The Outer Worlds Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Terenty]

I wonder whats the ratio of faggots to normal human beings in their team, id guess something like 10/1

 

[Makabb]

How many torments are there?

There are atleast a few RPGs written near the level of Torment.

 

[Fairfax]

You'd think that with insanely positive response Private Division would be willing to pour some more money at least for the mod support.

They'd be more willing if they knew they could do sequels with Obs also but its a strange situation; I remember something like they could do sequels without Obs(?)

They have "long term rights" to develop sequels:

Who retains IP with Private Division projects?
With the exception of Kerbal Space Program, which we acquired earlier this year, our studio partners own the underlying IP, and we have long-term rights to develop sequels against these IPs.

However, it doesn't say anything potential exclusive rights, right of first refusal, etc.

 

[Sentinel]

So Torment is badly written ?

How many torments are there?

That's the problem. She wants to write books, not games. Writing games (badly) is just a hobby that pays for all 3 of them.

They wrote the only good parts of dumpsterfire (The Gullet), Patel is also responsible for much of White March as far as I am aware and Tyranny is just fine. Tyranny is also better written than either PoE1 or PoE2, but ends abruptly because it was sacked by Feargus and didn't get a follow up due bad sales.

Nothing in PoE2 or White March is worthy of note, though. Wasn't Tyranny mostly Matt MacLean's writing project? He was lead on that IIRC.

 

[Makabb]

So Torment is badly written ?

How many torments are there?

That's the problem. She wants to write books, not games. Writing games (badly) is just a hobby that pays for all 3 of them.

They wrote the only good parts of dumpsterfire (The Gullet), Patel is also responsible for much of White March as far as I am aware and Tyranny is just fine. Tyranny is also better written than either PoE1 or PoE2, but ends abruptly because it was sacked by Feargus and didn't get a follow up due bad sales.

Nothing in PoE2 or White March is worthy of note, though. Wasn't Tyranny mostly Matt MacLean's writing project? He was lead on that IIRC.

If the game will have shit writing, atleast Tim should create decent RPG mechanics, right? RIGHT ?

 

[Sentinel]

So Torment is badly written ?

How many torments are there?

That's the problem. She wants to write books, not games. Writing games (badly) is just a hobby that pays for all 3 of them.

They wrote the only good parts of dumpsterfire (The Gullet), Patel is also responsible for much of White March as far as I am aware and Tyranny is just fine. Tyranny is also better written than either PoE1 or PoE2, but ends abruptly because it was sacked by Feargus and didn't get a follow up due bad sales.

Nothing in PoE2 or White March is worthy of note, though. Wasn't Tyranny mostly Matt MacLean's writing project? He was lead on that IIRC.

If the game will have shit writing, atleast Tim should create decent RPG mechanics, right? RIGHT ?

The only Tim Cain game with decent mechanics is the one where he stole all the mechanics from a rulebook.

 

[Quillon]

You'd think that with insanely positive response Private Division would be willing to pour some more money at least for the mod support.

They'd be more willing if they knew they could do sequels with Obs also but its a strange situation; I remember something like they could do sequels without Obs(?)

They have "long term rights" to develop sequels:

Who retains IP with Private Division projects?
With the exception of Kerbal Space Program, which we acquired earlier this year, our studio partners own the underlying IP, and we have long-term rights to develop sequels against these IPs.

However, it doesn't say anything potential exclusive rights, right of first refusal, etc.

So Obs can do whatever with the IP themselves/with MS and PD can also until the long term ends, hmn.

 

[FreeKaner]

Nothing in PoE2 or White March is worthy of note, though. Wasn't Tyranny mostly Matt MacLean's writing project? He was lead on that IIRC.

Well I guess we'll disagree there. I thought Gullet was actually p. good and I liked White March overall. It seems to me more the writers at Obsidian just didn't know what to do with this BG/IWD/PS:T task they promised and just fumbled it all over the place alternating between badly copying D&D and BG storyline, trying to be deep and then just not knowing what to do with the world. I am not sure who was directing at Tyranny but regardless, all 3 of them are in no way a source of concern when under proper directing and can write good stuff. Especially considering Outerlands has a much greater team, different directors and just more writers.

