KickStarter Solasta Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[luj1]

BG III buried this game, but fair play to them for having integrity and sticking with UI, portraits (even though I think it's fugly and sterile).

 

[Lacrymas]

There's a difference between integrity and self-sabotage.

 

[Ysaye]

Gameplay system was implemented in a good manner. Encounter design was enjoyable. Except for the orcs. That encounter was pretty uninteresting. Surely they could have thrown a spell caster or some sort of ranged user to spice things up. In my opinion, spiders were the most entertaining enemies to face. They could climb walls, throw ranged attacks at you, and poison you.

>I doubt they will add anymore class other than sorcerer
A shame, a real shame. Still, that won't stop me from buying the game and being amused by it. I probably won't invest as many hours as I plan to do with Wrath. Nor will I be as enthusiastic with learning the rule set.

I wish it wasn't full voiced and that budget was used for something else. The dialogues/banters are pretty short and uninteresting, I just don't see the need for it to be fully voiced :/

I totally agree with you (I think this is also having an impact on the number of backgrounds they can provide) but look they have made their decision on this so happy to back them in on it.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

There's a difference between integrity and self-sabotage.

Not everyone has the haute couture aesthetics of a Bulgarian cellophane tape. They'll be fine.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Bulgarian cellophane tape

This was supposed to be Bulgarian cello player.

 

[Lacrymas]

There's a difference between integrity and self-sabotage.

Not everyone has the haute couture aesthetics of a Bulgarian cellophane tape. They'll be fine.

Maybe, but that UI triggers me and if I ever buy this game it will be with a steep discount, as opposed to day 1. Well, it's not only the UI, it's also the Unity assets overall look if they haven't worked extensively to fix that. I'm sure they don't care, but I'm just saying.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

So long the game content is good I am fine with buying the game D1P. Yeah the UI looks "cheap" but so long its functional I am fine.

This is an indie game and I treat it as such. I'd prefer them use their money and development time on system polish and overall game experience.

 

[Lacrymas]

Also an indie game -

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

Maybe, but that UI triggers me and if I ever buy this game it will be with a steep discount, as opposed to day 1. Well, it's not only the UI, it's also the Unity assets overall look if they haven't worked extensively to fix that. I'm sure they don't care, but I'm just saying.

Consider me a bit paranoid, but right now it seems you deliberately want to somehow sabotage this thread? Some pages ago you tried to shit on this game without even reading about 5e ruleset and more experienced people (and people who can use google to learn about 5e rules) managed to curb your autism enough to put debate at rest. But later you returned with "awesome" stories how you was popular in school and employing dirty media tactic (repeating information ad nauseum) to complain about UI.

Ugly UI, huh? Try to play Geneforge series and Solasta's UI would look like masterpiece in comparison (not that Solasta's UI is somehow bad, but still) Anyway dev already answered you, but you still trying your hard to blow "UI problem" out of proportion. Look, man, you can be " graphics connoisseur" (dangerously close to graphics whore) as much as you like it, but threaten devs in "No good UI - no buy" gets you nowhere in this case and just annoys people.

I have my own ideas about UI improvements, but UI is just like any graphical elements - just package for "candy" aka gameplay and etc. Having a good package is nice, but it doesn't helps if candy inside is shit.
Not to mention that UI can be fixed with mods, while for gameplay elements it's not always the case.

Time will tell if Solasta is good or bad.

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

Also an indie game -

Prepare you ass, because people who didn't liked UI in Age of Decadence is coming for you.
UI always is a personal preference, there can't be "absolute ideal" option.
If someone has same fetish for interfaces like you, it doesn't matter that your opinion became ideal.

 

[NJClaw]

Maybe, but that UI triggers me and if I ever buy this game it will be with a steep discount, as opposed to day 1. Well, it's not only the UI, it's also the Unity assets overall look if they haven't worked extensively to fix that. I'm sure they don't care, but I'm just saying.

Consider me a bit paranoid, but right now it seems you deliberately want to somehow sabotage this thread? Some pages ago you tried to shit on this game without even reading about 5e ruleset and more experienced people (and people who can use google to learn about 5e rules) managed to curb your autism enough to put debate at rest. But later you returned with "awesome" stories how you was popular in school and employing dirty media tactic (repeating information ad nauseum) to complain about UI.

