South Park: The Stick of Truth

[Zombra]

I particularly liked the fact that you had to shold the "skip cutscene" button in order to get past him stuttering Words constantly.

Weakling. Real men sit Jimmy's stuttering out.

I waited until it started looping

It does stop eventually, I waited them all out, but not everybody has what it takes.

You're a better man than I. I shall strive to do better.

 

[SuicideBunny]

I thought that leveling was fairly pointless anyway due to level scaling.

it's not pointless as gear is level locked. it makes stuff considerably easier. when you have the swat helmet and a sweet katana with the 35% dmg on perfect hit badge plus some other stuff to boost 2h dmg, you can wipe entire groups of enemies in a single round with power attacks.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I thought this game was silly and had been thinking of shelving it, but the Princess Kenny stuff had me dying. I'll probably finish it since it's apparently short. The game mechanics are nothing to write home about but some of the content is actually funny in a way most games aren't.

 

[balmorar]

How come they have never banned this show? Silly Americans.

 

[Hobo Elf]

I thought that leveling was fairly pointless anyway due to level scaling.

it's not pointless as gear is level locked. it makes stuff considerably easier. when you have the swat helmet and a sweet katana with the 35% dmg on perfect hit badge plus some other stuff to boost 2h dmg, you can wipe entire groups of enemies in a single round with power attacks.

But I was doing that at level 3-4 already. When you gain a level your power actually dips down until you find more level appropriate gear, then it's evened out again. Not that it matters much since the game plays itself once you get a mod that gives you +PP every time you do Fire damage. Slap in +Health each time you hit and +more health from healing and you are set with IDDQD. Of course you don't have to break the game like this since it's too easy anyway, I'm just pointing out that the RPG mechanics are retarded and would be awful as fuck if this was trying to be a real RPG with actual depth.

 

[Eyeball]

In a surprising twist of fate, I've found a decent youtube conversation with different points of view on the situation.

One of the lines he says when you successfully fend him off during his "Hello Children" phase is something along the lines of "Oh children, what have I done?!" and then goes into his remorse stage. I'm not sure if taking damage has any effect on it however, as I failed one of the button sequences and took some damage. Afterwards he let me go and said the line. Being someone who never actually followed South Park that much I didn't even know Chef was dead.

Surprised me actually when I saw him rise out of the coffin. But after looking up the information on how he died and why, I feel a little disgusted by the game's creators deciding to shove him in the game as a boss. I didn't think about it much until now, but this is exactly why I stopped watching South Park to begin with. The game was good, I've already beaten it and I won't deny that. However I'm now reminded of the reason I abandoned the show and since I've beaten it I don't think I'll be playing the game again.

good for you. Considering you technically haven't been watching the show for about a decade (if your information on why you stopped is correct), then you don't understand the perspective of all the fans, like me, who played this game. Its been an extremely long time since chef's last mere mention, and the stage of remorse that you're experiencing as you're reminded of chef is what everyone else dealt with many respective years ago, so for us, seeing chef like this was an awesome homage.

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Firstly, people who use the term "homage" should be assfucked to death by syphilitic rhinoceri. Secondly, I do not agree that this is one. If anything, it highlights something unflattering about Stone and Parker's characters that I've suspected for ages.

After Hayes left SP due to the Scientology episode, they did an episode in which they turned Chef into a vicious child molester and killed him off graphically by throwing him off a bridge and having him get torn to shreds by wild animals. They did not have to do that. Chef was one of the most beloved SP characters and to end his character like that was vicious and unnecessary. Furthermore, the character Wendy Testaburger is a huge selfish self-righteous bitch. She is based one of their ex-girlfriends who dumped them, a fact they were clearly still extremely butthurt about when they wrote the character.

In other words, the creators of South Park are petty and vindictive as FUCK and will not stop kicking you when you're a rotting corpse. I actually felt downright uncomfortable watching the Chef segment in this game. All the abortion and gay asshole sequences were just derpy, that one was downright creepy to Watch.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Maybe you and the first comment guy are reading too much into it? Big South Park game released (I think it's the first one since the ones for the Nintendo 64 decades ago edit: there were two small games for the xbox live arcade), old character gets a cameo.

also, Chef was brainwashed in that episode.

(edit: and Wendy actually does a bunch of positive stuff despite being relatively whiny. Kinda like Lisa from the Simpsons)

 

[Bubbles]

Didn't that episode also end with the boys kinda-forgiving him and blaming the cult instead?

I think they really just wanted a Chef cameo in this game and didn't mind that it was tasteless.

 

[Stokowski]

Isaac Hayes was a tool. Fuck him.

