The Legend of Heroes Thread - Trails of Cold Steel in the Sky

[Valestein]

My chief gripe with the 4 ending was:

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Crow and Millium remaining alive and well.

One thing i really liked about it was:

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Jurai and North Ambrai remaining under Erebonian control despite the unfortunate loss of Crossbell. Plus I liked Rean and Ozzie developing a proper father/son relationship.

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Well technically they (Crow and Millium) also died as per the first ending - it is "Trails into the Reverie" more complicated than just the second ending. Did you also see the bonus Ouroboros bit after reloading the save game once more?

Yeah, i saw that bit, which i would've missed had the guide i was using didn't mention it.

 

[Sarathiour]

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Well technically they (Crow and Millium) also died as per the first ending - it is "Trails into the Reverie" more complicated than just the second ending. Did you also see the bonus Ouroboros bit after reloading the save game once more?

Apparently, portal is cannon.

 

[Maxie]

beat Ao, took me 80h
it's a pretty neat game but I'd say the sheer length of the climax kinda robs it of its strength
kinda liked Zero better because it was more low-key, Ao also introduces the giant robot sub-plot which makes me roll my eyes everytime

 

[Lyre Mors]

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Well technically they (Crow and Millium) also died as per the first ending - it is "Trails into the Reverie" more complicated than just the second ending. Did you also see the bonus Ouroboros bit after reloading the save game once more?

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I have a sneaking suspicion that the Grandmaster is either Aidios, or some kind of projection of her ala Cleste D. Auslese in the Recluse Cube. The talk of the world only having 3 years left to exist before everything is plunged back into primordial nothingness, and then the talk about what essentially sounds like a world rebirth in the Eternal Recurrence plan increased my suspicion further. Pretty exciting! And if I'm not mistaken, the Grandmaster is the woman featured on the cover art of Hajimari, so should be playing a bigger role in that game too.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Finally getting back into this, Cold Steel 1 is growing on me, however the weird pervinessis is offputting. Don't get me wrong I have no problem with fanservice and lewdness in my games but these characters don't seem real to me.

On the one hand these dorks are surrounded by hot babes and none of them is even thinking of asking them out or trying to get in their pants, but the teacher keeps cock-teasing Rean and then everyone yells at him because he isn't interested in fucking his step sister.

What is with these games and the quasi-incest storylines? Elise better not get stuck in a washing machine.

Rean is otherwise kind of bland, he feels like someone tried to write lines for a silent protagonist, so they ended up with the most generic, laid-back, goody-goody JRPG main ever. Not that an emo brooder would be any better, but he could probably just not say anything and still be fine. The only times he makes me laugh is whenever he roasts Sara.

 

[Kaivokz]

Rean is otherwise kind of bland, he feels like someone tried to write lines for a silent protagonist, so they ended up with the most generic, laid-back, goody-goody JRPG main ever. Not that an emo brooder would be any better, but he could probably just not say anything and still be fine. The only times he makes me laugh is whenever he roasts Sara.

He develops a little more personality in the second game but it’s still bland. If he would just have a drink or show any indication that the gravity of what is happening in the world around him is at all reflected in his internal life, he would be a much better character.

It’s like they sent a boy to war, but the boy returned a boy and not a man despite doing all of the things that generally transforms boys to men.

I can’t speak to 3 and 4 as I haven’t played them yet.

 

[Rean]

he isn't interested in fucking his step sister.

... Ok.

Anyway, are you saying you wouldn't be interested in fucking your stepsister if she was hot? Only if you have a non-functioning dick and no test, I suppose, sure.

Sorry to burst your bubble Jenny, but 100% of all human bloodlines descend from incestuous ancestors. That's how biology works.
And you have a problem with a non-blood-related relationship because the two individuals grew up together.

Getting real tired of all these 2021 FAGGOTS.

 

[Lhynn]

Is Rean really making a case for incest in a jrpg thread? holy shit dude, why do i waste my time in the grpg forum. Shits wild on this side of the fence.

 

[Rean]

 

[Rean]

Imagine not fucking liking Elise.

 

[Kaivokz]

Imagine not fucking liking Elise.

Do you have a sister? Alternatively, do you like fucking your mom?

Unrelated question: How much Freud have you been reading lately?

 

[Rean]

Imagine not fucking liking Elise.

Do you have a sister? Alternatively, do you like fucking your mom?

Unrelated question: How much Freud have you been reading lately?

Fucked them all already.
You're next, since you obviously have a pussy.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Normal people think it's weird. Because it is.

Also, this is not even the first step-cest plotline in a Trails game. Okay, you want to explore that avenue, fine, but is this a defining feature of the series or something?

It kinda reminds me how Persona 4 had some normal relationships along with some baggage, then Persona 5 half the social links are taboo older milfs of one flavor or another.

This is a strange timeline.

 

[Rean]

Okay, you want to explore that avenue, fine, but is this a defining feature of the series or something?

No. From 1-2, politics are the defining feature. 3-4 takes a turn towards the occult.
It's odd that you've highlighted Rean's relationship with Elise to this extent.

 

[Lhynn]

Normal people think it's weird. Because it is.

Also, this is not even the first step-cest plotline in a Trails game. Okay, you want to explore that avenue, fine, but is this a defining feature of the series or something?

It kinda reminds me how Persona 4 had some normal relationships along with some baggage, then Persona 5 half the social links are taboo older milfs of one flavor or another.

