Baldur's Gate The Baldur's Gate Series Thread

[Cael]

Alright, I was\ still intend to do another run of BG2, since I never really finished ToB, just got really close to the end. And I scoured the internet just for fun for alt portraits for shits and giggles, found some fun ones, but also found it weird nobody ever did an edit of the real photos they used for making the companion art. So here with my shitty gimp skills I did it myself for Vicky.

and with some lighting effects from gimp,

Can be used as a bmp portrait if you guys crop to the necessary sizes any way you want.

I mean, it sure beat the new wotc version

How the hell is Viconia a 2/3? She is legendary for her lack of constitution.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Alright, I was\ still intend to do another run of BG2, since I never really finished ToB, just got really close to the end. And I scoured the internet just for fun for alt portraits for shits and giggles, found some fun ones, but also found it weird nobody ever did an edit of the real photos they used for making the companion art. So here with my shitty gimp skills I did it myself for Vicky.

and with some lighting effects from gimp,

Can be used as a bmp portrait if you guys crop to the necessary sizes any way you want.

I mean, it sure beat the new wotc version

How the hell is Viconia a 2/3? She is legendary for her lack of constitution.

Buffs, heals, level 20, etc. who cares?

 

[Sarathiour]

If you're getting triggered by that, you probably should not look a the rest of the set.

The designer basically admitted not having played the game.

 

[Nano]

How the hell is Viconia a 2/3? She is legendary for her lack of constitution.

Constitution is not an essential stat in D&D. Especially in 2E where everything between 7 and 14 gives you the same HP modifier of 0.

 

[Cael]

How the hell is Viconia a 2/3? She is legendary for her lack of constitution.

Constitution is not an essential stat in D&D. Especially in 2E where everything between 7 and 14 gives you the same HP modifier of 0.

It affected how long you can run around before they cry about being tired.

 

[Lagole Gon]

How the hell is Viconia a 2/3? She is legendary for her lack of constitution.

Constitution is not an essential stat in D&D. Especially in 2E where everything between 7 and 14 gives you the same HP modifier of 0.

It affects the amount of beer you can drink in a tavern.

IIRC shapeshifted Cernd gets tipsy after 25 beers, totally drunk after 50.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Mazzy looks a bit different than I remember in the new official artwork.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Mazzy looks a bit different than I remember in the new official artwork.

Must be the constant exposure to UV due to that halo. It's like being in a tanning bed 24/7.

 

[Chippy]

I suppose it's too much to ask in today's world, but it amazes me that there are so many people who (I htink) are told if they want to get into game developing, the old days are over of just sending a CV in. You have to make a mod and show off your skills. So if I was in my 20s or so and wanted to become a game writer, I'd take a stab at rewriting the BG:EE characters.

I think I'd struggle to find 5 writers in the industry that are great. It's obviously a dying art. Or maybe I just need to be reminded that the art, imagination, inspiration, talent, and love of the setting is irrelevant and you just need the politics. Actually, considering the thread, don't remind me. I understand why but still haven't forgiven Chris Avellone for endorsing Amber Scott's writing of SOD.

 

[Cael]

The need to blackify characters is so predictable and boring. These guys are immature unimaginative hacks playing at being "creative".

 

[d1r]

The need to blackify characters is so predictable and boring. These guys are immature unimaginative hacks playing at being "creative".

Mazzy in BG2 having Dreadlocks was Cultural Appropriation. Of course they had to make her black to attone for the sins of the past.

 

[Cael]

The need to blackify characters is so predictable and boring. These guys are immature unimaginative hacks playing at being "creative".

Mazzy in BG2 having Dreadlocks was Cultural Appropriation. Of course they had to make her black to attone for the sins of the past.

Everyone had dreadlocks in BG2. Even Imoen.

 

[Stella Brando]

Lol, I love running all around the Sword Coast, then finally turning up to meet to Jaheira and Mr. Jaheira at level 8, covered in battle-scars, with a magic weapon and million-groat armour...

"Sure I'm Gorion's kid, what were you expecting?"

 

[Stella Brando]

Disgusting!

Why?

 

[Chippy]

I thought that pic was taking the piss based on all the black elves and crap we're seeing in Netflix shows and LOTR. That's actually a black Mazzy?.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Nalia the rogue.
I hope they have a backpack full of thief skill boosting potions.
Hey, at least she's white (and black).

