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Why is there a Mancubus in that trailer for Oblivion? Oh wait that's entirely a different game?


Liked the Old trailer for DAO better. :troll:
Also what was this short guy with horns on his helmet and beard? Dwarf? :lol:
 

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So there will be lightning lasso magic, new Oblivion Gates which you close by breaking chains and there are freaky flesh monsters.

They didn't need an eight minute cinematic to tell us that.
 

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So will this enter f2p in less or more time than swtor? Discuss.
Difficult. I can imagine this game attracting a larger fanbase from the franchise, but I am quite certain they will quickly discover it is not the same and leave in droves.

Of course this would also mean more appologists and stupid people playing it insisting it's good, but I am not sure if those will be numerous enough to keep the game afloat.
Elders Scrolls fans are mostly casuals but they like Elder Scrolls and this thing is just WoW wearing Elder scrolls clothing, if Bethesda think they care enough about the lore to pay $50 and $15 every month they going to get a nasty surprise and what is even more ironic is that those developers just raped all things that made Elders Scrolls lore interesting and in ject this generic DnD bullshit, making even more easy to dismiss this shit and jut play the 1 million other free games.
 

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My prediction: it'll sell a ton of boxes, but few recurring subscriptions. If TOR was able to turn a profit, this thing probably can, provided they didn't overextend with the Hollywood voice-acting bill. Of course, this is only half the story. The whole point of the MMO gravy train is you want to replicate WoW's success of multi-million income every month for years. Turning a thin profit off box sales is hardly a rousing success story.

Also, damage to the brand will be considerable. Kind of like how Blizzard cashed in a lot of brand credibility from the Diablo franchise with Diablo 3: they made a lot of short-term money, lost a lot of long-term money.
 

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http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/0...ine-releases-cinematic-trailer-leaks-ce-info/

"However, this CE is also the only way players can unlock playing an Imperial in any alliance."

Welcome to the new era of day 1 DLC. Take out a race playable in all previous entries in the franchise and make them CE exclusive.


Why is a TES elf hot all of a sudden?


Morrowind was to alien for kwan constortard audience and so ''elves'' must be made more accessible and f..able for WoW fans; all this to earn more Jewgold of course; ZionMax, ZionMax never changes.

It was the fault of the yesteryear technologies that couldn't permit to render the elves in their true glory.
 

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I find it hard to imagine how your average user who spent hundreds of hours on Skyrim, then spend some more on modded Skyrim would pay for a game that is like Skyrim but without mods and with annoying people online.
 

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Nicely done cinematic. Too bad it looks like it has nothing to do with the Elder Scrolls, just like the game itself.
 
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What was that supposed to be? A super Oblivion Gate? Spewing out a troll and goblins?

A Dark Anchor, anchoring darkness.

Dark Anchors are hooks that Molag Bal has sent to chain Tamriel with his own Daedric Plane of Coldharbour. The purpose of the Chains is to pull Tamriel into Coldharbour. They will spawn randomly across Tamriel and each one will be protected by a Daedric Guardian. [1]

It will be possible for higher leveled players to defeat the Daedric Guardian and return the hook by themselves, however it would be recommended to battle this Guardian in parties, as he will be a tough competitor. Each chain that a Party/character destroys will be rewarded with a reputation bonus to the Fighters Guild.[1]
 
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Fun fact: dark anchors were taken out of the game last year because none of the testers had bothered with them, then re-implemented two weeks ago with the only change being "We made the summoning animation much more awesome". I guess they had to shove them back into the game somehow since they had already commissioned a cinematic about them.
 

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Why is there a Mancubus in that trailer for Oblivion? Oh wait that's entirely a different game?


Liked the Old trailer for DAO better. :troll:
Also what was this short guy with horns on his helmet and beard? Dwarf? :lol:

This trailer is so much kinds of wrong... What happen when you give millions of dollars to dumb nerds? Jesus, I almost vomited when they started that stupid " Look how cool and powerful our characters are." The AWESOME spell cast by that generic elf woman is shit that came straight from animu bullshit, she gets an arrow on her back but seems to not even notice it, pathetic... This whole bullshit of a game is made up of animu bullshit. Elder Scrolls lore was never something terrible original or clever but not this dumb. Are the niggers with glowing blue eyes and animu armor, Daedra? Jesus...
 

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ZionMax presents: A never before seen scenario in The Elder Scrolls lore! The Dragonfires have failed, and no Emperor sits on Cyrodiil's ruby throne. Oblivion gates open across Tamriel, sending out an invading horde of Daedra!

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/01/29/elder-scrolls-online-releases-cinematic-trailer-leaks-ce-info/
"However, this CE is also the only way players can unlock playing an Imperial in any alliance."

Welcome to the new era of day 1 DLC. Take out a race playable in all previous entries in the franchise and make them CE exclusive.
WHAT!? The height of jewishness. I was expecting Imperials to be added in an expansion, but Day 1 DLC? :keepmyjewgold:
Though Peter Stormare faking a Nord accent sounds potentially hilarious.
:hmmm:
Or do you expect Nords to use a Scottish accent like in Morrowind?

Fun fact: dark anchors were taken out of the game last year because none of the testers had bothered with them, then re-implemented two weeks ago with the only change being "We made the summoning animation much more awesome". I guess they had to shove them back into the game somehow since they had already commissioned a cinematic about them.
If the last part is true, that's pretty hilarious. :D
 
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:hmmm:
Or do you expect Nords to use a Scottish accent like in Morrowind?

