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Solasta Solasta: Crown of the Magister Thread - now with Palace of Ice sequel DLC

HoboForEternity

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
The more i play the more i get why 5th ed isn't regarded too well. Attunement is crap. Only 3 slots for magic items while pathfinder or 3/3.5 allow you to cover every inch of your body with magical items.

Also don’t know if it's the game or the ruleset but 1 utility slot? No feat or belt items to equip more items? That makes me never use item really.
 

Tyranicon

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I haven't been following this game too closely. Is the dungeon editor mode solid, or is it still a work in process? Can I immediately form a party and go into the dungeon editor or do I have to play the story first? What's the max party size?
 

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I haven't been following this game too closely. Is the dungeon editor mode solid, or is it still a work in process? Can I immediately form a party and go into the dungeon editor or do I have to play the story first? What's the max party size?
I heard it is very underwhelming. Only 1 type of dungeon look, can't make custom enemy etc. It's still in beta tho and the game is looking that it's selling ok so they will add more features hopefully
 

pm_675

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I haven't been following this game too closely. Is the dungeon editor mode solid, or is it still a work in process? Can I immediately form a party and go into the dungeon editor or do I have to play the story first? What's the max party size?

The dungeon editor is still in beta. It's very barebones at the moment but more complete than 2 months ago. And Tactical Adventures has said that they will continue to improve it. Check the nexus for user dungeons and see what they are. Although they are, for now, pretty much combat modules

You don't need to play the story first at all. You can load a module and play it independently of the story. Think like a NWN module but less complex for now.

Party size is four. No more and no less
 

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Yeah I bet that extra +1 to hit and damage is just incredible
+2 to hit and damage, AND it's magical, and therefore bypasses the slashing resistance that many enemies have. That sword is worth way more than the quest reward.
I was assuming you would have access to a +1 already, I know that a +2 weapon gives +2 bonuses you fool
 

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A decent weapon is something that has +X and some other bonuses like +1d6 fire damage or something like that, I was simply observing that it's funny that a basic +2 weapon is regarded so highly
 

Lacrymas

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Whaaat.

Not just low lvl campaign but the whole thing? Where is my +5 godslayers?
Yeap, only +3 in the whole of 5E. Of course, as a DM you can make whatever enchantments you like, but it's not official.
The more i play the more i get why 5th ed isn't regarded too well. Attunement is crap. Only 3 slots for magic items while pathfinder or 3/3.5 allow you to cover every inch of your body with magical items.
The whole point of 5E is to cut down on the power creep and make it as painless and keep-track-of-bonuses-less as possible. They didn't manage to keep the power creep in check, but at least you aren't overwhelmed with bonuses from items. This is a good thing. The other extreme is Pathfinder, a total antithesis of what I find elegant and meaningful RPG system design. So if you like that, go for Pathfinder.
 

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Whaaat.

Not just low lvl campaign but the whole thing? Where is my +5 godslayers?
Yeap, only +3 in the whole of 5E. Of course, as a DM you can make whatever enchantments you like, but it's not official.
The more i play the more i get why 5th ed isn't regarded too well. Attunement is crap. Only 3 slots for magic items while pathfinder or 3/3.5 allow you to cover every inch of your body with magical items.
The whole point of 5E is to cut down on the power creep and make it as painless and keep-track-of-bonuses-less as possible. They didn't manage to keep the power creep in check, but at least you aren't overwhelmed with bonuses from items. This is a good thing. The other extreme is Pathfinder, a total antithesis of what I find elegant and meaningful RPG system design. So if you like that, go for Pathfinder.
I guess it's becuase i play them in videogame form. When i played kingmaker, i do feel something like "how tf even people keep manually all these buffs, effects and modifiers??"

And solasta is obviously more manageable in my imagination into PnP format, i guess i prefer the earlier because in game format the computer keep track all those things so the crazy stacking effects doesn't really matter to the game process.
 

cretin

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literally every human face in this game:
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cretin

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actually im being too generous, those at least have character

the faces in solasta are just an amorphous blob of shit. Literally i dont want to play because I feel nothing about the character I make.
 

Harthwain

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I guess it's becuase i play them in videogame form. When i played kingmaker, i do feel something like "how tf even people keep manually all these buffs, effects and modifiers??"
Frankly, when I played Icewind Dale and Baldur's Gate games I never buffed outside of combat, because somehow I got used to the idea that spells are used in combat, not outside of it (and I was under the impression buffs are going to run out fast anyway). Shadows of Amn only solidified this outlook of mine by having the in-game ban on spell casting within the city (which is where you start). I think the only spell I ever used not in combat was the spell that opens locks, because its non-combat aplication was very obvious.
 

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I like the attunement system, in principle, it gives another strategic dimension to character building. However, magic gear is very scarce in Solasta - which I also like a lot in principle, but it does make attunement largely a non-issue.
 

jackofshadows

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actually im being too generous, those at least have character

the faces in solasta are just an amorphous blob of shit. Literally i dont want to play because I feel nothing about the character I make.
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This isn't a playable character of course but I can't say that I feel nothing about him. I feel pleasant Obilivion flash-backs and an impulse to punch someone.
 

Kabas

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Decided to try the dungeon maker maps made by devs. I went with the warrior, cleric-sun domain, wizard whom i turned into greenmage at lvl 2 and ranger with low-life background for thief tool proficiency. Used point buy instead of random rolls.

Can't make your stats too high with pointbuy, i feel like certain magical items will become vastly more valuable with this system. Gauntlets of ogre power and circlet of intelligence comes to mind.
I see now why the main campaign immidiately gives you a level 2 - you're way too fragile at level 1 and you can easily get hurt without utilising what little tools you have properly.
I quickly realisied that low-life background only gives proficiency but not actual thief tools and i couldn't find any in the goblin mines, found all the other tool kits though.
Warrior seems like a more boring and weaker version of the paladin.
Some encounters so far were indeed interesting. Like, i liked the very second goblin fight where you can either storm them from the front with the fog cloud to negate their cover advantage or you can take a trapped side road to flank them from behind and surprise them.
Got annoyed at not being able to open any chests and decided to restart with a proper rogue, halfway through the second level i kinda lost interest. I guess i was burned out after the main campaign, probably should have tried something wackier like full party of wizards or something.
 

Mortmal

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A rare case of based French developers.
Fucking hell, even if everything was working properly in this game, a +3 Greataxe would be the best weapon to use in the two handed slot. Same as the Longsword of +1d8 Lightning +1 from the other quest is tied for the best one handed STR weapon.
So pretty much every quest item you transport and are supposed to give back for quest completion is best in slot by design?
This game would be a lot better if it wasn't so French
You have to understand our culture More than 60% of our hard work going to the tax office, so if you are questing for a +3 sword be thankful you get any +1 weapon at all as reward !
 

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