 

[Sarathiour]

EDIT: Just a few minutes in and he's got some weird customized ruleset with a bunch of modded items/spells and other crap (I think some kind of expanded spell progression mod?). Not really a good guide IMO. I can understand making a guide that assumes SCS since its kind universally accepted but I have no idea what some of the stuff he's talking about is. Playing double damage insane SCS is also pretty moronic in the first place, I think SCS literally disables the difficulty damage multiplier by default?

Yeah, watched the video, there is quite a lot of tweak and mod beside just improved AI of SCS.

At the very least, there is a few class change, and merged spellbook with the one from IWD, which already change quite a few thing. It's interesting stuff, despite being obvious that he has his preference, and his not always acting in good faith.

By the way, I'm pretty sure that I talked about it at some point on this thread, but grand mastery on dual is indeed not legit, and only possible because bioware was too lazy to bother with it.

The specialization requires a single-minded dedication and training. Thus multi-class characters cannot use weapon specialization; it is available only to single-class fighters.

That's normal specialization on AD&D 2nd edition

There are swordsmen, and then there are swordsmen. A warrior who devotes his life to
the study of martial combat and the characteristics of a single type of weapon can become
a weapon master a fighter whose precision, quickness, and skill are virtually unequaled anywhere. Weapon masters are rare characters. Only singleclassed fighters can ever achieve weapon mastery, and even then they do so with time, study, and sacrifice.

From combat & tactic supplement. Dual class F/M already give you an insane power spike mid BG2, idk why people were so butthurt about introducing true grand mastery for dual, that's just pure munckinism without justification at this point.

 

[Nano]

By the way, I'm pretty sure that I talked about it at some point on this thread, but grand mastery on dual is indeed not legit, and only possible because bioware was too lazy to bother with it.

They implemented it correctly in the BG1 engine.

 

[Sarathiour]

Certainly not.

Coran has three pipes despite being multiclassed.

Grand mastery is supposed to only be reachable by true fighter, not dual or multi. It can't be reached in BG1 due to to level cap.
Beamdog included the tweak for grand mastery in the game, while still allowing anomen and yourself to put your point however you like.

 

[Stella Brando]

Coran has three pipes

 

[Nano]

Grand mastery is supposed to only be reachable by true fighter, not dual or multi. It can't be reached in BG1 due to to level cap.

Do you know how dual-classing works? If you're a single-class Fighter until level 6 and reach High Mastery in a weapon, and then dual class, you'll still retain the High Mastery in that weapon. This is how it worked in BG1 and 2E.

This is not to imply that a dual-class human forgets everything he knew before; he still has, at his fingertips, all the knowledge, abilities, and proficiencies of his old class.

 

[Sarathiour]

Did you read the book where combat mastery was introduced instead of quoting me the introduction of dual class ?

Also what kind of logic is that .

 

[Lagole Gon]

Certainly not.

Coran has three pipes despite being multiclassed.

I always thought it was intentional. Many companions have quirks like that to make them unique.
Kagain with 20 CON, Minsc with rage, Tiax with ghast summon, etc.

 

[Sarathiour]

It absolutely is, and I have no quarrel with taking a few liberty with the p&p rule.

What bother me more was the amount of screeching back in the days because grand mastery wasn't going as high as in the book, and they weeabo were asking for their extra apr on their cool kensai/mage, and finally got it thank to beamdog.

Like come on, mage dual are already the most busted class in the game, do they really need to be given extra shit for free ?

 

[mediocrepoet]

Did you read the book where combat mastery was introduced instead of quoting me the introduction of dual class ?

Also what kind of logic is that .

Because the dual class rule supercedes the weapon mastery rule. Weapon mastery and high mastery are only available if the DM allows, so by the same logic, the DM could disallow the dual class after it was attained using some of the same reasoning you do. But there's nothing that disallows it in the weapon mastery sections of any of the 2E options books RAW. You're adding some sort of balance DM ruling and trying to push it on "other groups and other games".

I don't even really disagree with you in terms of game balance, but the restriction you think there is isn't there unless it's part of some FAQ that exists outside of the published books.