Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[racofer]

Pirates also get no mod support and for a bethesda game is a sin.
Edit: Someone got butthurt by this comment!

But not use the script extender that is a must.

Script extender usually requires the original games to work if you install mod that dont require the script extender they will work but for more complex mod requiring it is hella tricky the moment you try to install the script extender it will register an error as the original client is not found. At least in skyrim not sure on older bethesda games.

That's not true. All mods and the script extenders and every other DLL injecting mods like ENB have always worked with every cracked version Skyrim and Fallout 4.

 

[Forest Dweller]

Pirates will get to play before people who dropped 59.99 on the normie edition. Lol.

It is the way.

 

[DemonKing]

Is there anyone who wanted this instead of Elder Scrolls VI?

I don't want ES6 at all until they greatly overhaul combat.

This. I don't mind the art direction, questing, storyline etc of Skyrim too much, but the "combat" is just painful and borderline unplayable.

 

[Immortal]

Script extender usually requires the original games to work if you install mod that dont require the script extender they will work but for more complex mod requiring it is hella tricky the moment you try to install the script extender it will register an error as the original client is not found. At least in skyrim not sure on older bethesda games.

That's simply not true, lol.

SKSE to my knowledge has not integrated any copyright check.. Lots of mods do though. FNIS for example will attempt to detect a legal copy. Vortex I think is trying now too.
Also SKSE will only cut releases for the latest copy of Skyrim.. so your constantly having to repirate the newest version when SKSE adds new API's.

To be clear, all of these are defeatable but it does slow you down, if I have to spend even an extra hour or two making sure my 100+ modlist works.. it's hard to justify not just buying Skyrim on sale for 4 dollars.

 

[Cohesion]

Script extender usually requires the original games to work if you install mod that dont require the script extender they will work but for more complex mod requiring it is hella tricky the moment you try to install the script extender it will register an error as the original client is not found. At least in skyrim not sure on older bethesda games.

That's simply not true, lol.

SKSE to my knowledge has not integrated any copyright check.. Lots of mods do though. FNIS for example will attempt to detect a legal copy. Vortex I think is trying now too.
Also SKSE will only cut releases for the latest copy of Skyrim.. so your constantly having to repirate the newest version when SKSE adds new API's.

To be clear, all of these are defeatable but it does slow you down, if I have to spend even an extra hour or two making sure my 100+ modlist works.. it's hard to justify not just buying Skyrim on sale for 4 dollars.

Yeah, but we are talking about $60+ preorder and zero mods, not about $4 sale and 100+ mods.

 

[Gargaune]

Confirmed there's only two armour slots.

What? No! How will I play pretty dress-up with my starwaifu with only two slots?!

TOOOOOOOODDDD!

 

[Immortal]

Yeah, but we are talking about $60+ preorder and zero mods, not about $4 sale and 100+ mods.

Yea, Pirate away.. but there's a serious diminishing return on it. 2 years from now when the game is 10 cents on the dollar and there's a bajillion mods out for it that rely heavily on specific in-memory offsets for script extenders that break every 5 minutes.. it's really just easier to buy the thing.

 

[Be Kind Rewind]

Codex: I'm too cool for walking simulators

also Codex: I'm so very angry that I can't walk a straight line for 40 minutes on an empty planet without a load screen. because that's what I really wanted to do in this game

Zionbrah with his usual 4chan/reddit tainted shill take. We all knew Starfield would be a shit game specifically designed for niggers by a bunch of landwhales from the day it was announced, the BG3 coomers smoking the same copium pipe they've been inhaling since Oblivion would have you believe it will be worth it for pornography. Mods have never fixed a Bethesda game, the "adult" content is dogshit that can only appeal to permavirgins like Crispy or a teen who hasn't yet seen a woman naked in person.

