Decline The new Thiaf game is MASSIVE decline - Eidos Forum Refugee Camp

[Zewp]

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Growing up, were you one of those children who would have rather played with dog turds than to play with no toys at all?

Sometimes something is not necessarily better than nothing. Hell knows I love the stealth genre myself, but I at least have standards.

 

[DalekFlay]

Sometimes something is not necessarily better than nothing. Hell knows I love the stealth genre myself, but I at least have standards.

Maybe, but I'm sure it's equally possible you're massively butthurt about the name on the box and missing a relatively decent stealth game.

 

[Zewp]

Maybe, but I'm sure it's equally possible you're massively butthurt about the name on the box and missing a relatively decent stealth game.

Gameplay videos definitely seem to indicate otherwise.

Rubbish is rubbish, no matter what it's called.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Here's a good Thief community trolling guide.
Hope you girls learn something new for/about yourself.

 

[DraQ]

gayrrett

The laughs don't stop at the RPGCodex.

It's Garetta.


Stay classy, Darth Slaughter .

 

[Dreaad]

Here's a good Thief community trolling guide.
Hope you girls learn something new for/about yourself.

Ironically this cartoon has better art direction and story when compared to Pleb Thiaf.

 

[JarlFrank]

If there were literally a thousands stealth classics from history to play like there are RPGs I could see ignoring a modern one, but there aren't.

http://www.thiefmissions.com/search.cgi?search=&sort=release#m

 

[Sonus]

Fanworks aren't official, fnaworks cannot cross certain legal lines or fully embrace an IP, and while there are many that excel, many more don't, and many don't even care to uphold a standard. Thief-based fanworks don't affect the industry very much, nor demonstrate to the publishers the niche audience is worth developing games for.

 

[tuluse]

Fanworks aren't official, fnaworks cannot cross certain legal lines or fully embrace an IP, and while there are many that excel, many more don't, and many don't even care to uphold a standard. Thief-based fanworks don't affect the industry very much, nor demonstrate to the publishers the niche audience is worth developing games for.

wut

 

[DalekFlay]

If there were literally a thousands stealth classics from history to play like there are RPGs I could see ignoring a modern one, but there aren't.

http://www.thiefmissions.com/search.cgi?search=&sort=release#m

I didn't realize mod levels were entirely new games. Mind = blown.

 

[Azazel]

If there were literally a thousands stealth classics from history to play like there are RPGs I could see ignoring a modern one, but there aren't.

http://www.thiefmissions.com/search.cgi?search=&sort=release#m

I didn't realize mod levels were entirely new games. Mind = blown.

http://www.thief2x.com/

http://www.thedarkmod.com

http://www.moddb.com/mods/nehrim-at-fates-edge

http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

http://www.moddb.com/mods/dota-allstars

http://www.moddb.com/mods/red-orchestra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike

 

[tuluse]

I didn't realize mod levels were entirely new games. Mind = blown.

That's basically what Thief 2 was

 

[Bubbles]

And Deadly Shadows was just a total conversion of Invisible War.

 

[Darth Slaughter]

If there were literally a thousands stealth classics from history to play like there are RPGs I could see ignoring a modern one, but there aren't.

http://www.thiefmissions.com/search.cgi?search=&sort=release#m

I didn't realize mod levels were entirely new games. Mind = blown.

Well... the worst thief FM is a better stealth game than any other stealth in any other game franchise. I just realise I like Stealth genre because of thief. If there was no thief TDP, but all the "stealth"games that came later existed in the same way they are, stealth would be just a gameplay element. Since I played thief, I payed attention to every game that mentioned having stealth as a gameplay device, or being part the "genre" stealth, and NONE of them came even close to what thief did, except early splinter cells and dishonored... but they're still inferior.

I bet there are "one level" FM that take longer to finish than thiaf, and without making you get bored.

 

[SharkClub]

DalekFlay I can assure you this game is not worth playing, "stealth" game or not (it's not).

 

[DalekFlay]

I just did the prologue and chapter one and it's certainly a stealth game, not sure how it could be anything else. I played on master mode and the guards actually see you super easy, and taking one out from behind makes a lot of noise. It also instantly game-overs if you attack anyone else.

