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The Mass Effect 3/BioWare Thread

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Can't post that in the Halollucionation thread. That area is locked for loyal Biodrones that paid for that "game". :lol:
Here, if you want to fight the good fight with your words register a console Mass Effect 3 to your account. 014633195859
 

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ACHT-

*clears throat*

ATTENTION : It has come to my grorirous

*hits self*

*clears throat again*

Gentlemen, whatever it is that the Red Letter Media people are planning for the Mass Effect series, they must not hold back. We need to make them seek the light of the rpgcodex. also there are a bunch of non-copyrighted jokes in this thread, ripe for the taking

I can not do that as I do not have a twitter account. However, you can do it. The masses need to be shown that it is not alien to believe the industry is declining. That Mass Effect and most games always were shit. That Bioware doesn't make the best Science/Fantasy franchises EVAR.(and that claims like that/usual majestic vidyo gaymo jewnalism bullshit are not to be given pageviews attention or to be tolerated). That they push pornography romances, propaganda and the fucking abomination that they call writing pseudo-movieness as selling points for all games, destroying standards and thus declining the industry. And mankind.

They forgot to remove DLC content from the disc that could be enabled with a simple .ini edit, and then accuse people who do that of piracy. That is not right.

They attempt to extort their mentally vulnerable playerbase by introducing FUCKING SINGLEPLAYER GAME MICROTRANSACTIONS.

For great :incline: we must do it.

Send them the following videos and anything else related you can dig up. You must also assume they're not seasoned gamers with seven playthroughs of KOTOR. Send them all the most outright bullshit masturbatory articles by the "big ones" you can find, someone famous must call them out on this shit. I dunno, even some codex threads containing the truthz.

:mob:








I am sure there are more related videos, posted here in this thread, even.

For a world where calling BSB is not frowned upon, where the Kodex Kritical Konsensus is the mainstream. Duty calls, BROS.

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And remember, if you can't have a twitter account :
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yes I know I could have written this better, but there were not enough people fighting the good fight with their overuse of memes words


post some moar videos

but srsly guise, there's some potential :incline: and guaranteed lulz coming out of this if we're lucky, I mean a friend of mine really liked the Star Wars prequels then I showed him Plinkett's Review's and then after being exposed to 70 minutes of logic several times over he had an epiphany about the shittiness of movies and has since repented. that's one mind being made against the :decline: amirite? also it's some p. lulzy shit you guys should watch it,I think the URL is www.redlettermedia.com
 

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Doesn't the game itself disprove the whole indoctrination theory? On Thessia (or however the fuck you spell it) when you finally find the Prothean VI thingy, it talks to Shepard and co. with no problem, but once Cerberus shows up it goes all "OH SHIT, PEOPLE WITH THE INDOCTRINATION DETECTED! GOTTA GO!", then later, once you get it back from Cerberus, it says something about no longer detecting the indoctrination taint.
 

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the dlc ''new ending'' they are probably making right now will not solve a single thing that is wrong with the ending. you would have to rewrite the entire fucking game to achieve any viable endings that incorporate the players choices and have relevance to the series as a whole, and i dont think bioware is going to rewrite the deus ex machina child character and their shitty explanation for the reapers either. its just going to be an ending that has a completely new choice (save everyone!!) and some cutscenes where everything is happy and shepard marries tali. which is really what the biotards are upset about at the heart of the matter.
 

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"Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. Your touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding."

If it is contradictory or paradoxical then by the logic implied by Sovereign in the first game that means it is true. This is actually a defensive mechanism; as we all know any and all AI and any and all robots can be destroyed with a logical paradox. To counter this indomitable rule of logic-dependent beings the Reapers devise contradictions and paradoxes within all that concerns them so that organics will never be able to produce a logical paradox against them since the basis for that paradox would be a series of other paradoxes and contradictions.

Seeing as how paradox absorbing crumple zones are little but the flimsy fantasy of Chicago computer utopians, this makes Mass Effect hard sci-fi.
 

