Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Sunsetspawn]

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Man, Bethesda at least seems like one of the last studios still trying to make games. They could achieve so much by just putting some little effort into their games.

They know exactly who their audience is and what they want

Honestly I am not angry for what they did to TES anymore, I am just saddened and disapointed...
But I understand, why they did it. Morrowind was the product of a desperate situation. They were going down, so might as well go down doing something that first and foremost appealed to their creative "needs", rather than their finacial ones
Can't blame then for going commercial, as not wanting to stare down those prospects again
Best we can hope for is Todd deciding to take major risks with his final game project, when once again he'll have nothing to lose...

Jess is better looking than any of the women we've seen in the game.

A comely lass, that's for sure

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Here's a list of Traits shown so far :

 

[Sunsetspawn]

Jess is better looking than any of the women we've seen in the game.

A comely lass, that's for sure

Who we can only assume is a massively passive-aggressive cunt to her hairdresser.

 

[Wunderbar]

 

[Just Locus]

Here's a list of Traits shown so far :

I love how Bethesda treats starfield like fallout more than their actual fallout games lmao

 

[MajorMace]

Let's rehabilitate Todd.
Isn't he one of the most long-lasting designers in his field anyway ? Many have already quit this industry, but the Todd is still here. He's still pushing the genre forward. He just can't help himself, he has to bring new mechanics, innovative ways to handle the specificity of this medium and ahahahah nvm I just can't.

 

[Tihskael]

The Todd with his 6'3" intimidating frame and bulging biceps. Gosh what a specimen. Not to mention the fucking hair.

 

[Caim]

Let's rehabilitate Todd.
Isn't he one of the most long-lasting designers in his field anyway ? Many have already quit this industry, but the Todd is still here. He's still pushing the genre forward. He just can't help himself, he has to bring new mechanics, innovative ways to handle the specificity of this medium and ahahahah nvm I just can't.

Todd was in his late 20s when he directed Daggerfall, and that was 24 years ago. He's still young enough to be full of optimism and hope and Skyrim rereleases.

 

[Child of Malkav]

So I'm curious: how will the new dialogue system work? From what I'm getting, you have 3 chances to persuade someone by gaining between 1-4 points (per turn) with choices being color coded (green - 1, yellow - 2 and 3, red - 4) and color possibly being affected by a speech skill (kinda like how it was in FO4 with the green, yellow, red options showing difficulty of the check based on how much charisma you had) until you equal or pass the target number of points required to convince the NPC. Did I miss something? Anyway, it seems interesting. Funny thing though: when he spoke of the persuasion system, about how not wanting players to enter a special mode during dialogue when they initiate the persuasion system, well, that was exactly what happened in the in-game footage: you select the persuasion option and the it opens up a menu that shows all the choices from 1 to 4 for you to make.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Funny thing though: when he spoke of the persuasion system, about how not wanting players to enter a special mode during dialogue when they initiate the persuasion system, well, that was exactly what happened in the in-game footage: you select the persuasion option and the it opens up a menu that shows all the choices from 1 to 4 for you to make.

It's still part of the dialogue system though.
Contrast to Oblivion's awful persuasion minigame. Laudable for attempting to shake up one of the worst features of RPGs, but it was terrible.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Let's rehabilitate Todd.

Honestly his game design philosphy is pretty solid :

• Great games are played not made - "You can have the biggest design document ever made, and you will change 90% of it once you play the game. You have to be ready to throw out your ideas that you think are the greatest."
• Keep it simple - "Doing something really well takes time, more time than you think. Simple systems acting together create complexity players can appreciate."
• Define the experience - "Don't define your game by a list of bullet points... define it by the experience you want people to have."

Four levels of player experience:

1. Learn. The first thing a player is doing is learning the game.
2. Play. They just want to have fun.
3. Challenge. People want to win, so a game should have challenge but always give the player a way out.
4. Surprise. Show players something new. And then repeat this four-point cycle.

He said developers should ignore demographics and installed base, and follow their passions, saying that "if install base really mattered, we'd all make board games, because there are a lot of tables".

 

[The_Mask]

The Todd with his 6'3" intimidating frame and bulging biceps. Gosh what a specimen. Not to mention the fucking hair.

They had to work those camera angles hard for him to look just as tall as the lady.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The Todd with his 6'3" intimidating frame and bulging biceps. Gosh what a specimen. Not to mention the fucking hair.

They had to work those camera angles hard for him to look just as tall as the lady.

She must have been at least 7'

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Let's rehabilitate Todd.

Honestly his game design philosphy is pretty solid :

• Great games are played not made - "You can have the biggest design document ever made, and you will change 90% of it once you play the game. You have to be ready to throw out your ideas that you think are the greatest."
• Keep it simple - "Doing something really well takes time, more time than you think. Simple systems acting together create complexity players can appreciate."
• Define the experience - "Don't define your game by a list of bullet points... define it by the experience you want people to have."

Four levels of player experience:

1. Learn. The first thing a player is doing is learning the game.
2. Play. They just want to have fun.
3. Challenge. People want to win, so a game should have challenge but always give the player a way out.
4. Surprise. Show players something new. And then repeat this four-point cycle.

