Starfield - Epic Shit Takes from Bethestards

[Cpt. Dallas]

Is there a price/mod point where Starfield will ever be worth a play? Not to go over 190 pages of comments, but TOW had a lot of 'wouldn't play it for any amount of money' from those that got if for a buck on gamepass. Bethesda has clearly lowered expectations after dumping FO4 and 76 on us.

I've played some seriously crap games on seasonal sales for under ten bucks to kill time in a drought.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

Is there a price/mod point where Starfield will ever be worth a play? Not to go over 190 pages of comments, but TOW had a lot of 'wouldn't play it for any amount of money' from those that got if for a buck on gamepass. Bethesda has clearly lowered expectations after dumping FO4 and 76 on us.

I've played some seriously crap games on seasonal sales for under ten bucks to kill time in a drought.

Make a fresh xbox account. Spend £1 on a week trial and play through it from there. Don't buy it. Pirate it if you don't want to mess around and deny MS your tiny amount of money

 

[Silverfish]

in what world are we surprised that a Bethesda game is getting more players than a turn based cRPG

In a world where you're the only Bethestard and we are laughing at you for thinking people want to play a Bethesda game.

If my choices are 'Daggerfall in space with Fallout 4's combat' or 'here's a list of the developers' fetishes in your high fantasy adventure, but at least it's turn-based', I'll take the former every time.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

in what world are we surprised that a Bethesda game is getting more players than a turn based cRPG

In a world where you're the only Bethestard and we are laughing at you for thinking people want to play a Bethesda game.

If my choices are 'Daggerfall in space with Fallout 4's combat' or 'here's a list of the developers' fetishes in your high fantasy adventure, but at least it's turn-based', I'll take the former every time.

I suggest you play Starfield and get to the weird fetish dance club before you assume Starfield is any less fetishy than BG3..

 

[Silverfish]

You're right. Gay dudes dancing at a club is right up there with inter-species sex scenes and shit eating.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

You're right. Gay dudes dancing at a club is right up there with inter-species sex scenes and shit eating.

You know the ant outfits are someone's fetish. Don't deny it.

Starfield has inter-species sex scenes too. Have you seen how many negroids are running around? Half frog, half nigger. All Starfield.

 

[Ibn Sina]

Is there a price/mod point where Starfield will ever be worth a play? Not to go over 190 pages of comments, but TOW had a lot of 'wouldn't play it for any amount of money' from those that got if for a buck on gamepass. Bethesda has clearly lowered expectations after dumping FO4 and 76 on us.

I've played some seriously crap games on seasonal sales for under ten bucks to kill time in a drought.

IMO it is not even worth pirating. Just booting and playing the game feels like tedious work, no enjoyment or leisure to be had. Maybe try it in a few years when the complete edition is out with multiple patches if you are curious.

 

[Silverfish]

You know the ant outfits are someone's fetish. Don't deny it.

Never did, still less repulsive than Baldur's Gate or Cyberpunk.

 

[Vic]

Is there a price/mod point where Starfield will ever be worth a play? Not to go over 190 pages of comments, but TOW had a lot of 'wouldn't play it for any amount of money' from those that got if for a buck on gamepass. Bethesda has clearly lowered expectations after dumping FO4 and 76 on us.

I've played some seriously crap games on seasonal sales for under ten bucks to kill time in a drought.

I pirated it but I think the 200 hours I spent playing was a bigger investment than 50 bucks or whatever it's now. Watch some youtube videos and see if you like the gameplay, no point asking on the codex if you should play starfield.

 

[Vic]

Don't forget to upgrade your PC

 

[kalash19]

Starfield is the reason why BG3 feels so great and make me feel bad myself for blaming the bad release of CP 2077.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/8034

THIS IS A PROOF OF CONCEPT. IT IS INCOMPLETE AND ONLY PARTIALLY FUNCTIONAL. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

I have figured out how to add new stars and star systems to the map. As a proof of concept I copied the system structure of Rasalhague (small number of planets and moons, easier to work with) and placed a new star system, "Dusk", to the south of Delta Pavonis. These are all new FormIDs, I didn't just move Rasalhague (moving systems is much easier).

However, the system is currently "unuseable" for the following reasons:

1. The system will not appear in a running game. It appears that the star map is established at the start of a new game or NG+. Any stars added after that initialization are placed on top of Sol, rendering access to that system difficult as the game has trouble figuring out if you are attempting to go to the old system or the new. So far I haven't figured out how to force a map update.

