Putting the 'role' back in role-playing games since 2002.
Donate to Codex
Good Old Games
  • Welcome to rpgcodex.net, a site dedicated to discussing computer based role-playing games in a free and open fashion. We're less strict than other forums, but please refer to the rules.

    "This message is awaiting moderator approval": All new users must pass through our moderation queue before they will be able to post normally. Until your account has "passed" your posts will only be visible to yourself (and moderators) until they are approved. Give us a week to get around to approving / deleting / ignoring your mundane opinion on crap before hassling us about it. Once you have passed the moderation period (think of it as a test), you will be able to post normally, just like all the other retards.

Elder Scrolls The appeal of Skyrim

Do you like Skyrim?

  • Yes, one of the best games ever made

  • Yes, it was alright, but i got bored with it.

  • Meh, not my type of RPG

  • It was a bad RPG, didn't like it

  • I am a sperg, i don't consider Skyrim to be an RPG, you fucking popamoler


Results are only viewable after voting.

Egosphere

Arcane
Joined
Jan 25, 2018
Messages
1,900
Location
Hibernia


This must be satire, he even states that human revolution was the best game he ever played up until skyrim.


No, philip likes sandbox games where you mess about with the mechanics. Character progression, narrative, world design etc. are all secondary. So skyrim really is his favourite game. Then again, it's not like he hates morrowind:

 

Bad Sector

Arcane
Patron
Joined
Mar 25, 2012
Messages
2,213
Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Codex Year of the Donut Codex+ Now Streaming! Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
I've mainly watched his level design videos (in his other channel) but i do not remember him ever saying anything too negative about any game he talked about. It wouldn't surprise me if he made a video series with "why X is the best game" where he just mentions what he liked about whatever games he played.

(also that part about nostalgia in the Skyrim video was certainly a joke, it is his brand of humor to make "controversial"/"outrageous" statements in a natural way)

EDIT: case in point

 
Last edited:

Cryomancer

Arcane
Glory to Ukraine
Joined
Jul 11, 2019
Messages
14,204
Location
Frostfell
there is no other game in the 360 era that is better in the RPG department
220px-Fallout_New_Vegas.jpg


there is no other game in the 360 era that did medieval fantasy action combat better than Skyrim either

Dark_Souls_Cover_Art.jpg

Now TWO games worse than skyrim on Action part and RPG part from 360 era
iu


iu

This games are so trash that even skyrim would be considered a masterpiece compared to this shit. Skyrim has a awful RPG, awful combat, but at least the combat is not about managing cooldowns and a endless stat stickie gear farming. TBH Skyrim did few things great. Exploration, mods, vampire lord form & soundtrack .But claiming that skyrim has good rpg or good combat, is pretty hard to find games WORSE than skyrim in this regards.
 
Joined
Sep 16, 2016
Messages
296
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic came out well before Skyrim (I remember hearing that designers from that game were going to try and help Skyrim have better melee combat after Oblivion, though I don't know if that's true or not) and has some of the best melee combat of all time. For everything there is to like about Skyrim, I don't believe for a second that it lived up to that legacy nor did it represent the worst of the genre. Seriously, it's fine to describe a game as having a mediocre element. It doesn't have to be the best or the worst at {given thing} to be best or worst at something else.
 
Unwanted
Dumbfuck
Joined
Dec 14, 2020
Messages
803
I wonder if in 5 years we'll have Andromeda apologist too. I enjoyed Skyrim but i was a dumb teen back then and it was one of my first western rpgs, i enjoyed mostly exploring the world but the game is barely an rpg and level scaling fucks the power fantasy too.Lets not get into how retarded some narrative in the game is like how you are obliged to give back an elder scroll to a fucking vampire lord while being a vampire hunter.
 

Max Damage

Savant
Joined
Mar 1, 2017
Messages
638
I wonder if in 5 years we'll have Andromeda apologist too. I enjoyed Skyrim but i was a dumb teen back then and it was one of my first western rpgs, i enjoyed mostly exploring the world but the game is barely an rpg and level scaling fucks the power fantasy too.Lets not get into how retarded some narrative in the game is like how you are obliged to give back an elder scroll to a fucking vampire lord while being a vampire hunter.
Downersguard is where I stopped playing when revisiting the game years ago, even by nuBethesda RPG-lite standards it was bad. Not only are you railroaded into playing idiot again, you also have no choice but to accept nagging Molag Bal's sloppy seconds as your tour guide. Almost everyone in Skyrim seems to be whiny, rude, retarded, or all three at once. Shame you can't let big evil dragon or vampire lord win, not that they appear to be any competent anyway.
 

