The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

[Shadenuat]

Byzantium does have street names on signs though. There's your Arcanum.

Not that you need them of course, due to ui and level design.

 

[Jack]

Terrorism is the poor man's war.

Rich man's proxy war morelike, generally speaking.

 

[Cyberarmy]

there is no pickpocket

Yes, there is.

Is there any interesting situation where you can use it, e.g. to resolve a quest?

Nope, anything important you can pickpocket is keycards and you won't need any because of lockpicking or hacking.


BTW I hacked end game "boss" ...

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

No pressure is necessary. Writing in general is becoming a pink-collar profession in the West, and there are aspects of video game writing that probably make it particularly suitable to women (lots of "secretarial" fill-in-the-blank tasks as opposed to stream of consciousness writing, lots of collaboration and teamwork, etc).

What?

Helen Hindpere wrote a lot of Disco Elysium and her work is top.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Lol after ToW seeing a real women made my day.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

War is the rich man's terrorism. Terrorism is the poor man's war.

VCR is the poor man's Laser Disc.

Terrorism is the poor man's war.

Rich man's proxy war morelike, generally speaking.

It's an emblematic KMFDM line, you peasants. Get cultured on industrial music.

 

[Prime Junta]

Lol after ToW seeing a real women made my day.

She says her work is inspired by her comrades and lovers. Get in line.

 

[Lacrymas]

She kinda looks like she thanks her husband for beating her.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Commies are not people.

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

My sense is that the developers who perform tasks associated with "area design" in the past would have also done the writing for those areas. Professional game development have evolved towards separating and specializing those roles.

Isn't that inherently connected with said areas becoming 3d, thus requiring professional graphic artists with actual modelling skills and understanding, instead of writers just dropping general ideas about an isometric area. Verticality and traversability are no longer as banal as they used to be.

I disagreed with you, but I changed my mind. The other problem with 3D nowadays, especially with the first-person view of most action cRPGs is that they are expected to emulate movies a lot. This pushes developers to either to attempt to imitate cinema to some extent or, what is worse, make high art cinema using videogaems. The result is pretentious trash and pointless writing that nobody ever asked.

 

[Grauken]

War is the rich man's terrorism. Terrorism is the poor man's war.

VCR is the poor man's Laser Disc.

Terrorism is the poor man's war.

Rich man's proxy war morelike, generally speaking.

It's an emblematic KMFDM line, you peasants. Get cultured on industrial music.

Nihil is their best album, start with that

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

She kinda looks like she thanks her husband for beating her.

You are gay, Lacrymas. I don't expect you to appreciate a top female.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Commies are not people.

Certainly, they are New People™.

Spoiler

Liberashkas and Trotskyites alike get the ice pick though.

 

[Lacrymas]

You are gay, Lacrymas.

Pfff, I wish I were.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Also, geez nobody is talking about how barebones TOW is as an RPG. Builds are non-existent, there is no pickpocket, no traps/mines, not even grenades! Not that much weapon variety, no gambling, no minigames, no haggling, no real sense of economy either in the world or in the numbers, it's such a lazy, lazy game. Why all the praise? Even forgetting about the story, how can you say the outer worlds has 60 dollars worth of gameplay in it?

The biggest thorn in my play is the itemization. I truly wish equipment had skill point requirements. I love when RPGs do that. I hate how here you can equip any weapon, or don any armor without any penalty. Although I totally understand that to reach a mass market audience, this would alienate the casuals.

Yeah itemization is the biggest source of annoyance for me. You could excuse Diablo style lout in a bigger game, even Witcher 3 with their massive production values ended up having shitty loot. But since this is a much smaller, more focused game, there's no need to have the whole world peppered with generic items.

Ruleset is growing on me as I keep playing though, due to all the mini-perks that open up as you advance each skill through tiers. It seems highly open to being exploitable and creating some broken funky shit, which is much prefered over le balance man raping all the fun out of games.

vs.

 

[toro]

Btw before anyone starts taking CohhCarnage too seriously and giving him too much credit for liking inclined RPGs like Elex, Pathfinder or Greedfall:



"MEA is one of my favourite Mass Effects. It combines the great world of the original trilogy with pioneering spirit of the old Star Trek. I loved the characters, I loved the story. The only thing preventing MEA to be my GOTY were the animations."

So yeah, this guy is basically a high-functioning idiot.

We agree to disagree.

Cohh is a smart cunt. Of course his taste is shit but the guy earns more than codex combined because he sucks corporate dick.

So, don't confuse natural retardation with intended retardation. After all, it's a victimless crime, nobody dies because MEA sold more copies.