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the dlc ''new ending'' they are probably making right now will not solve a single thing that is wrong with the ending. you would have to rewrite the entire fucking game to achieve any viable endings that incorporate the players choices and have relevance to the series as a whole, and i dont think bioware is going to rewrite the deus ex machina child character and their shitty explanation for the reapers either. its just going to be an ending that has a completely new choice (save everyone!!) and some cutscenes where everything is happy and shepard marries tali. which is really what the biotards are upset about at the heart of the matter.
ENDINGS THE DLC. NOW IN YELLOW. PURPLE. GREEN. OH WAIT WE COVERED GREEN. LOTS OF NEW COLORS.
 

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Okay, finished it. My thoughts:

:rage:

I've also finished it. Thanks for summing up my thoughts for me.

The rape on Insanity was brutal, though. And I liked the Tuchanka mission. The beginning, the ending (lollerskates) and the inside Geth mind bits were horribly lame, however. I wanted to make another run as a biotic initially, but now I don't think I will. Also, I support the hallucination/indoctrination theory, because otherwise what the hell?!

I only wanted more of ME2 :( /andyman mode
 
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It's funny how mass erect 3 seems to provide people with far more entertainment if they don't play it (and just watch the trainwreck from the sidelines) than if they did.
 

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the dlc ''new ending'' they are probably making right now will not solve a single thing that is wrong with the ending. you would have to rewrite the entire fucking game to achieve any viable endings that incorporate the players choices and have relevance to the series as a whole, and i dont think bioware is going to rewrite the deus ex machina child character and their shitty explanation for the reapers either. its just going to be an ending that has a completely new choice (save everyone!!) and some cutscenes where everything is happy and shepard marries tali. which is really what the biotards are upset about at the heart of the matter.
It would be easy, but then to make a good ending in the first place would be easy.

Grandpa turns around and he's been indoctrinated. And that, Timmy, is the end of the tale of Shepard and the human race. You see organics like that are too unstable and inevitably lead themselves to ruin. Now humanity is preserved for all time. Then the little kid resists, and turns out to be Shepard. He can finally see reality again and runs to the macguffin and reverses the polarity, reapers are destroyed forever and he walks away into the sunset for an orgy with the whole crew, then there's a little montage saying how happy each race is that Shepard saved them or how glad everyone else is he wiped them out.

7 thumbs up from every retarded biodrone and I thought of it in 1 second.
Yeah, that one could salvage a lot. But you forgot about one crucial thing consider that this would be the ending.

Grandpa, turns around and looks at the sky. "And that, Timmy, is the end of the tale of Shepard and the human race. You see organics like that are too unstable and inevitably lead themselves to ruin. Now humanity is preserved for all time."
"No." Comes the voice of the child from behind his back.
Grandpa who in reality is the Reaper-God starts turning around in surprise. "What do you...?" Suddenly we see a hand collar-grabing him. It's Shepard in his adult form. "Didn't you hear me, old man? I said NO!" Then he comes back to reality and does his heroic shit saving the galaxy.
:yeah:
 

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hey guys have you raged today?


http://www.mercurynews.com/entertainment-headlines/ci_20173439

it's hoopy time
After a journey that lasted eight years, Mac Walters can breathe a sigh of relief. The lead writer of "Mass Effect 3" and his fellow developers have shipped the finale of their epic trilogy.

uh... but Mac Walters isn't even one of the original writers...

It's an adventure that spans several planets and about 95,000 lines of dialogue, give or take a few hundred words. But that size and scope go deeper.
Is the 95,000 lines of dialogue thing true?

New Vegas had 80k, right?
BioWare has hundreds of pages detailing alien species, characters, technology and history.
bullshit
If someone had told Walters beforehand how much content the project entailed, he would have called it crazy.
Uh... I'm p. sure it has less content than the last two games, actually, and that isn't much, see for example New Vegas.

But it's also a remarkable undertaking. From the start, the "Mass Effect" series was an ambitious project. BioWare planned the saga as a trilogy, but the branching narratives were a challenge.
Fucking superman for the nintendo 64 was ambitious, that doesn't mean anything. I'm sure the it was challenging to optimize graphics for 7 years old hardware too, why are you prejudiced against tech people

