The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

[Infinitron]

Most notable thing in the interviews is that they actually began development on this expansion in January 2019. Then because the game was successful, they decided to restart development and make it much bigger. At RPGSite they say it has about the same amount of content as Monarch.

Here's a few more interviews:
https://www.mmorpg.com/the-outer-wo...y-player-response-to-original-game-2000118863
https://audioboom.com/posts/7638969-the-outer-worlds-peril-on-gorgon-interview
https://checkpointmagazine.com/interview-obsidian-on-the-outer-worlds-peril-on-gorgon-dlc/
https://www.shacknews.com/article/1...orgon-interview-from-pulp-sci-fi-to-pulp-noir

 

[Dishonoredbr]

They're calling it an expansion, not a DLC, so I expect more than 5h of content. But otherwise yeah, lack of improvements on the mechanical side is a massive disappointment so far. What good is a higher level cap if there's nothing interesting to gain from the levels anyway.

But now you can pick new perks, like +3% to walk speed or +5 to science weapons damage!

I fixed your typos.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/20...leuthing-with-peril-on-gorgon-this-september/

Theyre saying its £11.99

That's actually reasonable.

I think this is the priece if you use game pass (10% discount). The base price is $14,99.

 

[Infinitron]

That's 11.99 pounds sterling, Dishonoredbr. RPS must have gotten a UK-specific press release.

 

[DalekFlay]

Codex uncovers "DLC looks like more of the main game" shocker!

 

[Tyranicon]

After Outer Worlds, i'm not looking forward to this.

I pretty much ignored that one and didn't read the thread. Was it just boring, or was it incredibly buggy to top it all off?

I didn't encounter any bugs in my short time with Outer Worlds. I wouldn't even say it was boring exactly, just lackluster and undercooked.

I quit when a group of raiders took a hostage, and you could overhear them talking about how much of a ransom they could get, and how they wished they could get this over with. But there was no way to bargain or negotiate with them, sneak past them or distract them to save the hostage - the only way to continue that mission was to walk towards them while left clicking.

Outer Worlds is the most solidly meh game I've played this year.

 

[Flou]

First of two projects huh? Maybe this will be the “Hearts of Stone” sized one and then there will be a larger “Blood and Wine” type expansion? Didn’t expect them to do two, I honestly only expected one and for them to then move on to the sequel.

They are on pre-production with TOW2. They don't have the staff to fully staff it right now, with Avowed taking bulk of the work force. Once Avowed starts ramping down, they will throw staff at TOW2.

Anyways, it's better that they take their time with the 2nd one. Cain and Boyarsky aren't stupid, give them time and resources and they should be able to make a way better game than the original.

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

^They didn't make their videogame a colorblind eyesore for lack of time or resources.

 

[Flou]

As expected, a 5 hour DLC that'll probably cost 30 bux and offers one big tube map (because consoles still can't handle open spaces) and half a dozen items.

That's GamePass for you. They need steady stream of new content from their studios. When you have studios like Obsidian, you will want to expand their games with DLCs.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

As big as Monarch sounds kind of nice.

 

[pomenitul]

I'm gonna wait and pick up the complete Steam edition for 10 bucks in 2023.

 

[jf8350143]

The questions is can you buy the DLC if you only have game pass instead of the game.

 

[oldmanpaco]

I can't wait to pay $8.99 for the Definitive Enhanced Special Edition GoTY version during the summer 2021 steam sale.

 

[Roguey]

The questions is can you buy the DLC if you only have game pass instead of the game.

You can get it with a 10% discount if you have a gamepass subscription, yes.

 

[Blaine]

Well, naturally. The DLC is where they make the real money, after all.

Apparently The Outer Worlds not only exists and was indeed released, but costs $60 when not on sale. Now, I'm usually the last person to price-haggle, but uh... the developers themselves have said that this was a relatively low-budget initial effort, and it's generally agreed to be 20-30 hours long.

I paid Styg over $200 for Underrail by buying lots of copies and giving them away for free. I paid $250 for Pillars of Eternity (oof) and $1,000 for Numanuma (finally learned my crowdfunding lesson there). I'm not a damned beggar. That said, in this industry, how do you justify charging $60 (and $30? for DLC) for a small-scale, limited-budget effort? I don't understand.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

That said, in this industry, how do you justify charging $60 (and $30? for DLC) for a small-scale, limited-budget effort? I don't understand.