 

[Zer0wing]

Nihil is their best album, start with that

WTF?!

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Nihil is their best album, start with that

WTF?!

KMFDM SUCKS!

 

[Riddler]

Why would completion rates be low, when even here most people can't seem to be able to quit?

I mean, judging by the last 50 pages, the internal monologue of TOW's biggest haters looks like this:


This is so bad.
You've gained a new level!
Why is everything so vapid?
You've opened a new container!
I don't want to play this anymore.
You've gained a new level!
I need to stop playing this.
You've opened a new container!
What is happening to me?
You've gained a new level!
FUCK THIS GAME!
You've opened a new container!
FUCK OBSIDIAN, FEARGUS AND MICROSOFT
You've gained a new level!
FUCK THIS GAY EARTH!
You've opened a new container!

The gameplay loop never really gives you time to breathe, let alone stop playing. Although I suspect all the lootwhoring is going to become intensely irritating during subsequent runs.

You haven't noticed the obsessive nature of the commentariat here?

 

[cvv]

We agree to disagree.

Cohh is a smart cunt. Of course his taste is shit but the guy earns more than codex combined because he sucks corporate dick.

So, don't confuse natural retardation with intended retardation. After all, it's a victimless crime, nobody dies because MEA sold more copies.

I have seen many of his videos, I know his schtick. He does stroke corporate dick but only gently. He's not robotically praising everything, he does say things like "it's not entirely my cup of tea but if you like XYZ you'll love it". THAT's something smart cunts say, yes.

But saying Andromeda is one of his favourite ME games, that the writing is phenomenal and the only problem with the game are the animations crosses the line of smart cuntery into the territory of genuine retardery.

 

[Darkzone]

Spoiler

Hamburg in 80s was an awesome city with a vivid underground. Miss these times.

Commies are not people.

Only because one polish guy has killed commies and no people?

 

[Seethe]

Tools of capital cannot criticize capitalism, they can only set up a caricature of it which they can attack. SJWs are the SocDems of today in terms of ideological incoherence and lack of self awareness.

If you participate in a capitalist society due to being born in it, or in a capitalist system due to a lack of other options, it means you cannot criticize capitalism, got it. The people who wrote this game aren't executives or shareholders. Just grunts who took their freedom to make a caricature of capitalism. Why is this a problem exactly? You think that everyone who has a job now is a capitalist that lacks self awareness because they hate capitalism? That's some galaxy brain shit right there.

50 pages in post release, and snowflake libertarians/ancaps still foaming at the mouth and spouting retarded shit. The roles in the triggering culture have switched. Some of you were foaming at the mouth due to Jim Sterling's video, and the reasons were mainly chimp noises. It's called having an opinion, snowflakes.

 

[Prime Junta]

50 pages in post release, snowflake ancaps still foaming at the mouth and spouting retarded shit.

There’s not much to talk about with the game. Then Politician posted a pic of Helen and we all paused for a moment in silent, respectful contemplation. Except Lacrymas of course, he has no class.

 

[Ivan]

Me: I'm not entirely convinced, how bout I give you an interview

Felix: uhhh ok

Me: What's the value of pi?

Felix: Ummmm...it's delicious?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Tools of capital cannot criticize capitalism, they can only set up a caricature of it which they can attack. SJWs are the SocDems of today in terms of ideological incoherence and lack of self awareness.

If you participate in a capitalist society, or in a capitalist system due to a lack of other options, it means you cannot criticize capitalism. Got it. The people who wrote this game aren't executives or shareholders. Just grunts who took their freedom to make a caricature of capitalism. Why is this a problem exactly?

As far as the game is concerned, there is no problem. The quality of the setting speaks for itself.

Now as far as a critique of capitalism is concerned, Marxists were participating in the system, including some in high socio-economic standing (up to the likes of Marx himself and Engels which many liberashkas like to bring up). The problem with Social Democrats is that they were not proposing a different solution to the issue of capitalism (as were Fascist Syndicalists and Corporatists), but instead betraying the revolutionary idea in favor of rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's - accepting the capitalist status quo and renouncing not the practical viability of revolution (as were plenty of Marxists either by choosing to pragmatically stay on the sidelines or simply out of political impotency), but the castration of political Marxism itself by renouncing revolution itself and eliminating it from the doctrine of socialism. If you are a SocDem, you aren't a socialist; you are simply a liberal that is either pragmatic and wants to avoid the proles and peasants getting too uppity or a bleeding heart faggot such as the modern SJWs and champagne socialists.