Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Fedora Master]

Maybe, Bethesda is usually not completely gonzo about this sort of stuff as other companies, but Skyrim is from 2011 and according to the Skullgirl guys that was a different era entirely, so who knows. Thus far it amounted to "the guns are blocky because they have to work on space".

Bit bigger:

They're going with 11mm on the rifle, which is in the balllpark of .45 ACP. The racist shotgun (middle right) uses 15x25mm shells, which doesn't say a lot to me. Also the Coachman shotgun reminds me of the Sturdy Caravan Shotgun from New Vegas.

Imagine posting screenshots of Iron Swords and Ebony Daggers from Skyrim and trying to discuss them on their merits as actual weapons.

 

[EvilWolf]

Maybe, Bethesda is usually not completely gonzo about this sort of stuff as other companies, but Skyrim is from 2011 and according to the Skullgirl guys that was a different era entirely, so who knows. Thus far it amounted to "the guns are blocky because they have to work on space".

Bit bigger:

They're going with 11mm on the rifle, which is in the balllpark of .45 ACP. The racist shotgun (middle right) uses 15x25mm shells, which doesn't say a lot to me. Also the Coachman shotgun reminds me of the Sturdy Caravan Shotgun from New Vegas.

Imagine posting screenshots of Iron Swords and Ebony Daggers from Skyrim and trying to discuss them on their merits as actual weapons.

People base their entire Youtube careers on that grift though.

 

[thesecret1]

BG3's setting is also generic as fuck, but even so Larian is managing to sell it as the biggest and bestest rpg ever made, and people are crazy with hype.

BG3 is an established IP. And I'm not talking about the game (Beth has lots of hype for it), I'm talking about an anime spin-off for it

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I bet this "realistic" setting exists purely to be able to fit as many virtue signal moments as possible - there is no longer any need to wonder how to show in a roundabout way that the bad people are christian straight wypipo, and the heroes fighting against them are rainbow trannies, now they can unapologetically just say all this shit straight up, because it's a "realistic" setting that is supposed to be close to our current world. I'm 100% sure the game will be absolutely full of most blatant woke propaganda ever seen in gaming.

 

[Zombra]

"There's a woman in one of the trailers!! And I think I saw a black person before I shut it off!! I'm scared!!!!!!!"

 

[Late Bloomer]

Even just glancing at the NPC's in Starfield should be concerning for anyone worried about an agenda, it being woke, pandering etc. The descriptions will be hidden in case any of you want to find out all about how these clowns fit into the game world on your own. I know quite a few of you actually looking forward to these types of NPC's.

Spoiler

Kibwe Ikande is a commander of the United Colonies faction, found aboard the UC Vigilance on the command deck. He is this games version of Ralof/Hadvar. You will see this guys ugly mug everytime you make a new character and more down the road.

Spoiler

Piracy once ran through Vlad’s veins, but something made him turn away from a life of crime, and join the Constellation faction. It’s unclear at this point if Vlad has some connection to the Crimson Fleet faction, but his previous life could mean he left. He is also the strongest member of Constellation. What a surprise, this is the "strongest" member of your crew. Can you even say no to these bums joining your crew? Can you make your own crew members? I hope so.

Spoiler

Here is Barrett. A companion, having access to higher food recipes, boosting your damage against robots, and improving your ship’s weapons and designs. He is also the Spacefarer’s first contact with the Constellation faction following the player’s discovery of an Artifact. Fallout 4, the game everyone shits on here (except me and a couple others) had better companions than this. Is this Starfields, MacReady? At least MacReady didn't look like a turd in a suit

Spoiler

This is John Tuala, a Lieutenant of the United Colonies faction, and a possible recruitment agent for the Vanguard. What the fuck is this? Looks like some indie pro wrestler who headbutts coconuts.

Spoiler

An average quest giver in Starfield. I present, Markieff Sunderland. He needs help with his beans as he works at a restauraunt. Maybe some evil white gang stole his beans! There was one Redguard quest giver in Skyrim. I am betting this game won't only have one single Space Redguard giving out quests, but a whole bunch of them.