He said developers should ignore demographics and installed base, and follow their passions, saying that "if install base really mattered, we'd all make board games, because there are a lot of tables".

Todd Howard has better taste in RPGs than the large majority of Codexers.

 

[Talby]

The main quest will focus on the search for progenitors, an ancient alien civilization that created life on Earth. So you'll be searching for mankind's dad.

 

[kain30]

The main quest will focus on the search for progenitors, an ancient alien civilization that created life on Earth. So you'll be searching for mankind's dad.

I´m sure you are right, bethesda is not original with their main quests plots.

 

[__scribbles__]

I´m sure you are right, bethesda is not original with their main quests plots.

Bethesda should just drop their main stories entirely and put you in the world without any main narrative. Non-scripted stories in their newer games are more interesting anyways.

 

[Utgard-Loki]

Let's rehabilitate Todd.

Honestly his game design philosphy is pretty solid :

• Great games are played not made - "You can have the biggest design document ever made, and you will change 90% of it once you play the game. You have to be ready to throw out your ideas that you think are the greatest."
• Keep it simple - "Doing something really well takes time, more time than you think. Simple systems acting together create complexity players can appreciate."
• Define the experience - "Don't define your game by a list of bullet points... define it by the experience you want people to have."

Four levels of player experience:

1. Learn. The first thing a player is doing is learning the game.
2. Play. They just want to have fun.
3. Challenge. People want to win, so a game should have challenge but always give the player a way out.
4. Surprise. Show players something new. And then repeat this four-point cycle.

He said developers should ignore demographics and installed base, and follow their passions, saying that "if install base really mattered, we'd all make board games, because there are a lot of tables".

Todd Howard has better taste in RPGs than the large majority of Codexers.

it's really too bad he never actually combines the games he really likes to play with games he actually develops. i mean, beyond the "riding around on horseback killing things" part.

 

[Zombra]

I´m sure you are right, bethesda is not original with their main quests plots.

Bethesda should just drop their main stories entirely and put you in the world without any main narrative. Non-scripted stories in their newer games are more interesting anyways.

I'd prefer if they focused on making MQs that aren't childish and embarrassing. FIND YOUR MOMMY really, really isn't great; but I do appreciate games that have a central motivation underlying everything, to give your character any reason to get out of bed. At a glance, "There are a bunch of mysterious alien artifacts out there we'd like to understand some day" isn't bad at all; it's substantial enough to drive me if I have no other agenda, but nebulous enough that I can pursue side content (or make up my own motivators) instead if I don't feel inspired to stay on track.

 

[racofer]

 

[__scribbles__]

I'd prefer if they focused on making MQs that aren't childish and embarrassing. FIND YOUR MOMMY really, really isn't great; but I do appreciate games that have a central motivation underlying everything, to give your character any reason to get out of bed. At a glance, "There are a bunch of mysterious alien artifacts out there we'd like to understand some day" isn't bad at all; it's substantial enough to drive me if I have no other agenda, but nebulous enough that I can pursue side content (or make up my own motivators) instead if I don't feel inspired to stay on track.

If we're going to keep MQs then that's absolutely the best option.
But for me, Bethesda games' biggest strengths are their worlds(shocker, I know). Removing the main questline would not only improve the role-playing aspect of their games as you can make your character's motivation more "your own", but also remove one of the biggest issues with their recent titles: the disconnect between the urgent storyline and explore-at-your-own-pace gameplay.
Removing the MQ from Fallout 4 and Skyrim would make the character lose the motivation that already exists, but it would also incentivize the player to make their own backstory and motivations and thus the player feels closer to their character. It would also remove that "Wait, I've just been picking flowers and making potions for the past few weeks, aren't I supposed to save the world from destruction or something?" moment I often personally have while playing Bethesda games.

IMO, Bethesda's games are a perfect fit for the do-whatever-the-fuck-you-want kind of style seen in, for example, Kenshi and DayZ. Those types of games thrive on the type of player-driven storytelling that's already strong in Bethesda games.

 

[Just Locus]

The main quest will focus on the search for progenitors, an ancient alien civilization that created life on Earth. So you'll be searching for mankind's dad.

I´m sure you are right, bethesda is not original with their main quests plots.

yes they are not orgyinal. its not like its part of decades long planned programming by deep state to prepare controlled alien disclousure to the cattle, i mean general human population, and present hostile ets as angel like saviours of humanity.

oh wait it actually is.


btw most if not all residents of swastika shaped nazi base on dark side of moon were recently liquified by aliens after they done enough repair to pre adamite tech there. nazi scum so weak and gullible.

I read your post 5 times in a row, and I still don't know what you're saying.

 

[KateMicucci]

it's really too bad he never actually combines the games he really likes to play with games he actually develops. i mean, beyond the "riding around on horseback killing things" part.

It would be great if TES VI has mounted combat. Including mounted enemies.

 

[__scribbles__]

lol wtf u talking about.

swastika shaped nazi base on dark side of moon were recently liquified by aliens after they done enough repair to pre adamite tech there.

Dude.