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The Mass Effect 3/BioWare Thread
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Andyman Messiah
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Actually, no, I really do owe Dragon Age 2 an apology. Don't get me wrong, Dragon Age 2 was terrible but it was a funny kind of terrible because you could point at absolutely ANYTHING in that game and it would be absolute SHIT. The graphics, the combat, the quests, the story. And it took the BioWare romances to a laughable extreme in that you could have several romances provided that you did them in the right order! It was smutty garbage.
It makes sense once you realise Andyman hates Mass Effect 3 so much that he's taking old hate reserves from Dragon Age 2.
But I don't hate ME3 either. It's just that they took Mass Effect 2 and made it more like Mass Effect 1, in other words NOT FUN TO PLAY. Most of my complaints are petty but then this is a petty game. And it breaks my heart every time I have to take the elevator down to level 5 to outfit my retarded team and then take the elevator up to level 2 to start a new mission JUST BECAUSE BIOWARE THOUGHT HAVING EVERYTHING YOU NEEDED IN ONE PLACE WAS ILLOGICAL. IN A FUCKING VIDEO GAME.
DamonLindelof said:
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Andyman Messiah
Mr. Ed-ucated
tl;dr Dragon Age 2 was unfinished, broken and rushed. No question about that. Volourn can eat my soggy old asshole.
But Mass Effect 3 is BioWare at their supposed best and that's scary as hell.
Oriebam
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Well Jesus come and fuck me dead, that's some grade A apologist bullshit.
Multidirectional
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Dude, I tried to play ME1 after ME3 and it didn't feel all that similar. If anything, ME3 plays a lot like ME2 except with further improvements. Slightly better controls, like actually being able to make turns when sprinting, rolling around move proved useful as well. A little more diverse character system, a lot more weapon choices and upgrades plus I liked weight becoming a stat. Also, non regenerating health is an improvement, right? Well it is to me anyway. If I gave more of a shit about the story I might be raging about this game here too, but now it seems the best in the series to me because of actual gameplay. I don't recall your complaint about outfiting team being true either, I'm pretty sure I was allowed to choose everything before starting every mission, just like in ME2. Shit, you don't even have to visit shops more than once because they're all linked to your ship's terminal. How much more convenient can it get?
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Additionally - you CAN do that and as reward for your effort you get lower prices. Neat.
But I don't agree it's the best game in the series in terms of gameplay, because in such a story-driven game story is a vital part of gameplay. If the story is broken - by which I mean you barely have any influence on the final outcome, so it sucks whatever you've done - the gameplay is broken as well.
But I don't agree it's the best game in the series in terms of gameplay, because in such a story-driven game story is a vital part of gameplay. If the story is broken - by which I mean you barely have any influence on the final outcome, so it sucks whatever you've done - the gameplay is broken as well.
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By "gameplay" I meant "killing things". And that part is certainly done best in ME3 as far as I'm concerned. I agree that in a story heavy game complaints about it are valid, but it still doesn't turn story into "gameplay". Gameplay choices are about picking a class and skills to max/weapons and their upgrades.
Story in all ME games was a cheap entertainment to me, I wasn't particularly invested so I don't feel the need to rage now. I always thought ending was bound to be stupid, and wasn't disappointed.
Story in all ME games was a cheap entertainment to me, I wasn't particularly invested so I don't feel the need to rage now. I always thought ending was bound to be stupid, and wasn't disappointed.
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If you want to troll Extra Credits for their disgusting consoletard apologetics ("certification?" do I give a flying fuck?!), here's the forum discussion for that video: http://extra-credits.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1978
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Oriebam
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what about faggy arcade?
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What about it? Maybe they have a forum there as well, but they've opened their own website recently.
Freelance Henchman
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Didn't pay much attention to the video but it linked to some nice semi-remixed ME music in the end which I kinda like: http://music.biggiantcircles.com/track/shepard-of-the-galaxy
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Yeah, that was nice, bit jrpgish though which is weird.
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I was starting to think I might be able to find some common ground with biodrones after all this time, that maybe the average gamer would suddenly wake up and realize Bioware was churning out mediocre crap year after year, and perhaps they'd demand better and Bioware would be forced to actually put effort into making games again.
I was wrong. There is no common ground. Biodrones are just pissed that the ending was bad, missing the point that the story is fucking stupid, the writing too often dips down into awful, the gameplay is riddled with control issues, and the C&C promised through the entire series is often resolved with a few lines of dialog, or 50 points to your EMS. That's not even a full list of problems, that's just off the top of my head. It seems like nobody outside the Codex even cares about critical analysis of ME3, like except for the ending the game is perfect. I give up. Fuck Bioware and fuck its fanbase.
I was wrong. There is no common ground. Biodrones are just pissed that the ending was bad, missing the point that the story is fucking stupid, the writing too often dips down into awful, the gameplay is riddled with control issues, and the C&C promised through the entire series is often resolved with a few lines of dialog, or 50 points to your EMS. That's not even a full list of problems, that's just off the top of my head. It seems like nobody outside the Codex even cares about critical analysis of ME3, like except for the ending the game is perfect. I give up. Fuck Bioware and fuck its fanbase.
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Mrowak
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Sad but true. I am fighting off Biodrones on TWitcher boards. Those creatures are so deluded that after pointing them to all the plotholes, inconsistencies, unresolved threads, they can say "Yeah, beside those 100 issues you mention the game is perfect".
Yeah, beside tasting like crap, shit that came from digesting french fries is just mashed potatos.
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They are sorry for making a shit ending.
http://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/21/4108/
Now wait for them to charge $30 for DLC that adds more crappy endings.
http://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/21/4108/
Now wait for them to charge $30 for DLC that adds more crappy endings.
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