Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[racofer]

Wait a fucking minute.

I thought it was 100mil not 400mil?

This is like 5x the failure of ME: Andromeda.

SIXTEEN TIMES THE FAILURE

 

[Stavrophore]

They *sort* of look good at a glance, but once you start looking at the detail it's all fucked up.

Yes, that's the most prominent issue in the graphics department. Bethesda doesn't even have a proper terrain blending model between the landscape and meshes. Maybe starfield had fixed this idk.

 

[Darkwind]

It seems to have generated some spicy reactions.

Loosing your shit oover vidya gaymes when you are 40+ is just pathetic.

He is not wrong though, is he? It is sooooo played out. Pronouns, trannies, gender ambiguity, nig-nogs, yeah, we get it! You are so 'progessive & edgy' The funny part is, they consider themselves 'rebels' when they are the most conformist and compliant corporate & governmental sheep and paypigs that have ever lived.

Want to know what is rebellious circa 2023? Straight white male. Blond hair blue eyes, no tats, no fucking metal in your face. Edgy AF!

 

[GamingConnoisseur]

Do all merchants sell the same stuff? I've been to the cowboy town, Mars, New Atlantis, and they all sell the same crappy items.

 

[Rahdulan]

This was apparently his real trigger.

 

[JamesDixon]

Do all merchants sell the same stuff? I've been to the cowboy town, Mars, New Atlantis, and they all sell the same crappy items.

You're asking a bunch of diversity hires with a collective IQ of 50 to be creative... That's a bit much don't you think?

 

[Late Bloomer]

He is not wrong though, is he?

Nope, he isn't. I just have an aversion to most streamers/youtubers.

 

[El Presidente]

I'm really not a big fan of these superlatives and never say these things but I do think this is pretty much THE worst RPG ever made, all things considered. The staggering amount of insulting and face melting woke shit in it, making it BY FAR the worst game ever in this regard, paired with the game itself being your typical collection of unpolished Bethesda shite and the most soul-devoid setting, UI and OST I have ever seen in my life. It feels AI generated, the entire thing. It's hard to believe it isn't, in fact.

It's also pretty revolting how this is Bethesda flipping us the middle finger and saying, no, they won't learn with time, they won't improve over time, they won't put more effort with time, they will still serve you their 2006 game with a different coat of paint over it and charge you $100 and you better thank them for it. This attitude in itself is enough to dislike this shit.

 

[Vic]

doing the main quest I can really see why people are hating on the game, calling it a laoding screen simulator and saying outer worlds is better. You know what, the main quest in outer worlds might even be better, at least it has character. I greatly enjoyed the game before I started the main quest and I can't wait to be done with it, or at least progressed far enough until I know I have unlocked everything to go back to exploration.

 

[JamesDixon]

I'm really not a big fan of these superlatives and never say these things but I do think this is pretty much THE worst RPG ever made, all things considered. The staggering amount of insulting and face melting woke shit in it, making it BY FAR the worst game ever in this regard, paired with the game itself being your typical collection of unpolished Bethesda shite and the most soul-devoid setting, UI and OST I have ever seen in my life. It feels AI generated, the entire thing. It's hard to believe it isn't, in fact.

It's also pretty revolting how this is Bethesda flipping us the middle finger and saying, no, they won't learn with time, they won't improve over time, they won't put more effort with time, they will still serve you their 2006 game with a different coat of paint over it and charge you $100 and you better thank them for it. This attitude in itself is enough to dislike this shit.

AI can produce better results...

 

[Cancer Clancy]

Various quests constantly take me to hand-crafted settlements on different planets, and they're really nicely designed.

Mind taking some screenies of them and posting them on here?

 

[El Presidente]

This is what a 25-years-in-the-making AAA UI looks like

 

[racofer]

I'M OUTTA HERE

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

Jeremy Soule got tangled in metoo shit? Tell me more.

i just can't believe this. his music sucked so much cock i'm sure he did too.

 

[Vic]

This is what a 25-years-in-the-making AAA UI looks like

All of these perk badges change their icon each time you upgrade them, so that's a lot of design work for a skill tree, probably the most effort they ever put into one.

Also this:

 

[JamesDixon]

I'M OUTTA HERE

It's amazing that they recycled the Dragonborn powers....

 

[Tyranicon]

This is what a 25-years-in-the-making AAA UI looks like

I personally think it's really nice that AAA studios piss away their budgets on zero-talent NPC hires so indies can out-compete them on every front.

 

[anvi]

"Terrible restaurant! No steak or wine, no fresh fish, the food was cold, bland, covered in salt, and no cutlery! Screaming kids everywhere. Very poor restaurant this McDonalds."

 

[darkpatriot]

Other notes:
-The culture warriors are exaggerating. New Atlantis is nowhere close to all black. It isn't even majority black. There are plenty of white people, both in randomly generated pedestrians and quests/permanent NPCs. No one racial group is in the majority for background NPCs, so white-skinned characters are a minority, but neither are black people, Asians, Indians, or Hispanic/mixed characters. For quest/permenant NPCs there are a higher percentage of white characters. About 40% I'd say, eyeballing it. And while forced diversity like that can be annoying when present in fantasy or historical games without a good explanation, that level of diversity makes plenty of sense for a sci-fi game. That is just based on New Atlantis though, as I haven't really visited the other factions major settlements yet.

