Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[octavius]

MM 3-5 are kids' stuff, 1, 2 and 6 are not.

 

[Eggs is eggs]

2 isn't that bad due to the automap and the cuisinart.

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

6 is a step up in difficulty from 3-5, but I still wouldn’t say it’s as difficult or as 1 or 2 (or any Wizardry title for that matter*)

*Havent played 8

 

[Darth Canoli]

MM 3-5 are kids' stuff, 1, 2 and 6 are not.

The "kids stuff" is MM8 (9 is nobody's stuff ), 7 is about the same difficulty as 3 i think, although for me Isles of terra was harder due to Ludwig's mod (monsters have higher chances to apply status, among other goodies ).

Xeen is only too easy if you cheese Clouds with Darkside's quests (Ludwig's mod fixes that too ).

Playing Mandate of Heaven with TCC on insane difficulty and i have to admit, it's really tough and i can't put my hands on meteor shower, this game is cruel !

By the way, party level 27, i love the mod, besides the retarded intro / logo.

 

[Tse Tse Fly]

Is this kind of glitches (look at the stairs) present on Windows? It's the GOG version patched GrayFace 2.1.

(I don't know why imgur added that white border)

 

[Darth Canoli]

Not that i'm aware of and i'm not getting it so it should be safe (except maybe on win 10).

 

[Strange Fellow]

I'm getting it.
I'm on Windows 10.

 

[Wayward Son]

I get it on occasion on win10 as well, depending on the angle I’m looking at shit at.

 

[fantadomat]

I'm on Windows 10.

This is the bug,get rid of it!

 

[Darth Canoli]

My bad, i'm getting it too with Winbug 8.

That said, i remember display glitches being far worse around release.

Fuck, looks my Paladin promotion quest in TCC is fucked because i did a main quest "too early", apparently, i'll get it "for free" later on (looks like i'm going to get robbed of MY xp ! )

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

These MM6 dungeons are no joke. The "Might and Magic is easy RPG for kids" thing obviously doesn't apply to this entry either, unless I'm doing things way out of order. Currently creeping through Colargol's Estate, the layout of which is very pleasant for the man with many cheeses, with lots of nice long shooting lanes (or "hallways", if you will) in which to pelter meandering ghosts with enough arrows to outfit a small army.

M&M 6-8 are not easy because dungeons are easy but because it's almost impossible to get completely screwed in those games unless you do something very dumb or venture into a very-high level area on accident. Whenever fights get messy you can just turn around and dart out of the dungeon since your party is faster than most monsters. Later on escaping gets even easier.

 

[Mightmagic]

MM 3-5 are kids' stuff, 1, 2 and 6 are not.

6 is not a difficult game.
But 6 is less good than 3-5 for many reasons.

 

[Darth Canoli]

But 6 is less good than 3-5 for many reasons.

True but Might & Magic 6 is better in an important one, sound effects, after spending hours on these, at some point, i really want to turn the sound off but it's not that enjoyable without sound, so there's that.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

6 is way the hell harder than 3-5; Xeen combat is popamole in comparison to Mandate.

 

[Mightmagic]

6 is way the hell harder than 3-5; Xeen combat is popamole in comparison to Mandate.

I haven't find that M&M 6 was difficult because the very bad AI + 3d environnement allow to win without difficulty.
M&M games since M&M3 are not difficult games.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Once again I am thankful for being bad at games. I love being challenged by stuff that's designed to be challenging. Dunno what I'd do if I weren't.

 

[Darth Roxor]

might and magic 6 is a first person shooter, so of course emaciated rpg nerds would find it difficult

 

[Strange Fellow]

I play mostly turn-based. Do people not do that? It feels more effective for arrow-pelting, as enemies don't advance too quickly and it's easy to hit real-time, turn around and run away a little to get some distance once they get too close. Back-pedalling is too slow.

 

[Tse Tse Fly]

Do you think it's a good idea (in MM6) to train magic skills in the case of archers? Quite often (typically in dungeons) it's difficult to avoid getting in close combat, and it looks unfun to me to have my archer using plain close combat weapons to stay effective when she could use spells. Will she be able to get enough skill points to Master elemental magic skills (Earth, for example)?

And could you confirm this - Air Magic does NOT require investing a specific amount of skill points for a character to become a Master in it, only 4000 gold and Arch Mage status, right?

 

[Darth Canoli]

Fire magic at master level for the archer seems mandatory to me for fireball / meteor shower and incineration, water is quite useful for extra Lloyd's Beacons, i'd skip earth for him even if mass distortion is a must and air might not be that useful either.

Still, high level weapon skills don't get you anything significant so i'd get all 4 magic schools to master level with my archer anyway, in fact, that's what i'm doing with my current party.

it's easy to hit real-time, turn around and run away a little to get some distance once they get too close

Nope !
Once they get too close (if they dare) is when they die in agony ...

 

[Luzur]

These MM6 dungeons are no joke. The "Might and Magic is easy RPG for kids" thing obviously doesn't apply to this entry either, unless I'm doing things way out of order. Currently creeping through Colargol's Estate, the layout of which is very pleasant for the man with many cheeses, with lots of nice long shooting lanes (or "hallways", if you will) in which to pelter meandering ghosts with enough arrows to outfit a small army.

M&M 6-8 are not easy because dungeons are easy but because it's almost impossible to get completely screwed in those games unless you do something very dumb or venture into a very-high level area on accident. Whenever fights get messy you can just turn around and dart out of the dungeon since your party is faster than most monsters. Later on escaping gets even easier.

Or, get enemies stuck on torches, slopes or furnitures, and snipe them from a safe distance with arrows. (it works wonders with Q, in his little torch filled room in the star lake temple.)

 

[fantadomat]

Do you think it's a good idea (in MM6) to train magic skills in the case of archers? Quite often (typically in dungeons) it's difficult to avoid getting in close combat, and it looks unfun to me to have my archer using plain close combat weapons to stay effective when she could use spells. Will she be able to get enough skill points to Master elemental magic skills (Earth, for example)?

And could you confirm this - Air Magic does NOT require investing a specific amount of skill points for a character to become a Master in it, only 4000 gold and Arch Mage status, right?

The best combat spell is sparks,with mage and archer you could clean a lot of enemies by putting it on quick cast. I also use it to kill fire dragons. The other great combat spell is fireblast. The first two that you should get to master are air and water for the town portal. A good early skill to max is the merchant one,leveling is very expensive later on.

 

[huntsman1899]

How do the dungeons of MM7 compare to 6? I've heard they are smaller, but is there any more depth to them as far as puzzle solving or role playing? Or just more killing/looting with a few random switches?

 

[fantadomat]

How do the dungeons of MM7 compare to 6? I've heard they are smaller, but is there any more depth to them as far as puzzle solving or role playing? Or just more killing/looting with a few random switches?

They are not exactly smaller,they are smaller than the biggest dungeon in MM6. Many retards forget that MM6 also had a lot of small dungeons. The MM6 are more of random rooms filled with monsters like castle Darkmoor,while MM7 are more logically put together. Both games are great tho,even MM8 is great. If you like one of them,you will like the others too....unless you are an edgy grandpa pretending to like games.

 

[cvv]

Yeah, 6-8 are all equally great. My favourite is 7, just because I absolutely love the Light/Dark choice mid-game. What a great feature, why more RPGs haven't done it is beyond me. Nowadays you can only join the Imperials or the Stormcloaks, with a fuckall impact on the rest of the game.

P.S.: Well, I suppose Witcher 2 is one of the exceptions.