Spoiler

Here is Noel. She is a gifted scientist of the Constellation faction, and a potential addition to your crew. Who else would be a "gifted scientist"? Certainly not a white dude or an asian man? Has to be some ultra mutt

Spoiler

Here is the head of the Constellation faction (the faction the player is involved in) Sarah Morgan. An ex-soldier and adventurer, Sarah’s primary interest is in finding the Artifacts scattered throughout the Settled Systems. There is no way this faction could be led by a man. It's far to important. I can 100% guarantee she will talk down to the player character and quesiton most decisions you make.

The three offical cartoons posted today were also alarming to anyone who is concerned about Starfield being woke. I explained why a page or two back.

 

[bobocrunch]

its always funny to see shit like this when you realize people literally think black people = woke
actually mentally ill this isnt even supposed to be medaeval europa its just space

 

[bobocrunch]

Late Bloomer collecting images of black men on his computer to angrily rant about how they're uh... black. in space. what the frick this isnt my aryan utopia i need games to adhere to my politics (NO FUCKING BLACKS OR WOMEN!!!!!) not like those fricking sjws

 

[Late Bloomer]

its always funny to see shit like this when you realize people literally think black people = woke

@Late Bloomer collecting images of black men on his computer to angrily rant about how they're uh... black. in space. what the frick this isnt my aryan utopia i need games to adhere to my politics (NO FUCKING BLACKS OR WOMEN!!!!!) not like those fricking sjws

I don't want to stink up this thread anymore with this talk. I would gladly discuss this in the gamergate thread if you are so inclined. I also wrote something in the "list of woke and non-woke roleplaying games" thread here in general RPG. Or you can just keep thinking that it's those darn racists hating on someone because of the colour of their skin. It isn't. Starfield will be woke, guaranteed.

 

[Hace El Oso]

its always funny to see shit like this when you realize people literally think black people = woke
actually mentally ill this isnt even supposed to be medaeval europa its just space

They can’t even use computers now, why would they be able to in the future, let alone fly spaceships?

 

[bobocrunch]

its always funny to see shit like this when you realize people literally think black people = woke

@Late Bloomer collecting images of black men on his computer to angrily rant about how they're uh... black. in space. what the frick this isnt my aryan utopia i need games to adhere to my politics (NO FUCKING BLACKS OR WOMEN!!!!!) not like those fricking sjws

I don't want to stink up this thread anymore with this talk. I would gladly discuss this in the gamergate thread if you are so inclined. I also wrote something in the "list of woke and non-woke roleplaying games" thread here in general RPG. Or you can just keep thinking that it's those darn racists hating on someone because of the colour of their skin. It isn't. Starfield will be woke, guaranteed.

you talk dont about games you just whine because you're probably too poor for a pc that runs them lol

I would gladly discuss this in the gamergate thread if you are so inclined.

yea go back to your containment and quit spreading your retard contagion

 

[Silverfish]

Starfield will be woke, guaranteed.

I have to disagree. Beth have a rock solid history of fucking up the intended message and I don't see Starfield being an exception, regardless of intention.

 

[EvilWolf]

Even just glancing at the NPC's in Starfield should be concerning for anyone worried about an agenda, it being woke, pandering etc. The descriptions will be hidden in case any of you want to find out all about how these clowns fit into the game world on your own. I know quite a few of you actually looking forward to these types of NPC's.

Spoiler

Kibwe Ikande is a commander of the United Colonies faction, found aboard the UC Vigilance on the command deck. He is this games version of Ralof/Hadvar. You will see this guys ugly mug everytime you make a new character and more down the road.

Spoiler

Piracy once ran through Vlad’s veins, but something made him turn away from a life of crime, and join the Constellation faction. It’s unclear at this point if Vlad has some connection to the Crimson Fleet faction, but his previous life could mean he left. He is also the strongest member of Constellation. What a surprise, this is the "strongest" member of your crew. Can you even say no to these bums joining your crew? Can you make your own crew members? I hope so.

Spoiler

Here is Barrett. A companion, having access to higher food recipes, boosting your damage against robots, and improving your ship’s weapons and designs. He is also the Spacefarer’s first contact with the Constellation faction following the player’s discovery of an Artifact. Fallout 4, the game everyone shits on here (except me and a couple others) had better companions than this. Is this Starfields, MacReady? At least MacReady didn't look like a turd in a suit

Spoiler

This is John Tuala, a Lieutenant of the United Colonies faction, and a possible recruitment agent for the Vanguard. What the fuck is this? Looks like some indie pro wrestler who headbutts coconuts.