This is a strange timeline.

MILFs dont get nearly enough attention. I applaud persona 5.
Those devs are both brave and beautiful.

 

[Rean]

Lhynn is my alt btw.
It's Rean with a Japanese incline-filled pronunciation.

 

[Kaivokz]

Fucked them all already.
You're next, since you obviously have a pussy.

A pussy lusts after his little sister. Men have families.

 

[Sarathiour]

Normal people think it's weird. Because it is.

Also, this is not even the first step-cest plotline in a Trails game. Okay, you want to explore that avenue, fine, but is this a defining feature of the series or something?

It kinda reminds me how Persona 4 had some normal relationships along with some baggage, then Persona 5 half the social links are taboo older milfs of one flavor or another.

This is a strange timeline.

It's been a while since i play p4, but i remember one of the social link being about an nurse who kinda prey on young man, or something like that ? Anyways, the worst offender is the 4th by far , even though by then a lot of guys in the cast actually start showing inclination of not being total eunuch.

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i thought people where shitposting when they said that you could add a cat to your harem

It’s like they sent a boy to war, but the boy returned a boy and not a man despite doing all of the things that generally transforms boys to men.

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It kinda does but only after being conscripted as the ashen chevalier, the civil war in itself does not impact him that much, but loosing crow and fighting against calvard apparently does.

 

[Kaivokz]

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That’s actually what I was referencing when I said he returned a boy. After all that (in your spoiler), he still basically acts like the shy first-year, laid-back military school student.

Granted I’ve only played about 45 minutes of 3.

I’d just like to see a little bit of Elliot’s father, or Osborne, or the blond knight guy, in Rean’s character. A better military man.

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Or even Crow. Despite being kind of a twat, Crow is a more compelling character than Rean because his background/experiences directly play in to his goals, actions and overall personality.

 

[Ysaye]

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That’s actually what I was referencing when I said he returned a boy. After all that (in your spoiler), he still basically acts like the shy first-year, laid-back military school student.

Granted I’ve only played about 45 minutes of 3.

I’d just like to see a little bit of Elliot’s father, or Osborne, or the blond knight guy, in Rean’s character. A better military man.

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Or even Crow. Despite being kind of a twat, Crow is a more compelling character than Rean because his background/experiences directly play in to his goals, actions and overall personality.

He actually has plenty of

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Osborne

in him from the get go, it is just because not much is actually revealed about that character's backstory until the last game; in fact part of the whole dynamic of Rean is arguably a study in nature versus nuture. His change to an angst-ridden character at the end of CS2 is driven in the most part by his struggle to relate to that character, not by the other things mentioned IMO - by the time of CS3 he has hidden much of that angst but the struggle there manifests itself in him struggling to control his own powers, which again is characterized by his biological inheritance.

His character for most of CS3 and then even more so in CS4 is more self-assured than in the early two games, and his dynamic in particular between Kurt, Juna, Altina, Ash and Musse shows this in those games (and he even does drink in those games with a number of characters that are old enough to do so in those games). But he also doesn't quite ever lose that biological inheritance of wanting to sacrifice himself for others at every turn, or bear the burdens of others, or his obliviousness towards girls.

 

[Harry Easter]

Played the prologue of Trails of Cold Steel 1.

Thoughts so far:

- The pace is very relaxed. I like that. The perfect game for an hour, before I go to bed.
- Damn, there's already so much text.
- Rean is surprisingly likeable. I thought he would be too milktoast for my liking and he's kind of, but I can't stand mad at the guy. He's a good egg. Well done, Falcom.
- I like Gaius. He seems to be a real dude to hang around with.
- I like Machias too. He has the right ideas about the upper classes (although you don't say that out loud, buddy. You buy your time and wait, until you strike) and in a class of people with experimental superweapons or old family heirlooms, he's the only one that brought something practical with him. A shotgun. He kills his enemies with the ancient magic of GUN. What's not to love?
- Can somebody tell Machias and Jusis to shut up and fuck already?

I think, I gonna like this one.

 

[Maximilian]

Played the prologue of Trails of Cold Steel 1.

Thoughts so far:

- The pace is very relaxed. I like that. The perfect game for an hour, before I go to bed.
- Damn, there's already so much text.
- Rean is surprisingly likeable. I thought he would be too milktoast for my liking and he's kind of, but I can't stand mad at the guy. He's a good egg. Well done, Falcom.
- I like Gaius. He seems to be a real dude to hang around with.
- I like Machias too. He has the right ideas about the upper classes (although you don't say that out loud, buddy. You buy your time and wait, until you strike) and in a class of people with experimental superweapons or old family heirlooms, he's the only one that brought something practical with him. A shotgun. He kills his enemies with the ancient magic of GUN. What's not to love?
- Can somebody tell Machias and Jusis to shut up and fuck already?

I think, I gonna like this one.

Well aren't you in for a world of disappointment.

 

[Harry Easter]

Well aren't you in for a world of disappointment.

What, Jusis and Machias will never do the dirty and be done with it?

 

[Maximilian]

Well aren't you in for a world of disappointment.

What, Jusis and Machias will never do the dirty and be done with it?

The relationship between the two is one of the many lower points of this game. It never evolves past hissy fits.

 

[Harry Easter]

The relationship between the two is one of the many lower points of this game. It never evolves past hissy fits.

Damn. Oh well. Machias has still a shotgun. That will take time to get old.