Stellaris - Paradox new sci-fi grand strategy game

[Average Manatee]

The new DLC is apparently hilariously imbalanced, I'd guess that multiplayer balance was the last of their concerns.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

The new DLC is apparently hilariously imbalanced, I'd guess that multiplayer balance was the last of their concerns.

Doesn't matter. I'm talking about overall philosophy, not their bad QC. The game has been homogenized on virtually every level almost from the time it was released.

 

[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

Talby can blame the new habitat mechanics on retard ai.

 

[thesecret1]

Habitat shit (and the garbage attempts at solvibg it) are all mere consequence of a core issue in Stellaris design which is the dogshit macro. You basically have to micro your planets unless you want the AI to ruin them with retarded building decisions, which quickly gets out of hand once you get a couple dozen of them (which is quite easy). Habitats just ramp that issue up to 11.

 

[Mortmal]

Autobuild doesn't even use the new building types you get with each new origin. If it was bad before, consider it's even worse now. Anyway, I'm not using it. I'm fed up with seeing it build gene clinics and robot assembly on already overcrowded planets full of unemployment. Stellaris is a micro hell now.

 

[lycanwarrior]

Stellaris gets a DLC about AI that features AI-created voices, director insists it's 'ethical' and 'we're pretty good at exploring dystopian sci-fi and don't want to end up there ourselves'​

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/strat...i-fi-and-dont-want-to-end-up-there-ourselves/

 

[Cologno]

Ethics in business, like war, is lulzy and irrelevant. It's something you listen to, a lecture you tolerate while in the front of your mind you're really thinking "damn diversity hire they wrangled into blabbering about this looks worse than last year's, bubble but though".

 

[Tyrr]

I have listened to all the selectable adviser voices, most of them are bad. He should just be honest and say that AI is cheaper and better.
Also more flexible. You can make last minute changes or additions. With human VA, the voices often get recorded months in advance and the developer is forced to run with what they have.

 

[Fedora Master]

AI could probably come up with better systems than PDX.

 

[Camel]

Stellaris is a micro hell now.

Always has been.

 

[Cogemesiter]

Holy shit even with the Steam Sale going on this game plus the DLCs is still super expensive, even more expensive than getting all the Rimworld DLC. At this point I might as well just download 500 mods on Starsector to get a similar experience for free.

 

[Average Manatee]

Autobuild doesn't even use the new building types you get with each new origin. If it was bad before, consider it's even worse now. Anyway, I'm not using it. I'm fed up with seeing it build gene clinics and robot assembly on already overcrowded planets full of unemployment. Stellaris is a micro hell now.

You can configure it to build or not build various things. I made a mod that adds a bunch of options to more effectively manage planets: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162118092

 

[Fedora Master]

Holy shit even with the Steam Sale going on this game plus the DLCs is still super expensive, even more expensive than getting all the Rimworld DLC. At this point I might as well just download 500 mods on Starsector to get a similar experience for free.

If you take your base Stellaris with CREAM the price becomes reasonable.

 

[Seethe]

Ethics in business, like war, is lulzy and irrelevant. It's something you listen to, a lecture you tolerate while in the front of your mind you're really thinking "damn diversity hire they wrangled into blabbering about this looks worse than last year's, bubble but though".

Until you get fired because Indian workforce is cheaper and bigger. Then you wake up from your juvenile libertarian haze of idiocy and stop being only halfway retarded for caring about this sort of stuff until it affected you personally. Or, you continue to be a cuckold with no sense of self preservation, no self-interest and keep your shitty libertarian views that are thinly veiled by this sort of cringy fatalism.

He should just be honest and say that AI is cheaper and better.

Whoever thinks this is massively retarded, has hearing problems or worse, has autism and doesn't know how communication sounds like. It really feels like a mantra at this point, because you think it's really cool and repeating it over and over again makes it true.

More features that lead to degenerate Cookie Clicker gameplay

I personally can't wait for AI to develop further. Voice Acting aside from few cases is detrimental to RPGs and pretty much any non moviegame.