Why is it important that you're going to hit an invisible wall and that the area you land on is a couple of instanced GameBryo cells thrown together at random? Because the entire draw of the space exploration genre is the freedom that implies. As shit as "immersive" exploration walking sims are the implication is that you as the player is put into the gameworld and free to do whatever you want unrestricted. The excuse for the shit combat since Ultima 7 has been that being able to go anywhere and do whatever has been worth the tradeoff. It's shit because it doesn't contribute to gameplay, but the same is the case for all of Bethesda's features. How does giving the player the ability to stuff a room full of cheesewheels (or more appropriately watermelons) into a tiny room make the game better? Imsims might have some wishywashy excuse of the player being able to stack them to climb a fence or use them as projectiles with telekinesis against lactose allergic enemies or something. Bethesda games don't.

The retarded Toddian sales pitch, that you can go wherever you want, do whatever you want, is the glue that binds the 15 year old's porno mods together. It also happens to be the fantasy of space games that feature planetary landings and procedural generation. You can't buzz over an abandoned alien ruin, land, and investigate at will. See those points of interests on the map? They're not really on the same planet, or even same dimension. Not only is the player unable to land the ship himself, use a vehicle to take in the scope of how large a planet can be, but the generated zone goes against all the principles of this sort of game. The worst thing you can do in an Ultima clone is to limit the player, to have houses you can't enter for no good reason. Being without something in the distance that the player wants to get to. The whole idea behind this niche is that the game isn't built like a movie set, that there is something behind each door and no artificial limitations. Without that Bethesda games have nothing.

What makes it more embarrassing is that Sean Murray and a small indie team of developers delivered on the promise of a fully explorable space sim with seamless landings from space to ground, and that was back in 2016, on the previous gen hardware. See that house? You can enter it. See that horizon? You can drive there. The scope is delivered on, even if the game itself could never compete with entirely handcrafted cinematic set pieces that games like Mass Effect and others have delivered. No space station in No Man's Sky can ever be as great as in Alien Isolation, and the world space can never be as interesting to explore as Outer Wilds (which also had seamless and totally freeform travel in one star system, made by five guys with a budget of a packet of bubble gum and a couple of toothpicks). But it did make good on the scope and you're never going to face invisible walls in that game.



Ever since Morrowind Bethesda has been marketing their games on the promise of tiny handcrafted square sandboxes with unrivaled freedom (not that this was ever used for anything remarkable in terms of gameplay, it's shallow as a puddle). This game flushes that down the drain.

 

[Cohesion]

Yeah, but we are talking about $60+ preorder and zero mods, not about $4 sale and 100+ mods.

Yea, Pirate away.. but there's a serious diminishing return on it. 2 years from now when the game is 10 cents on the dollar and there's a bajillion mods out for it that rely heavily on specific in-memory offsets for script extenders that break every 5 minutes.. it's really just easier to buy the thing.

So, don't pay for beta testing (aka release), pay for enhanced edition with mods? I'm okay with that.

 

[Immortal]

Yeah, but we are talking about $60+ preorder and zero mods, not about $4 sale and 100+ mods.

Yea, Pirate away.. but there's a serious diminishing return on it. 2 years from now when the game is 10 cents on the dollar and there's a bajillion mods out for it that rely heavily on specific in-memory offsets for script extenders that break every 5 minutes.. it's really just easier to buy the thing.

So, don't pay for beta testing (aka release), pay for enhanced edition with mods? I'm okay with that.

I didn't take my own advice for Baldurs Gate 3.. and now I'm sitting in the cuckshed watching my Upper City get railed by Swen.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Starfield in No Man's Sky, but without redemption arc.

The redemption arc is the mods.

Pron modders in a few days:

24h, just I said to Larianshil. And I talk about proper "big boob body mods", not "softer dongs for men".

 

[Cohesion]

Starfield in No Man's Sky, but without redemption arc.

The redemption arc is the mods.

Pron modders in a few days:

24h, just I said to Larianshil. And I talk about proper "big boob body mods", not "softer dongs for men".

Pron mods won't redeem this game's faults.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Starfield in No Man's Sky, but without redemption arc.

The redemption arc is the mods.