Spoiler

An average quest giver in Starfield. I present, Markieff Sunderland. He needs help with his beans as he works at a restauraunt. Maybe some evil white gang stole his beans! There was one Redguard quest giver in Skyrim. I am betting this game won't only have one single Space Redguard giving out quests, but a whole bunch of them.

Spoiler

Here is Noel. She is a gifted scientist of the Constellation faction, and a potential addition to your crew. Who else would be a "gifted scientist"? Certainly not a white dude or an asian man? Has to be some ultra mutt

Spoiler

Here is the head of the Constellation faction (the faction the player is involved in) Sarah Morgan. An ex-soldier and adventurer, Sarah’s primary interest is in finding the Artifacts scattered throughout the Settled Systems. There is no way this faction could be led by a man. It's far to important. I can 100% guarantee she will talk down to the player character and quesiton most decisions you make.

The three offical cartoons posted today were also alarming to anyone who is concerned about Starfield being woke. I explained why a page or two back.

Ah, "space Redguards" I'm fucking dead.

 

[Caim]

Even just glancing at the NPC's in Starfield should be concerning for anyone worried about an agenda, it being woke, pandering etc. The descriptions will be hidden in case any of you want to find out all about how these clowns fit into the game world on your own. I know quite a few of you actually looking forward to these types of NPC's.

Spoiler

Kibwe Ikande is a commander of the United Colonies faction, found aboard the UC Vigilance on the command deck. He is this games version of Ralof/Hadvar. You will see this guys ugly mug everytime you make a new character and more down the road.

Spoiler

Piracy once ran through Vlad’s veins, but something made him turn away from a life of crime, and join the Constellation faction. It’s unclear at this point if Vlad has some connection to the Crimson Fleet faction, but his previous life could mean he left. He is also the strongest member of Constellation. What a surprise, this is the "strongest" member of your crew. Can you even say no to these bums joining your crew? Can you make your own crew members? I hope so.

Spoiler

Here is Barrett. A companion, having access to higher food recipes, boosting your damage against robots, and improving your ship’s weapons and designs. He is also the Spacefarer’s first contact with the Constellation faction following the player’s discovery of an Artifact. Fallout 4, the game everyone shits on here (except me and a couple others) had better companions than this. Is this Starfields, MacReady? At least MacReady didn't look like a turd in a suit

Spoiler

This is John Tuala, a Lieutenant of the United Colonies faction, and a possible recruitment agent for the Vanguard. What the fuck is this? Looks like some indie pro wrestler who headbutts coconuts.

Spoiler

An average quest giver in Starfield. I present, Markieff Sunderland. He needs help with his beans as he works at a restauraunt. Maybe some evil white gang stole his beans! There was one Redguard quest giver in Skyrim. I am betting this game won't only have one single Space Redguard giving out quests, but a whole bunch of them.

Spoiler

Here is Noel. She is a gifted scientist of the Constellation faction, and a potential addition to your crew. Who else would be a "gifted scientist"? Certainly not a white dude or an asian man? Has to be some ultra mutt

Spoiler

Here is the head of the Constellation faction (the faction the player is involved in) Sarah Morgan. An ex-soldier and adventurer, Sarah’s primary interest is in finding the Artifacts scattered throughout the Settled Systems. There is no way this faction could be led by a man. It's far to important. I can 100% guarantee she will talk down to the player character and quesiton most decisions you make.

The three offical cartoons posted today were also alarming to anyone who is concerned about Starfield being woke. I explained why a page or two back.

Ah, "space Redguards" I'm fucking dead.

"You see those astronauts from Hammerfell IV? They've got curved blasters. Curved. Blasters."

 

[Modron]

"You see those astronauts from Hammerfell IV? They've got curved blasters. Curved. Blasters."

Should have said square shotguns.

 

[Silverfish]

Even just glancing at the NPC's in Starfield should be concerning for anyone worried about an agenda, it being woke, pandering etc. The descriptions will be hidden in case any of you want to find out all about how these clowns fit into the game world on your own. I know quite a few of you actually looking forward to these types of NPC's.

Spoiler

Kibwe Ikande is a commander of the United Colonies faction, found aboard the UC Vigilance on the command deck. He is this games version of Ralof/Hadvar. You will see this guys ugly mug everytime you make a new character and more down the road.