Anyway it seemed half terrible and half decent. Most of it was a straight line walking simulator, which was terrible, but certain areas once I got to Stonemarket were more open and fun. The jewelry store felt like classic Thief quite a bit.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

Well... the worst thief FM is a better stealth game than any other stealth in any other game franchise.

FUCK. NO.

Just like there exist brilliant mods for games, there also exist bad ones. The Thief series are no exception. I've played about 95% of all FMs made for Thief 1/2. Trust me, there are some truly bad ones out there.

 

[Darth Slaughter]

Well... the worst thief FM is a better stealth game than any other stealth in any other game franchise.

FUCK. NO.

Just like there exist brilliant mods for games, there also exist bad ones. The Thief series are no exception. I've played about 95% of all FMs made for Thief 1/2. Trust me, there are some truly bad ones out there.

Sorry sir, I know that... it was an extreme quote. I was actually disconsidering FMs that are like kids drawings, unplayable, too terrible to even bother... By worst, I actually meant things like "keeper of the prophecies", and in your case... "calendra's legacy"...

The worst of the worst, those I don't consider they exist at all... just like thief 4 never existed...

 

[Melan]

That's basically what Thief 2 was

Now there is a post worth three monocles. Thief 2 is a classic because of a few great levels (Shipping and Receiving, Bank and of course Life of the Party), and the hundreds and hundreds of fan missions. If the game industry hadn't turned into the colossal shitheap it became, and we had seen a range of new games building from the Thief/DX/SS2 formula, we would rightfully see the basic game as a deeply flawed mission disk instead of a masterpiece. LGS shovelware before they moved on to their next big hit.
Unfortunately, the deeply flawed mission disk still comes out light years ahead of other games.

Sorry sir, I know that... it was an extreme quote. I was actually disconsidering FMs that are like kids drawings, unplayable, too terrible to even bother... By worst, I actually meant things like "keeper of the prophecies", and in your case... "calendra's legacy"...

What did Keeper of the Prophecies do to you to deserve that?

 

[Darth Slaughter]

Sorry sir, I know that... it was an extreme quote. I was actually disconsidering FMs that are like kids drawings, unplayable, too terrible to even bother... By worst, I actually meant things like "keeper of the prophecies", and in your case... "calendra's legacy"...

What did Keeper of the Prophecies do to you to deserve that?

too big, readables that are entire books, disconected missions, slow cutscenes...

 

[Unkillable Cat]

The above-named FMs aren't the truly bad ones I was referring to. I don't remember the names of any of the bad ones right now except maybe "The Acid Trip", but I'm talking about FMs that actually got released that had, at best, half a good idea behind them. FMs that had the same lighting throughout, no consideration for shadows, tuned-up AIs that could catch up with you in a blink of an eye and smite you, stuff like that.

 

[DraQ]

Oh, and by the way, I have a simple solution for tester driven decline - just fire the tester(s) who were the slowest on the uptake.

 

[Azazel]

Oh, and by the way, I have a simple solution for tester driven decline - just fire the tester(s) who were the slowest on the uptake.

Most places get massive kickbacks from the government for hiring "undesirables" as their QA, at least in Canada: EA notoriously used to staff their Burnaby campus with homeless crackheads, before they outsourced to Volt. Volt is well known for hiring people who are mentally disabled, as well as the homeless, since they can write off a huge portion of their minimum-wage salary as tax deductible.

 

[JarlFrank]

So, games are literally made for retards, who would've thought...

 

[Vibalist]

And what is this shit of being seen meaning game over?

I think that's just the tutorial. As far as I remember, the Thief 1 tutorial did pretty much the same thing (replay the stealth section until the keeper doesn't spot you, etc.).

As Dalekflay already said, playing on master difficulty or some such apparantly leads to game over if you kill someone, which is just like expert difficulty in the old games. I don't think being spotted is insta game over in the regular missions (though I could be wrong, I haven't played this). But basically none of this is different from Thief 1 and 2.