyone could benefit form.

     
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  10. e-mailio estevez Arcane

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    I have some pscx2 cheat file I made that let's me easily change stats and skills on demons after reloading a save, so I don't really see a point in getting this personally. Being able to choose what skills a demon inherits is a nicety I can't go back to not having.
     
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  11. TheSentinel Arcane

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    the remaster has manual skill inheritance.
     
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  12. e-mailio estevez Arcane

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    wat

    i thought it was confirmed early on that it didn't. well nevermind, then!
     
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  13. lightbane Arcane

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    It was added back in through a patch IIRC.
     
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