Women are also not in all the positions of power while men are just there to be made fun of. I have encountered many powerful men, sometimes even powerful white men, in leadership positions while the very first character I encountered being mocked like that is actually a woman. When entering new Atlantis you encounter a group who had fled from a station that was attacked. The leader of that outpost, a woman, is acting like a complete selfish incompetent (Karen) and she didn't even properly handld the evacuation. The only reason that anyone escaped was actually due to the actions of an older white male, who is presented as the hero of the tale. That woman is promised a new job commensurate to her abilities, and you later find her working in a coffee shop, but being incompetent there as well.

If the very idea of a non-white character in a video game or position of power not held by a man sends you into a frenzy, good luck with that, but the claims that there are almost no non-white characters and that the ones there are are for comic relief is a straight up lie.

I was annoyed to see the pronoun stuff make it's way into yet another character creator, though. Although, so far only one gay couple presented (and also in the background) while there have been at least half a dozen straight couples I have encountered. So far they seem to be sticking to fairly realistic ratios for that rather than making 70% of all couples gay as happens with some games that embrace the woke.

You are full of shit. New Atlantis is easily 80% black, 10% brown mutt, 5% brown asian, 5% white/tanned white. The leaders of almost all important factions and positions of power are women/black. The history of the world, where the dead or missing people are spoken of, who held positions of power, are also black/women. You are a lying troll who defends this shit every single chance you get.

You are either lying or your senses have been scrambled due to internet culture wars. You seem to be classifying every non-white you see as black, but among the generated background NPCs about 10-20% are white, and more than that are Asian. Like east asian, not Indian, and you don't even include East Asians in your list. Actual black seems to be at about 1/3rd at most, with maybe as many as that being light skinned brown which could be hispanic or some other mixed background.

And among the named/permanent NPCs, it is like 30-40% white.

I'm not sure how a person could possibly think that 80% of New Atlantis NPCs are black if they have actually played the game, even if you counted all the lighter brown mixed NPCs as black too. Not unless there is some big difference in the algorithm for how random NPCs are generated in people's games or something.

Regarding men in positions of power, real quickly off the top of my head the head of the church in New Atlantis is a white guy, the CEO at constellation is a white guy. I am constantly seeing lots of other important NPCs in positons of power are white guys such as the head of the head of security at the Mars mining town. Did a quest where you help an up and coming young white executive for a company clear his name and stop the villain trying to frame him, who was a hispanic guy. Pretty much every settlement I go to has white guys in important positions. There are even more if you are willing to consider non-white dudes in positions of authority.

I don't know what you mean by important faction leader but I imagine you make try and limit the definition in such a way as to exclude the numerous white male NPCs in important positions of authority.

 

[Fedora Master]

Tried scanning a planet - I can already tell this is NMS levels of tedium. In fact, at least NMS looks somewhat interesting. This is just drab garbage with ugly environments, ugly buildings and ugly people.

 

[markec]

I'M OUTTA HERE

 

[Haba]

You got to complete the game at least seven times to get the true ending (blue). NG+7 or bust!

 

[Vic]

I'm not sure how a person could possibly think that 80% of New Atlantis NPCs are black if they have actually played the game

Okay, let's take a look, I photographed everybody I could see around the fountain area:

Spoiler

Blacks: 7
Asians: 4
Whites (loosely): 7

So it actually does seem pretty mixed, interesting!

 

[Robotigan]

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This vitiligo shit needs to STOP. I've never seen anyone with the condition in my LIFE.

And it's everywhere now, games, commercials, and soon probably movies (if it isn't already).

But hey, BOTH SIDES right?

You stupid motherfuckers for not understanding you should all have gone scortched earth with this woke crap.

There was a time when I was more sympathetic to conservative conerns over SJW (this was before the term "woke" took off) preachiness and naivete. I agree it doesn't make much sense for everywhere to be a diverse, multi-ethnic hub straight out of a corporate DEI program. But then I ran up into the thing that presumably turns off every other educated person off when they try to deal with conservative thought. Conservatives are fucking luddites. Like say you're a geologist who believes in traditional family values but you're also studying groundwater reservoirs and notice current agricultural practices are exploiting the resource too rapidly which will lead to poor crop yields and sinkholes in a decade or so. If you try to point this out to a conservative, they will call you a woke soyjak and invent conspiracies for why your data was fabricated by Soros in an effort to use regulatory standards to pacify and control the population. At that point your cultural concerns become secondary to the fact that a buch of moronic hicks are going to destroy the local industry and then beg for bailouts all the while never even realizing that their own dumbassery caused the problem in the first place.

 

[whydoibother]

This is what a 25-years-in-the-making AAA UI looks like

I personally think it's really nice that AAA studios piss away their budgets on zero-talent NPC hires so indies can out-compete them on every front.

Or maybe "we are a family" and "we are a tightly knit team" and so on. As in, I get to spend the shareholder's money to pay wages to me, my cousin, my aunt, and all our friends, while the interns develop the game.