Because how a product is priced has nothing to do with the cost production but more on customer prespective the product (and how that affect sales adn relted investment project matrix e.g. how much to reach BEP, etc).

Most indie games are cheap not (only) due to relatively low production cost but also because nobody would pay 30 USD+ for relatively unknown indie games. A strong example is Rimworld: it is indie games with massive breakout success. While the pricing is still on the indie level, it is one of the few indie games with nearly no sales at all in Steam. The dev knows that most people today know that it is a very good "DF lite" and know they can get away with their pricing strategy (namely having no discount at all).

It is also why Apple products that is made in China can be more expensive than phone made in countries with more expensive production cost than China (e.g. Samsung).

While no concrete data on revenue and dev cost exist for TOW it is generally accepted that TOW is a financial and critical success for Obsidian. It is for all intent a and purposes a "good game" in the mainstream and thus can be sold for higher price point. DLC for such game of course, follow the same strategy.

 

[Yosharian]

Good god that looked AWFUL

 

[JDR13]

They are on pre-production with TOW2.

Source?

 

[Duraframe300]

They are on pre-production with TOW2.

Source?

There's no source for it (AFAIK) apart from Microsoft being very interested in making OW a franchise.
But, Carrie Patel helming the Outer Worlds DLC makes you wonder what Tim and Leonard are doing.

 

[JDR13]

But, Carrie Patel helming the Outer Worlds DLC makes you wonder what Tim and Leonard are doing.

The main game was enough to make me wonder what they're doing.

 

[Bliblablubb]

As big as Monarch sounds kind of nice.

That "+30% +3% walkspeed" perk sounds like a mandatory pick then.

 

[Infinitron]

As big as Monarch sounds kind of nice.

That "+30% +3% walkspeed" perk sounds like a mandatory pick then.

I said that it has as much content as Monarch, not that it's physically as large as Monarch. They also said in the interview that in terms of size the Gorgon Asteroid is similar to Roseway.

 

[Flou]

Source?

Brians Heins hinted about this in one of the MattChats. He is working as a Content Director currently with a very small team on a new large project that is in pre-production. Sawyer's Missouri has been in the works long enough for it to leave pre-production, so it's not that and the scope for that game is small, so definitely not Project Missouri.

Heins worked on The Outer Worlds and Cain & Boyarsky are clearly up to something since Carrie Patel and most likely Brandon Adler took over reins for the two TOW DLCs.

The game was commercially successful. They will make a sequel to it, sooner than later. So few staff members working on it makes perfect sense, so once production on other projects ramps down (the DLCs and Avowed), they have the guidelines for the staff members ready.

With Avowed and Outer Worlds both being "the big projects" at Obsidian, it would seem likely that a sequel to TOW is next in line, rather than them coming up with a 3rd IP.

 

[Wunderbar]

With Avowed and Outer Worlds both being "the big projects" at Obsidian, it would seem likely that a sequel to TOW is next in line, rather than them coming up with a 3rd IP.

they are still going to follow in someone elses footsteps.

bioware: mass effect - dragon age - mass effect - dragon age - mass effect ...
bethesda: fallout - TES - fallout - TES - fallout ...
CDPR: witcher - CP77 - witcher (?) - CP77 (?) ...

Obsidian: TOW - FPS POE - TOW - FPS POE ...

 

[RepHope]

They are on pre-production with TOW2.

Source?

MS has said they want to turn TOW into a franchise. We’ll probably know if they actually will if we hear that MS has bought out Take-Two’s right of first refusal with TOW2. There’s no way MS is letting TOW2 release on PS and no way Take-Two would allow Obsidian ignoring the largest console base. So if Obsidian wants to make a sequel MS will have to buy out Take-Two when it comes to the IP.

 

[Duraframe300]

They are on pre-production with TOW2.

Source?

MS has said they want to turn TOW into a franchise. We’ll probably know if they actually will if we hear that MS has bought out Take-Two’s right of first refusal with TOW2. There’s no way MS is letting TOW2 release on PS and no way Take-Two would allow Obsidian ignoring the largest console base. So if Obsidian wants to make a sequel MS will have to buy out Take-Two when it comes to the IP.

Was it ever confirmed that they even have first refusal rights for OW2?