Pron modders in a few days:

24h, just I said to Larianshil. And I talk about proper "big boob body mods", not "softer dongs for men".

Pron mods won't redeem this game faults.

Yes. But will make this clunky shooter better experience. Just look on other Bethesda clunky shooters.

 

[soutaiseiriron]

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[Be Kind Rewind]

Lovely Feather Pillow, here's the TL;DR.

TL;DR

 

[Be Kind Rewind]

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Here's the version for niggers that can't read, the target audience for this game:

Video games about exploration should facilitate exploration. Game will probably still sell well since niggers have the memory of a goldfish and aren't bothered by the fishbowl design.

 

[racofer]

Script extender usually requires the original games to work if you install mod that dont require the script extender they will work but for more complex mod requiring it is hella tricky the moment you try to install the script extender it will register an error as the original client is not found. At least in skyrim not sure on older bethesda games.

That's simply not true, lol.

SKSE to my knowledge has not integrated any copyright check.. Lots of mods do though. FNIS for example will attempt to detect a legal copy. Vortex I think is trying now too.
Also SKSE will only cut releases for the latest copy of Skyrim.. so your constantly having to repirate the newest version when SKSE adds new API's.

To be clear, all of these are defeatable but it does slow you down, if I have to spend even an extra hour or two making sure my 100+ modlist works.. it's hard to justify not just buying Skyrim on sale for 4 dollars.

All of those worked with pirated Skyrim.

But anyway, all of that is pointless now that the GOG version exists. Pirate and original versions are now exactly the same.

Also, there was never a need to "repirate" anything. Cracks were made available for every new version, as well as incremental patches whenever necessary.

 

[Cohesion]

snip

Here's the version for niggers that can't read, the target audience for this game:

Video games about exploration should facilitate exploration. Game will probably still sell well since niggers have the memory of a goldfish and aren't bothered by the fishbowl design.

- "How would you feel if there wasn't invisible barrier?"
- "Sheeeit, what do you mean??"

 

[La vie sexuelle]

snip

Here's the version for niggers that can't read, the target audience for this game:

Video games about exploration should facilitate exploration. Game will probably still sell well since niggers have the memory of a goldfish and aren't bothered by the fishbowl design.

- "How would you feel if there wasn't invisible barrier?"
- "Sheeeit, what do you mean??"

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

Lovely Feather Pillow, here's the TL;DR.

TL;DR

Sean Murray is a hack and No Man’s Sky is still trash after 10 years of patches.

Remember that burning question everyone had before No Man’s Sky dropped — “but what do you do?” Todd Howard is about to answer that.

 

[Immortal]

Remember that burning question everyone had before No Man’s Sky dropped — “but what do you do?” Todd Howard LoversLab is about to answer that.

FTFY

 

[Dr1f7]

why do i get the feeling that the whole space part of this game will boil down to "eve does it better"
then what's left?

 

[Gargaune]

then what's left?

 

[RobotSquirrel]

Motion blur has a bad reputation because it looked terrible in older games. Modern games usually employ more sophisticated per-object and per-pixel motion blur. Unless improperly implemented, this is a good thing and should be enabled for better smoothness and fluidity of movement.

As is the case with pretty much all post-processing effects, they're not meant to be used as a full screen always on solution. They are purely situational effects.
In the case of Motion blur it should only be used in the context of lenses just like lens flare and depth of field should be, these effects don't occur like that in the human eye they are far far more subtle, and for the situations where they would occur is in fact outside the scope of what game engines can pull off (eg. Depth of Field on something being too close to your eyes, can't do it because the near clipping plane in games is too shallow to the point where the object will just clip through the camera). Chromatic Aberration has its uses but specifically in relation to emulating old CRTs or projectors or old film cameras, instead the industry thinks "this will make a good damage indicator and not be annoying as shit right?".

The industry doesn't know how to use post-processing properly, it still treats it as a fad after-thought which is why its always used as a full screen effect. Its supposed to be used situational like a shader would be on a per object basis.

 

[Robotigan]

Okay, okay. I was wrong about the planets.