Spoiler

Piracy once ran through Vlad’s veins, but something made him turn away from a life of crime, and join the Constellation faction. It’s unclear at this point if Vlad has some connection to the Crimson Fleet faction, but his previous life could mean he left. He is also the strongest member of Constellation. What a surprise, this is the "strongest" member of your crew. Can you even say no to these bums joining your crew? Can you make your own crew members? I hope so.

Spoiler

Here is Barrett. A companion, having access to higher food recipes, boosting your damage against robots, and improving your ship’s weapons and designs. He is also the Spacefarer’s first contact with the Constellation faction following the player’s discovery of an Artifact. Fallout 4, the game everyone shits on here (except me and a couple others) had better companions than this. Is this Starfields, MacReady? At least MacReady didn't look like a turd in a suit

Spoiler

This is John Tuala, a Lieutenant of the United Colonies faction, and a possible recruitment agent for the Vanguard. What the fuck is this? Looks like some indie pro wrestler who headbutts coconuts.

Spoiler

An average quest giver in Starfield. I present, Markieff Sunderland. He needs help with his beans as he works at a restauraunt. Maybe some evil white gang stole his beans! There was one Redguard quest giver in Skyrim. I am betting this game won't only have one single Space Redguard giving out quests, but a whole bunch of them.

Spoiler

Here is Noel. She is a gifted scientist of the Constellation faction, and a potential addition to your crew. Who else would be a "gifted scientist"? Certainly not a white dude or an asian man? Has to be some ultra mutt

Spoiler

Here is the head of the Constellation faction (the faction the player is involved in) Sarah Morgan. An ex-soldier and adventurer, Sarah’s primary interest is in finding the Artifacts scattered throughout the Settled Systems. There is no way this faction could be led by a man. It's far to important. I can 100% guarantee she will talk down to the player character and quesiton most decisions you make.

The three offical cartoons posted today were also alarming to anyone who is concerned about Starfield being woke. I explained why a page or two back.

That's an awful lot of people asking me how often I visit the Cloud District.

 

[Caim]

Even just glancing at the NPC's in Starfield should be concerning for anyone worried about an agenda, it being woke, pandering etc. The descriptions will be hidden in case any of you want to find out all about how these clowns fit into the game world on your own. I know quite a few of you actually looking forward to these types of NPC's.

Spoiler

Kibwe Ikande is a commander of the United Colonies faction, found aboard the UC Vigilance on the command deck. He is this games version of Ralof/Hadvar. You will see this guys ugly mug everytime you make a new character and more down the road.

Spoiler

Piracy once ran through Vlad’s veins, but something made him turn away from a life of crime, and join the Constellation faction. It’s unclear at this point if Vlad has some connection to the Crimson Fleet faction, but his previous life could mean he left. He is also the strongest member of Constellation. What a surprise, this is the "strongest" member of your crew. Can you even say no to these bums joining your crew? Can you make your own crew members? I hope so.

Spoiler

Here is Barrett. A companion, having access to higher food recipes, boosting your damage against robots, and improving your ship’s weapons and designs. He is also the Spacefarer’s first contact with the Constellation faction following the player’s discovery of an Artifact. Fallout 4, the game everyone shits on here (except me and a couple others) had better companions than this. Is this Starfields, MacReady? At least MacReady didn't look like a turd in a suit

Spoiler

This is John Tuala, a Lieutenant of the United Colonies faction, and a possible recruitment agent for the Vanguard. What the fuck is this? Looks like some indie pro wrestler who headbutts coconuts.

Spoiler

An average quest giver in Starfield. I present, Markieff Sunderland. He needs help with his beans as he works at a restauraunt. Maybe some evil white gang stole his beans! There was one Redguard quest giver in Skyrim. I am betting this game won't only have one single Space Redguard giving out quests, but a whole bunch of them.

Spoiler

Here is Noel. She is a gifted scientist of the Constellation faction, and a potential addition to your crew. Who else would be a "gifted scientist"? Certainly not a white dude or an asian man? Has to be some ultra mutt

Spoiler

Here is the head of the Constellation faction (the faction the player is involved in) Sarah Morgan. An ex-soldier and adventurer, Sarah’s primary interest is in finding the Artifacts scattered throughout the Settled Systems. There is no way this faction could be led by a man. It's far to important. I can 100% guarantee she will talk down to the player character and quesiton most decisions you make.