 

[Renegen]

I particularly liked the fact that you had to shold the "skip cutscene" button in order to get past him stuttering Words constantly.

Weakling. Real men sit Jimmy's stuttering out.

I waited until it started looping

There's actually a sequence later on where you specifically cannot skip him anymore.

 

[Grinolf]

Didn't that episode also end with the boys kinda-forgiving him and blaming the cult instead?

Yes, this episode is mostly offensive towards scientology church which was compared there to the pedophile's club. Even "Trapped in the closet" was more kind and tolerant to them than thisone. Chef there looked more like victim than villain there.

 

[SuicideBunny]

I'm just pointing out that the RPG mechanics are retarded

i'm not sure hp/pp/mana and that ability/perk system even deserve being called rpg mechanics, especially since hp is irrelevant due to scaling.

After Hayes left SP due to the Scientology episode, they did an episode in which they turned Chef into a vicious child molester and killed him off graphically by throwing him off a bridge and having him get torn to shreds by wild animals. They did not have to do that. Chef was one of the most beloved SP characters and to end his character like that was vicious and unnecessary.

killing the character off is actually a form of tribute. it's saying that no other voice actor could replace him. if they were as vindicative as you claim, they would have just found a different voice actor and continued like nothing ever happened (and maybe cut chef's singing parts depending on whom they would have found). plus the whole brainwash thing was perfectly justified given the contents of the letter and the fact that he reportedly didn't even write it himself.

 

[Menckenstein]

That episode was hilarious SuicideBunny


Also it's good to see that Obsidian went back to their "bible" of RPG writing, a return to form ala Torment:

Spoiler

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Maybe you and the first comment guy are reading too much into it? Big South Park game released, old character gets a cameo.

I can see that angle, however, after using chef to personify Isaac Hayes he is lessened tremendously as an actual character. I think it natural for those who know the backstory of chef's demise to think of it is dragging hayes through the mud. In any case I can accept that it's SP's way of homage, or actually I guess I just don't really care, I'm way too /edgy/ to get butthurt over something like that, I don't even give a fuck about not giving a fuck, fuck Scientology.

 

[CrimsonAngel]

Wasent the plot of the death of Chef that he started molesting children because he was controlled by an evil cult and he diead to protect to children.

 

[uaciaut]

So this is basically Obsidian's very first smash hit (both financially and critically) and they won't get a single dime from this? Life's shit.

Got any details and/or sources for that?

 

[Infinitron]

FO:NV is Obsidian's "very first smash hit" and I don't think South Park will outsell it.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Remember: Nagasaki!

Wasent the plot of the death of Chef that he started molesting children because he was controlled by an evil cult and he diead to protect to children.

No no, Chef died when he tried to go back to the Super Adventure Club after the British monocle leader guy manipulates him just after they've crossed the rope bridge. The whole plot of the episode is basically about how Matt and Trey felt about the way Isaac left the show, and how they believe the blame is squarely on Church of Scientology ("we shouldn't be mad at Chef for leaving; we should be mad at that gay little club for scrambling his brains"). I liked Chef's cameo, and really I don't see it being disrespectful or anything given how it was all due to the fact Clyde had completely lost his shit.

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How come they have never banned this show? Silly Americans.

When Americans attempt to censor South Park, it usually backfires. Check #5:

http://www.cracked.com/article_20670_6-sneaky-ways-movies-tv-shows-outsmarted-censors.html

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

I really saw the cameo as more for the fans than anything. Isaac Hayes is dead. What would be the point of insulting him?

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I really saw the cameo as more for the fans than anything. Isaac Hayes is dead. What would be the point of insulting him?

Yep. AND he does become the real Chef again but then Clyde's an asshole about it.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

It's a story of redemption.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Well I guess that's settled then!

 

[Deleted member 7219]

Never thought I'd see the day when the Codex would complain about something being 'offensive'.

Isaac Hayes was perfectly fine being on a show that took the piss out of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Mormons and other faiths but when it came to his own, he just couldn't take it.

He was a member of a dangerous cult that peddled brainwashing nonsense and the 'Return of Chef' episode was meant to represent that - how Isaac Hayes was a friend and a good man, turned evil by a bunch of creepy assholes.

Matt and Trey were massively pissed off by Hayes' two-facedness, the whole idea of South Park is that nothing is above mockery.

 

[dryan]

Played it for 15 minutes today. It's pretty funny, but the combat gets old really fast. It's like a flash game.

 

[Duraframe300]

Regarding combat difficulty being fucked. I wonder if its related to this

https://twitter.com/IridiumGameDev/status/438035820021161984

I remember Chris Avellone also drawing sad Obsidian employees back in december 2012 in regards to Stick of Truth.