 

[Makabb]

We need to see some stats, level up screen, character generation etc. Then we will know if it's shit or not.

 

[imweasel]

If the game will have shit writing, atleast Tim should create decent RPG mechanics, right? RIGHT ?

Yeah, The Outer Worlds might be playable if you can choose the option to hide all text and dialogue and just follow the quest markers.

 

[Fairfax]

So Obs can do whatever with the IP themselves/with MS and PD can also until the long term ends, hmn.

Not necessarily. For instance, it's possible the contract prevents T2 from using one of Obsidian's competitors to develop a sequel (like Bungie and Activision re: Destiny ports). T2 may also have a right of first refusal to publish Obsidian-developed sequels within that period, and there's the matter of who owns the first game's tools and/or tech (or what parts of it).

 

[Abu Antar]

I wonder whats the ratio of faggots to normal human beings in their team, id guess something like 10/1

 

[Viata]

How many torments are there?

There are atleast a few JRPGs written near the level of Torment.

Fixed that for you.

 

[PanteraNera]

Heh, they call it a "Borderlands, Prey-Quest-Solution, Fallout: New Vegas-Dialogs and Mass Effect-Companions"-Game.

 

[Jedi Exile]

I guess if Borderlands 3 won't be released next year, TOW can attract some of its fanbase. But if it will be released, TOW will be compared to Borderlands 3 and everybody will say that combat in TOW sucks, so the only hope that TOW will have good enough RPG elements. But the original plan, I think, was to cash in on disappointment of Fallout 76 and those people who wanted another Fallout: New Vegas and were unhappy with the direction Bethesda chosen with Fallout 4 and Fallout 76. Hence 'from creators of original Fallout'.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

People think this will be any good, I can't believe it.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

Megan Starks is very capable.

Here is a detailed list of everything she’s been responsible for:

http://www.fictivate.com/game-design.html

She’s no Avellone, but judging Starks soley based on Xoti and Kills-in-Shadow would be like judging MCA solely based on Neeshka, or whoever your least favorite NWN2 companions happen to be.

 

[Riddler]

So Torment is badly written ?

How many torments are there?

That's the problem. She wants to write books, not games. Writing games (badly) is just a hobby that pays for all 3 of them.

They wrote the only good parts of dumpsterfire (The Gullet), Patel is also responsible for much of White March as far as I am aware and Tyranny is just fine. Tyranny is also better written than either PoE1 or PoE2, but ends abruptly because it was sacked by Feargus and didn't get a follow up due bad sales.

While that might be true they are also responsible for some spectacular trash so it seems they can deliver under tight direction.

 

[Oracsbox]

Can we

I wonder whats the ratio of faggots to normal human beings in their team, id guess something like 10/1

This explains a lot.I now realize why the female characters look like dykes.

 

[Quillon]

 

[FreeKaner]

Look at how good the sound design and music is in that intro, you feel that?

We are not getting that in Outerlands. Justin Bell is going to sink this game. Someone has to kill him.

 

[Roguey]

This explains a lot.I now realize why the female characters look like dykes.

The artists draw what they see.

 

[Oracsbox]

This explains a lot.I now realize why the female characters look like dykes.

The artists draw what they see.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

You now remember in the midst of all these 'Obsidian will slay Bethesda' posts how Josh Sawyer praised Skyrim and Bethesda's Fallout a few months ago and how they were going in the right direction.

You now know what fear is.

 

[FreeKaner]

This explains a lot.I now realize why the female characters look like dykes.

The artists draw what they see.

Don't lash out at third parties because of your disillusionment with Sawyer, Roguey. It was a surprise for all of us he turned out to be a nazi, Austrofascist, Atlanto-Hyperborean Germanic supremacist as well as boring and unable to system design while looking at League of Legends salivating. However Patel and Starks aren't responsible for that. Sawyer plays Skyrim and banal brothers in his free time, Patel writers books set in dystopian fantasy with murder mystery and politics.