This is true. The problem is that if "AI" develops further, you'll hear "voice acting" in every single game. So, what is your end goal here?

 

[Mortmal]

Autobuild doesn't even use the new building types you get with each new origin. If it was bad before, consider it's even worse now. Anyway, I'm not using it. I'm fed up with seeing it build gene clinics and robot assembly on already overcrowded planets full of unemployment. Stellaris is a micro hell now.

You can configure it to build or not build various things. I made a mod that adds a bunch of options to more effectively manage planets: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162118092

At 25 euro price tags for small dlc, you'd expect them to have this by default.

 

[Mortmal]

This is true. The problem is that if "AI" develops further, you'll hear "voice acting" in every single game. So, what is your end goal here?

End goal:

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

i tried this vanilla. i knew dlcs already were all about stealing stuff from mods, but damn, the game now is almost the same as my modded one 4 years ago. it still lacks a lot of stuff (creating a new species with so few traits is painful) and the interface is still shit. no, wait, it's actually worse with the splitting of planets and ships. ai is civ6 level braindead, three wars in a row without being actually attacked.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Until you get fired because Indian workforce is cheaper and bigger. Then you wake up from your juvenile libertarian haze of idiocy and stop being only halfway retarded for caring about this sort of stuff until it affected you personally. Or, you continue to be a cuckold with no sense of self preservation, no self-interest and keep your shitty libertarian views that are thinly veiled by this sort of cringy fatalism.

It really doesn't matter what your views on it are. It matters what your company's views are, and what their competition's views are.

Form a union and get fired. Or succeed and your company goes under while the other companies hire Indians. Same with AI, outsourcing, whatever.

There was a time when elevators had operators that rode with you up and down the building. When automated elevators came out, they lost their jobs. They tried to stop it with a union etc., but that just got them fired faster.

This is true. The problem is that if "AI" develops further, you'll hear "voice acting" in every single game. So, what is your end goal here?

Depending on the game, this could be an improvement. TES games had the worst voice acting. But I doubt AAA games will wholesale replace VAs until the tech improves to be indistinguishable from actors.

 

[Space Satan]

I know several such places

 

[Lemming42]

This is true. The problem is that if "AI" develops further, you'll hear "voice acting" in every single game. So, what is your end goal here?

The benefit is that devs would save on VA budgets and be able to focus that money elsewhere. I'm not a fan of AI voice acting at all myself and would literally always prefer a human actor even if their performance is awful, but for a lot of indie projects or games where voice acting isn't really necessary, AI provides a decent way to have full VA without crippling costs.

A good use for it is in adjusting a human actor's performance - a dev could do all the voices by themself, and then use AI to preserve their performance but change the voice depending on the character (eg changing sex, making it deeper for Orcs and lighter for Elves, adding or refining accents, etc), which is the best of both worlds since it saves on costs and you still get the benefits of a real human actor.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

I can see AI voicing in the future becoming pretty much companies purchasing the rights to a voice actor's voice.

 

[Alienman]

Imagine the scramble for the rights of legendary voice actors if that ever becomes a thing. The rights for Patrick Stewart will go for millions, and you will hear him in every game from that studio/publisher from here on

 

[Fedora Master]

Imagine the scramble for the rights of legendary voice actors if that ever becomes a thing. The rights for Patrick Stewart will go for millions, and you will hear him in every game from that studio/publisher from here on

The same will happen with likenesses of actors. Schwarzenegger will be with us forever.

 

[thesecret1]

Imagine the scramble for the rights of legendary voice actors if that ever becomes a thing. The rights for Patrick Stewart will go for millions, and you will hear him in every game from that studio/publisher from here on

The same will happen with likenesses of actors. Schwarzenegger will be with us forever.

Nah. Actors fade away from memory with each generation. I've recently heard a zoomer go "Who the fuck is Bruce Willis?"

 

[Average Manatee]

Imagine the first generation of actors who end up being immortalized by AI and exist forever in our media being a bunch of tik tok zoomer tards.

Sorry if that caused any brain damage.