The three offical cartoons posted today were also alarming to anyone who is concerned about Starfield being woke. I explained why a page or two back.

That's an awful lot of people asking me how often I visit the Cloud District.

Even in Star Wars the guy in charge of the Cloud District, Lando Calrissian, is black.

 

[Silverfish]

Even in Star Wars the guy in charge of the Cloud District, Lando Calrissian, is black.

Presumably, this is why the government had to shut them down.

 

[Caim]

Even in Star Wars the guy in charge of the Cloud District, Lando Calrissian, is black.

Presumably, this is why the government had to shut them down.

By sending another black guy.

 

[Yoomazir]

I guess it's gonna be just like in Cyberpunk 2077 where it was so diverse that the only blond hair, blue eyes, white male in Night City was the character you created...

 

[Caim]

Imagine the rage at mods that make everyone white.

 

[Stavrophore]

Hopefully just as there was a mod to remove female bandits from skyrim[sadly you couldn't remove certain female characters like legate rikke, or other woman warriors] there will be a mod making all characters hyperboreans. The biggest obstacle to replacing models in earlier bethesturd games was that the voice acting would not match the new gender, but now with the ai advances, you can just rerecord lines and be done with it. It would be of course a shitton of work, most likely for no benefit, as such mod could be easily taken off from nexus or other website where you could monetize your gargantuan work.

 

[EvilWolf]

Hopefully just as there was a mod to remove female bandits from skyrim[sadly you couldn't remove certain female characters like legate rikke, or other woman warriors] there will be a mod making all characters hyperboreans. The biggest obstacle to replacing models in earlier bethesturd games was that the voice acting would not match the new gender, but now with the ai advances, you can just rerecord lines and be done with it. It would be of course a shitton of work, most likely for no benefit, as such mod could be easily taken off from nexus or other website where you could monetize your gargantuan work.

Couldnt you just replace the female bandit voice files with the male bandit's?

 

[Stavrophore]

Hopefully just as there was a mod to remove female bandits from skyrim[sadly you couldn't remove certain female characters like legate rikke, or other woman warriors] there will be a mod making all characters hyperboreans. The biggest obstacle to replacing models in earlier bethesturd games was that the voice acting would not match the new gender, but now with the ai advances, you can just rerecord lines and be done with it. It would be of course a shitton of work, most likely for no benefit, as such mod could be easily taken off from nexus or other website where you could monetize your gargantuan work.

Couldnt you just replace the female bandit voice files with the male bandit's?

This works for non unique NPCs and yes it does that automatically, because you populate leveled list with male bandits only. As for unique chars like Rikke you can't do that obviously, as there are no one to replace her with and her unique voice lines.

 

[dsndo]

It's not that Starfield will be woke by having literal trannies gyrating all over your flight deck, it will be woke in the sense that neither sex nor race matters in any meaningful sense. These are just costumes you choose during character creation. If you have a mercenary company or fighter pilot squadron that isn't 95% men with testosterone then the setting fails to convince me that this is a real world populated by actual humans. You can already see this with the trailer they showed. Pirates, underworld gangs, secret cults and space raiders all have an even 50/50 male-female split and they are all as diverse as a stock photo of a corporate boardroom. Not one identifiable ethnic group has been unaccounted for and it makes all factions look the same. You can only get away with this generic casting approach if you have actually well developed and acted characters like in RDR2.

The reason why games like Vampire the Masquerade have memorable factions is because they were actual FACTIONS. People aligned to a common goal by a common vision. The asian vampires were all asian. The aristocratic vampires were all Aryans with appropriate voice actors. The Nosferatus were all hideous outcasts. The factions were believable.

All criminal gangs in the real world organize themselves by ethnicity without exception. All cults as well. Constellation doesn't remind me of a real space exploration organization. It looks like a handful of cosplaying reddit dorks that just happen to be milling about in the same room at the same time. I can already tell that while I will have a handful of memorable hours boarding ships and exterminating their crews I will not remember a single Starfield character or quest in 5 years time. Just like I can't name a single Skyrim character by name despite putting about a 100 hours into that game.