I didn't get the impression that the Skyrim Nords had a particularly authentic Scandinavian accent, but obviously I'm no expert.
 

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ZionMax presents: A never before seen scenario in The Elder Scrolls lore! The Dragonfires have failed, and no Emperor sits on Cyrodiil's ruby throne. Oblivion gates open across Tamriel, sending out an invading horde of Daedra!
Well, with fourteen Daedric Princes to go there's still plenty of variation left. I'd like to see Sanguine's indulgence daedra (seven sins and all that jazz), Clavicus Vile's jackass servants and Herpmaeus Derpa's li'l Cthulhus.
 

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:hmmm:
Or do you expect Nords to use a Scottish accent like in Morrowind?

I didn't get the impression that the Skyrim Nords had a particularly authentic Scandinavian accent, but obviously I'm no expert.
They didn't - there was one male guard who sounded just like a Swede trying to speak English, but the others are all over the place, and as a Scandinavian I have no clue what most of them were going for. I guess they did accomplish their goal though - generally Imperials, Bretons and Redguards speak plain American English, while the Nords speak exotic English.

But I don't recall a single Nord that used a Scottish accent in Skyrim, so I don't think they're going for the Scottish vikings anymore, but at least somewhat Scandinavian. And what better then than to hire a Swedish actor to play the Nordic High King this time around?

Also I'm no linguistics expert either, I only have my ears and my 34 IQ score to go on.


ZionMax presents: A never before seen scenario in The Elder Scrolls lore! The Dragonfires have failed, and no Emperor sits on Cyrodiil's ruby throne. Oblivion gates open across Tamriel, sending out an invading horde of Daedra!
Well, with fourteen Daedric Princes to go there's still plenty of variation left. I'd like to see Sanguine's indulgence daedra (seven sins and all that jazz), Clavicus Vile's jackass servants and Herpmaeus Derpa's li'l Cthulhus.
In 20 years we'll dig up this post and check Clavicus and Hermaeus off as "Caim called it".

They (who?) should do a shorter Clavicus Vile game (what kind of game?) though, not about an invasion, but where you enter his realm and deal with Clavicus and his indulgence Daedra, designed after the seven deadly sins. And in the end you can have a Half-Life choice where you either tell him to go fuck himself, or accept some sort of deal and get yourself enslaved forever. "No regrets, mortal."
 
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:hmmm:
Or do you expect Nords to use a Scottish accent like in Morrowind?
I didn't get the impression that the Skyrim Nords had a particularly authentic Scandinavian accent, but obviously I'm no expert.
They didn't - there was one male guard who sounded just like a Swede trying to speak English, but the others are all over the place, and as a Scandinavian I have no clue what most of them were going for. I guess they did accomplish their goal though - generally Imperials, Bretons and Redguards speak plain American English, while the Nords speak exotic English.

But I don't recall a single Nord that used a Scottish accent in Skyrim, so I don't think they're going for the Scottish vikings anymore, but at least somewhat Scandinavian. And what better then than to hire a Swedish actor to play the Nordic High King this time around?

Also I'm no linguistics expert either, I only have my ears and my 34 IQ score to go on.
I distinctly remember the Ahnold-sounding guard. Or was that supposed to be Swedish?
 

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If only they'd gotten Mads Mikkelsen in their Hollywood spree, that might have justified the whole thing.

Just imagine Skyrim with his eyetwitching psychosis every time a guard talks about his knee.

"I used... to be an adventurer. <thousand yard stare>"


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Ryan Dancy of the Pathfinder tabletop rpg fame defends TES Online's subscription based model:

http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.c...s-Elder-Scrolls-Online-and-Subscriptions.html

Just after New Year’s Day Paul Tassi wrote an editorial piece for Forbes.com titled Predicting the Biggest Video Game Disaster of 2014: The Elder Scrolls Online. As I read this piece it became clear that Tassi’s prediction was based on the choice Zenimax, developer and publisher of the game has made on how to monetize the game – a fixed price monthly subscription. Tassi writes: “Console players, and hell, most PC players these days that aren’t die hard WoW or EVE Online devotees, have no place for the increasingly outdated monthly subscription model.”



Tassi also slights Zenimax for producing a big-budget MMO (rumors put the budget north of $200 million, a figure that seems reasonable to me based on the reported size of the team and the length of the game’s development.) I agree with Tassi that multi-hundred million dollar MMO budgets are unlikely to generate enough long term success to justify the risk involved, but I take issue with Tassi’s dismissal of the classic subscription model for monetization.

If we consider the MMOs that generate the most revenue in the Western market (North America, Europe, Russia, and Australia / New Zealand) a sizeable majority of the revenue being generated is in the form of monthly subscriptions. The era of MMO subscriber transparency has ended but we can still make some educated deductions about these revenues and subscriber totals.

It’s impossible to confirm these figures without the cooperation of each game’s developer and none of them are going on the record anymore with these figures. But by triangulating from press releases, SEC (and other government filings), talking to industry insiders, and looking at anecdotal evidence from many sources, we can get into the ballpark for some analysis.

Here are my estimates for the top* MMORPGs in the Western MMO market:

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I find the char of estimates to be interesting. WoW is truly head and shoulders above the rest, and the amount of money they are making per month is staggering. No wonder everyone wants a piece of the pie.

It should be kept in mind that Dancy is working on his own MMORPG, which he likely wants to be subscription based, at least in part.
 

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This is 2014 and I still can't understand what's so funny about MMOs that they make so much fucking money out of it.
Geez our priorities are all fucked up..
 

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