Ugly UI, huh? Try to play Geneforge series and Solasta's UI would look like masterpiece in comparison (not that Solasta's UI is somehow bad, but still) Anyway dev already answered you, but you still trying your hard to blow "UI problem" out of proportion. Look, man, you can be " graphics connoisseur" (dangerously close to graphics whore) as much as you like it, but threaten devs in "No good UI - no buy" gets you nowhere in this case and just annoys people.

I have my own ideas about UI improvements, but UI is just like any graphical elements - just package for "candy" aka gameplay and etc. Having a good package is nice, but it doesn't helps if candy inside is shit.
Not to mention that UI can be fixed with mods, while for gameplay elements it's not always the case.

Time will tell if Solasta is good or bad.

Typical feminime behavior, you know

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Also an indie game -

Right, and what was its development time again?

 

[Lacrymas]

Consider me a bit paranoid, but right now it seems you deliberately want to somehow sabotage this thread? Some pages ago you tried to shit on this game without even reading about 5e ruleset and more experienced people (and people who can use google to learn about 5e rules) managed to curb your autism enough to put debate at rest.

What?

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

What?

Even if I mistaken you for someone else - rest of the post stands corrected.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

What?

Even if I mistaken you for someone else - rest of the post stands corrected.

The fact that some games have even more misplaced thematically and/or shittier UI doesn't excuse this one, mate.

 

[Lacrymas]

It's not my fault people want to defend this catastrophe of a UI, so they either must be purged, sent to reeducation camps or corrected at every opportunity.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

they either must be purged, sent to reeducation camps or corrected at every opportunity.

You make me proud, little vixen.

 

[Darth Canoli]

It's not my fault people want to defend this catastrophe of a UI, so they either must be purged, sent to reeducation camps or corrected at every opportunity.

Didn't like the demo either, i'm not very optimistic about this one but i'm still cherishing the hope it'll turn out alright or be heavily moddable or both.

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

It's not my fault people want to defend this catastrophe of a UI

No it's absolutely yours fault, you shouldn't be so butthurt about UI in computer game.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

It's not my fault people want to defend this catastrophe of a UI

No it's absolutely yours fault, you shouldn't be so butthurt about UI in computer game.

You should judge a video game for what it is and the UI is part of that. Stop being such a fanboy.

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

You should judge a video game for what it is and the UI is part of that. Stop being such a fanboy.

I played demo second time specially after saw some comments on UI and did NOT find this UI not as half horrible as Lacrymas said in his posts.
Also, personal preferences in UI counts now as fanboism? With this logic you and Lacrymas can be a "haters", just because you didn't liked UI.
Btw, it's hilarious to read accusations in fanboism from member of Disco Elysium fanbase.

 

[Lacrymas]

The taste of this viscous diarrhea is not as horrible as that other guy claims, I don't know what his problem is.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

You should judge a video game for what it is and the UI is part of that. Stop being such a fanboy.

Also, personal preferences in UI counts now as fanboism? With this logic you and Lacrymas can be a "haters", just because you didn't liked UI.
Btw, it's hilarious to read accusations in fanboism from member of Disco Elysium fanbase.

Nah, but insistence on it not mattering when judging a game does.

As for being a DE fanboy; cool story, brah. Just criticized aspects of it vis-a-vis TW3 in the TW3 GOTY thread earlier today.

 

[Pink Eye]

They should rename this site to RpgCASUALdex. It's pretty obvious that some of the members who frequent this site don't even play video games, let alone RPGs.
>You should judge a video game for what it is and the UI is part of that. Stop being such a fanboy.
Being a fan boy has nothing to do with it. The UI is inconsequential. Say stupid things, win dumb prizes. But don't get alarmed when people call you stupid. "B-but, you're a fan boy", doesn't fly here. A User Interface has two purposes in a cRPG:
>To convey information
>Keep the player informed
The public build managed to meet the criteria. As long as it does its job, then how "ugly" it looks is redundant. I find it amusing that UI is the thing that is being talked about here. When we should be questioning how the deep spider encounter managed to filter so many people out(People are still having issues with it even though it was nerfed). Truly, I would have loved to play the much harder version; instead of the super dumbed one we got in the public build. But yes, UI is the thing that matters here. Not casuals ruining tactical turn based games.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

A User Interface has two purposes in a cRPG:
>To convey information
>Keep the player informed

You forgot the third essential purpose: to fit within the visual design of the game and to complement its aesthetic.

And by all means, Pink Eye, there are other things more important and you are free to discuss them. Just don't get your panties in a bunch over less important issues being discussed.