The team wanted to create a franchise where players can take their protagonist and play him or her through all three games.
bro that's kind of like most games with sequels
Decisions in the original had ramifications in the next two games. They wouldn't drastically alter the narrative but would change the details. Some characters who are alive in one play-through may be dead in another.
but you forgot to mention none of the details have any relevance to the plot, it's like saying shepard's hair color is important
Allies may have different reactions to players,
holeeeee fucking shit that's some fucking heavy C&C, those guys are almost on the level of japanese eroge(porn) games
depending on whether they're playing as a Paragon (good guy) or Renegade (anti-hero).
:hmmm:


on Mass Effect 3 Combat said:
The only misstep is how BioWare implements grenades and mines. A dedicated button or a method of aiming would have made them much more useful. Tossing one in the game is ineffective and clumsy.
I'm sorry are you playing on a console?
But "Mass Effect 3" still retains its RPG roots. Players can pause the battle so allies can aim their special powers at foes, adding a strategic element to battles as players command their two comrades across a war zone.
Strategy and pausing = RPG

CS:S is an RPG because you can pause the game and it is competitive
Customizing outfits and modifying weapons are still fairly light.
what the fuck are you saying

YU CRITISIZE GRORIOUS BIOWARU GAEM?

Players will have to find the right set that suits their play style.
What happens if you choose one that doesn't?
Although the game mechanics are good, they wouldn't have the same impact without its story-driven half. Walters and his team created a riveting narrative that somehow ties up the trilogy's loose ends.
somehow = carelessly, senselessly, retardedly
you're a smart guy mr. prf'shnal joornalist
Over the last three games, players have bonded with these characters. They have a history with them, and they've learned to care about the fates of Tali the Quarian or Urdnot Rex and his people. There's plenty of emotional capital involved, and BioWare doesn't waste it, giving players at times heart-rending moments and lighter ones with the crew.
what

the guy's name isn't even Rex
Sure, some fans can rant about the ending and why it doesn't live up to their expectations.
expectations being something not half-assed
There's even a ridiculous online petition urging BioWare to redo the finale. But the "Mass Effect" series isn't about the destination. It's about the journey there.
Tell me more about the journey.
It's about all the choices players made to arrive at that ultimate scene.
Biowarean choices lead you to the ultimate results
Unlike other mediums, video games let players create their own narratives. They become, in effect, co-authors of the "Mass Effect" saga. They helped write this tale. They're the ones who formed relationships with their crewmates. They determined the fate of the galaxy. The story is in the eye of beholder, and for me, at least, the one I told was immensely satisfying.
what if I LARPing Crispy with my shepards

....you're a codexer aren't you? :salute:


anyway, how are even random unknown people in on this?




I wonder if wikipedia is as much of a marketing tool as enlightening about the game

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect_3

The game's ending has been controversial with some fans. Online polls have shown an overwhelmingly negative view of the game's three similar endings. Criticisms include the lack of variation in the endings in view of the player's choices over the previous two games, as well as a general lack of closure and perceived plot holes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioWare
A widely-reported[citation needed] incident involved a player unable to activate his purchased copy of Dragon Age 2, due to being banned from the BioWare forums. BioWare's Stanley Woo replied to the user in support of the ban by pointing to sections 9 and 11 of EA's terms of service, which permits EA to terminate users' access to its online services.[23] Woo clearly acknowledged that the forum ban can affect access to game content, adding that players should "consider it an added incentive to follow the rules you say you're going to follow."[24]Technology news website Ars Technica called the incident a "potentially dangerous precedent, where saying something inflammatory about a developer or publisher could result in the company revoking the player's right to play a game he or she lawfully acquired."[23] When the story was later picked-up by several news websites, EA's Andrew Wong said the entire incident was actually an unforeseen glitch, and that the player's account had been reactivated.[25]

Hmm, those articles seem biased towards Bioware... I wonder if that can be fixed.
 

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If you want to :x, there's nothing better than the BSN itself.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9861052/1

I love this ending because of what Bioware did. They actually indoctrinated their own customers. They made and ending where you the player play through a real-time indoctrination of not just your character but of the player. They presented the ending in such a way that you had to fight indoctrination right along with Shepard. The game actively tries to fool you and manipulate your decisions away from the "best" and ONLY true ending, this is no typical ending by any shot and they did this KNOWING that their fan base might not understand it and take what they showed us at face value. Those people will never get why their ending doesn't make sense and will be angry unnecessarily. For those like myself though. I feel like it's a twist worthy of the best games/movies out there and that some ambiguity is better than the spelled out epilogue slideshow at the end.

So, was BioWare intentionally ambiguous?