2. You can NOT land on any of the planets. Although I used existing planets as templates there is one thing I can't do, which is link the planet to a *.biom file in Starfield - PlanetData.ba2. These are the files that describe the surface tile layout of a planet (which tile has which biome), and without a valid, linked biom file the planet has no surface to land on. Ok, more accurately the game engine has no guide on what kind of terrain to procedurally generate, so it prevents you from going there. There is no obvious link to a biom file in the planet data, which means it's probably in one of the unknown fields.

So why upload this? First, to demonstrate that adding new systems is possible. Second, I'm hoping fresh eyes will help figure out the remaining issues, and any others that crop up.

Interesting advance. If you can add entire star systems that means you can do whatever you want with a mod without worrying about conflicts. In the comments they already figured out how to land, too (change from gas giant to something else)

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/8034

THIS IS A PROOF OF CONCEPT. IT IS INCOMPLETE AND ONLY PARTIALLY FUNCTIONAL. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

I have figured out how to add new stars and star systems to the map. As a proof of concept I copied the system structure of Rasalhague (small number of planets and moons, easier to work with) and placed a new star system, "Dusk", to the south of Delta Pavonis. These are all new FormIDs, I didn't just move Rasalhague (moving systems is much easier).

However, the system is currently "unuseable" for the following reasons:

1. The system will not appear in a running game. It appears that the star map is established at the start of a new game or NG+. Any stars added after that initialization are placed on top of Sol, rendering access to that system difficult as the game has trouble figuring out if you are attempting to go to the old system or the new. So far I haven't figured out how to force a map update.

2. You can NOT land on any of the planets. Although I used existing planets as templates there is one thing I can't do, which is link the planet to a *.biom file in Starfield - PlanetData.ba2. These are the files that describe the surface tile layout of a planet (which tile has which biome), and without a valid, linked biom file the planet has no surface to land on. Ok, more accurately the game engine has no guide on what kind of terrain to procedurally generate, so it prevents you from going there. There is no obvious link to a biom file in the planet data, which means it's probably in one of the unknown fields.

So why upload this? First, to demonstrate that adding new systems is possible. Second, I'm hoping fresh eyes will help figure out the remaining issues, and any others that crop up.

Interesting advance. If you can add entire star systems that means you can do whatever you want with a mod without worrying about conflicts. In the comments they already figured out how to land, too (change from gas giant to something else)

Just what Starfield needed! More empty planets with nothing on them..

 

[Modron]

I can see the future: now an a adopt a highway cleanup program for modders to volunteer and try to make planets interesting one planet at a time.

 

[Vic]

Interesting advance. If you can add entire star systems that means you can do whatever you want with a mod without worrying about conflicts. In the comments they already figured out how to land, too (change from gas giant to something else)

I mean to me it was pretty obvious from the beginning that starfield has the biggest mod potential of any previous game ever made. you could probably mod a fully functioning fallout 4 into the game.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

I mean to me it was pretty obvious from the beginning that starfield has the biggest mod potential of any previous game ever made. you could probably mod a fully functioning fallout 4 into the game.

Laughs in Halo Infinite.

 

[Vic]

Didn't watch but some people might find this interesting.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

2 hour video on all the ways starfield sucks and how bad Bethesda's engine is.

 

[Vic]

2 hour video on all the ways starfield sucks and how bad Bethesda's engine is.

I think it's meant as a suggestion for future mods

 

[Bulo]

Delete this thread. It's a fucking disgrace

 

[Seethe]

in what world are we surprised that a Bethesda game is getting more players than a turn based cRPG

In a world where you're the only Bethestard and we are laughing at you for thinking people want to play a Bethesda game.

If my choices are 'Daggerfall in space with Fallout 4's combat' or 'here's a list of the developers' fetishes in your high fantasy adventure, but at least it's turn-based', I'll take the former every time.

Storyfags are truly hopeless 'tards. Especially the pearl clutchers

 

[Vic]

listening to the Starfield OST, pretty chill

 

[Vic]

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

Starfield fan sits in empty landscape doing nothing while Sony fan has heart felt emotional experience playing his favourite game.

An accurate portrait of modern gaming. Well done Vic.

 

[Silverfish]

Soyny bros seething when they could just buy an Xbox. You hate to see it.