Valdetiosi

Scholar
Joined
Apr 18, 2016
Messages
215
Location
Finland
Skyrim is the game where no matter what you play as, no matter what you look like, no matter how you mod it or LARP it like, you still end up to do the same thing at the end game.
Case in point;
YFPeX5t.png
 

Gahbreeil

Learned
Joined
Feb 9, 2021
Messages
781
Location
Asarlaíocht
A video game with nothing to prove other than that FPS players like FPP games and action games. It appeals to a broad audience. Role-Playing is at a minimal level. That is the appeal.
 

TemplarGR

Dumbfuck!
Dumbfuck Bethestard
Joined
May 30, 2013
Messages
5,815
Location
Cradle of Western Civilization
Skyrim is the game where no matter what you play as, no matter what you look like, no matter how you mod it or LARP it like, you still end up to do the same thing at the end game.
Case in point;
YFPeX5t.png

I know codexers are infantile manchildren who love memes and take them seriously, but really, the reason stealth archery was popular in Skyrim was not because it was the only viable way to play, but because it was so much enjoyable gameplay-wise.
 
Joined
May 6, 2009
Messages
1,875,871
Location
Glass Fields, Ruins of Old Iran
It's not the only viable way, just the most efficient since you simply have to crouch for a free 3x damage boost, and given how the class/race system works there's little reason to ever not open up a fight with a sneaky poisoned arrow, even if your character sucks at archery/alchemy/sneaking. The tutorial in Oblivion and Skyrim also tell you about it so most players are aware of the mechanic.

Also, I'm detecting some hostility here
 

Funposter

Arcane
Joined
Oct 19, 2018
Messages
1,767
Location
Australia
Yeah, getting mad at Skyrim stealth archery is like getting mad at Morrowind for being so focused on powerful enchanted gear. It's not a question of viability (these games are easy) more about what feels the best and what is overall the most efficient. The stealth archery meme could be avoided easily if the game didn't use a classless system, or at least offered better incentives to apply other playstyles. Reaching the "stealth archery>everything" stage probably means you've been playing one character for too long, anyway. The idea that "all characters inevitably become stealth archers" is one which relies on all character eventually reaching Level 80 or whatever the fuck and trying to suck the game dry of content on a single playthrough. Unfortunately, Skyrim encourages the player to do that, unlike earlier titles, which is probably why so many people encountered it.

Edit: Also the game in the series with the best character creation (Daggerfall) is the one with the least racial benefits/differences
 
Last edited:

Doktor Best

Arcane
Joined
Feb 2, 2015
Messages
2,848
Lets not forget that you can become leader of the mage guild by sweeping the floor and solving a kindergarten grade "puzzle" in a short ass dungeon that is in 5 minutes walking distance of the mage guild. Despite not being able to cast a single spell without the help of magic scrolls.

 

Fargus

Arcane
Joined
Apr 2, 2012
Messages
2,147
Location
Moscow
The most fun i've had playing Skyrim before i modded it into a porn game that surpases Honey Select 2 was when i played as a stealth character. And the only good guild there was the Thieves Guild. Plus Stephen Russel as a greedy thieves guild leader Mercer Frey was a nice touch.
 

gurugeorge

Arcane
Patron
Joined
Aug 3, 2019
Messages
7,351
Location
London, UK
Strap Yourselves In
Skyrim is a porn game. Not rpg.

It's quite an amusing situation really, Skyrim is perhaps the best porn sim in existence as a result of intensely dedicated crowdsourcing; but only for relatively high IQ nerds who are capable of getting the rickety construct up and running smoothly :)
 

KateMicucci

Arcane
Joined
Sep 2, 2017
Messages
1,676
I've been having a great time with a total conversion mod called Enderal. It got its final patch a few weeks ago. It's really good ajd I highly recommend it if you want a game that's like Skyrim, but better.

The first hour is pretty shit as there's a lot of story exposition at the start so bear with it. The real game doesn't start until you meet Johan Darth Vader or whatever his name is.
 
Self-Ejected

TheDiceMustRoll

Game Analist
Joined
Apr 18, 2016
Messages
761
I watched this for five minutes and he said Skyrim had no impact on the industry.

I'm not sure why the fuck he thinks that, considering how every AAA game in existence essentially went "WOW THKYRIM!" and turned good, linear and well-crafted environments into big fucking empty maps. You think Dragon Age Inquisition or Mass Effect Andromeda or the Witcher 3 went from linear, crafted experiences to "here's a big map you slut" for no reason? The most beloved Mass Effect and DA games were, in fact, the linear ones, and not a single ounce of the Witcher 3's content is improved at all by being in an Open World, it wouldn't make a lick of difference if it was all linear, or small open hubs a la TW2
 
Last edited:

As an Amazon Associate, rpgcodex.net earns from qualifying purchases.
Back
Top Bottom