89ff69e


:hmmm:

I'm sure any rational person would be glad to know that you intentionally held back endings so you could sell them as DLC afterward.

(Sad part is BioWare fans actually would).
 

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hey guys have you raged today?

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After a google image search for "Tee Hee" I believe we can all agree that I have unearthed a gif that perfectly explains the codexian attitude towards Mass Effect herein present in this thread.
 

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Okay, finished it. My thoughts:

:rage:

I've also finished it. Thanks for summing up my thoughts for me.

The rape on Insanity was brutal, though. And I liked the Tuchanka mission. The beginning, the ending (lollerskates) and the inside Geth mind bits were horribly lame, however. I wanted to make another run as a biotic initially, but now I don't think I will. Also, I support the hallucination/indoctrination theory, because otherwise what the hell?!

I only wanted more of ME2 :( /andyman mode

If you enjoyed the combat and want to try out a biotic, I suggest to take a Vanguard. Pretty fun and different gameplay.
 

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lol that retarded little kid was Harbinger? As if the Reapers hadn't already declined enough. "lol guise instead of blowing up the Normandy 5 minutes into the game we will instead let Shepard run about the galaxy and trick his mind"
 

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Whether or not that whole "the ending is indoctrination"-theory thing is true and therefore intentional (gotta have to give some credits to Bioware for having the balls to pull it of in that case) or not, should they indeed provide a DLC with a new ending, demanding money for it would be bordering on fraud and pushing it even for EA, imho.
After all people that bought ME3 did so in the assumption that it would provide an actual closure to the trilogy.

Hey, even over at BSN that would probably cause a major uprising.
 
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The next bioware game will have a Director's Cut enhanced ending as DLC, included for free in the Ultimate Collector's Edition (or for $10 on origin).

Also, there will be a sidequest DLC that is mandatory if you don't want your waifu to commit a retarded suicide later.
 

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So, historically, would this be the first time a game has (deliberately) shipped without an ending?

No. Divinity 2: Ego Draconis did something similar.
Before Flames of Vengeance (the expansion) or Dragon Knight Saga, after beating the final enemies you found out that you actually (pseudo-spoiler below, highlight to read)

had been helping the bad guys all along and freed the bad guys evil girlfriend. As a reward you ended up trapped in a crystal in the afterworld.
:troll:

Only after playing the expansion you would get the real ending.
 

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So, historically, would this be the first time a game has (deliberately) shipped without an ending? Plenty of games have had post-ending DLC, but I think this could be the first game (of many to come :smug:) to actually go this far.

Fallout 3. Bethesda will always reign supreme over these talentless rip off artists. :balance:
 
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I remember playing some adventure game, that when things started to get remotely interesting ended with a IT WILL CONTINUE...
That was some trolling...
 

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Fallout 3?

To a degree, at least they wrapped up what you had done and what became of the area.
The game could have ended right there without Broken Steel and you would not have missed much.
It might have been a somewhat illogical (why sacrifice myself when the Mutant or ghoule npc would survive the radiation) or not overly satisfying ending but it seems better to me than what I gather from the discussion and videos of ME3.
 

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So wait, can someone sum up the story and ending of ME3? Why is it so horrible? Can't be bothered to look into it.
 

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Whether or not that whole "the ending is indoctrination"-theory thing is true and therefore intentional (gotta have to give some credits to Bioware for having the balls to pull it of in that case) or not, should they indeed provide a DLC with a new ending, demanding money for it would be bordering on fraud and pushing it even for EA, imho.
After all people that bought ME3 did so in the assumption that it would provide an actual closure to the trilogy.

Hey, even over at BSN that would probably cause a major uprising.
Most likely, Bioware planned nothing. They were (well, "are" is the more accurate term) just a bunch of massive hacks and believecd those abortions they called endings are appropriate. When the shitstorm started and the indoctrination fanfiction stories stated to surface, they realized that it may be a good idea to run with that, so now thay're playing coy, leading people on to buy themselves some time while they scrounge up together some DLC with the "true" ending that "confirms" the indoctrination hypothesis. Now, if they release that for free, they have good chances of placating the enraged masses, but if they ask money for that, then all bets are off and I'm stocking up on popcorn, because that's going to be the best entertainment one could get out of ME3.
 

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