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The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

Prime Junta

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Is it like KotOR where you get to pick the order of the planets or is it railroaded?

At least partly railroaded. I didn't actually check every bit of this so I may be mistaken (I'll note the bits I didn't verify), but it goes something like this:

First, you're dropped at Edgewater. You need to complete the quests there to get your spaceship back in the air, until then you can't leave.
Then, you go to a space station, where you're informed that you need a landing permit to get to Stellar Bay on Monarch, which is the next step for the quest. So I ran errands to do that. However, I think Cascadia, another location on the same map as the quest target is open, so you could actually go straight there, then trek cross-country.
Another couple of locations appear to be open on the map all the time. I didn't check whether they were open from the beginning or if something I did opened them.
There is at least one major location* (Byzantium) which is still locked. I checked. It figures in a companion quest and a dialogue option with her actually was "But we can't get into Byzantium."

*Apart from the endgame dungeon

So this is much more closed than Fallout 1, 2, 3, NV, or even KOTOR, with many significant areas plot gated.
 

toro

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is asexuality an actual sexuality?

No it isn't. This is caused by a hormone imbalance or mental trauma from being molested, similar to homosexuality. All of these illnesses are caused and can be cured.

To even pretend that these illnesses are going to be in a SCI FI setting with space ships and plasma guns is ridiculous to say the least.
"I'm asexual"

quest notification: take Parvati to the doctor dungeon
 

Popiel

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No it isn't. This is caused by a hormone imbalance or mental trauma from being molested, similar to homosexuality. All of these illnesses are caused and can be cured.

To even pretend that these illnesses are going to be in a SCI FI setting with space ships and plasma guns is ridiculous to say the least.
Sources...?
 

DalekFlay

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This is her whole thing!

- It's like Cook-Cook is rapist
- MCA: ok... but why?

- Well Parvati she's like asexual
- MCA: ok... but why??
- WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHY

Her whole personal quest is dis shit!

I'm 10 hours in and there has barely been any of it so far. She talked about her dad a lot and was awkward around the guy who had a crush on her, that's it. If it gets "hammer to the head" annoying later, I'll be sure to call it out.
 

felipepepe

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Is it like KotOR where you get to pick the order of the planets or is it railroaded?

At least partly railroaded. I didn't actually check every bit of this so I may be mistaken (I'll note the bits I didn't verify), but it goes something like this:

First, you're dropped at Edgewater. You need to complete the quests there to get your spaceship back in the air, until then you can't leave.
Then, you go to a space station, where you're informed that you need a landing permit to get to Stellar Bay on Monarch, which is the next step for the quest. So I ran errands to do that. However, I think Cascadia, another location on the same map as the quest target is open, so you could actually go straight there, then trek cross-country.
Another couple of locations appear to be open on the map all the time. I didn't check whether they were open from the beginning or if something I did opened them.
There is at least one major location (Byzantium) which is still locked. I checked. It figures in a companion quest and a dialogue option with her actually was "But we can't get into Byzantium."

So this is much more closed than Fallout 1, 2, 3, NV, or even KOTOR, with many significant areas plot gated.
On this part I disagree, you can actually try to report Phineas when you arrive at the Space Station and that opens an alternate path where you go to Roseway at Terra 2, then Bizantiun, THEN Monarch.
 

Mojobeard

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One of the things that works in these types of games is everything having a clear identity. Broad strokes. Hooman brain like clear distinction, ugh.
F:NV factions are all obvious; inmate explodyboys, greasers, romans, etc. You immediately know who I'm talking about. Try in just a few words describe any of these corporations. Hell, take your time and try remembering anything about them.
And it is a Star Wars thing to have an city planet, a desert planet, forest planet, etc. But it works, worked in KotORs well in giving a broad identity to a planet. Like an ice level and an undersea level in an old platformer. The game is visually incredibly bland in something that's not going for realism and with such saturated colors.
It's just one of those things that needs to be underlined many times in the design doc. And they fucked it up.
 

Riddler

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Bubbles In Memoria
There is at least one major location* (Byzantium) which is still locked. I checked. It figures in a companion quest and a dialogue option with her actually was "But we can't get into Byzantium."

You can enter Byzantium if you buy the Board guy's ID badge back from the granny. You don't have to go through with selling out the scientist guy.
 

cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
So I started a new New Vegas playthrough. Last time I played was maybe 5 years ago and I'm delighted to find out I don't remember jack shit from this game. It's like a fresh new experience, nice.

I've only cleared the tutorial village but so far I can say this - I was wrong, open-world is better. It's just fucking better, full stop. No matter the flaws - the occasional trudge, a few pointless places etc. - the feeling of freedom is priceless. Instances are fine but they'll always be inferior, especially if they're locked with retarded plot keys.

Also the tutorial quest in NV is meagre as fuck, at least TOW improved on that one thing. But the writing calibre is already clear, the dialogues and general vibe aren't forcing me to inject crystal meth directly into my brain to stay awake, altho the VO is shit to be honest. Just a 2010 standard I guess.
 

Popiel

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https://archive.is/LRe05 Enjoy. I've got some cool infographs too if you don't like reading.
You can go and fuck yourself with that last sentence, Repressed Homo. I'll take a look at that, though I can't tell if that's just a list of random links or list of research papers. I'm only interested in the latter to be clear. I see some jstor there, so that can be not completely worthless...
 

IHaveHugeNick

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Is it like KotOR where you get to pick the order of the planets or is it railroaded?

At least partly railroaded. I didn't actually check every bit of this so I may be mistaken (I'll note the bits I didn't verify), but it goes something like this:

First, you're dropped at Edgewater. You need to complete the quests there to get your spaceship back in the air, until then you can't leave.
Then, you go to a space station, where you're informed that you need a landing permit to get to Stellar Bay on Monarch, which is the next step for the quest. So I ran errands to do that. However, I think Cascadia, another location on the same map as the quest target is open, so you could actually go straight there, then trek cross-country.
Another couple of locations appear to be open on the map all the time. I didn't check whether they were open from the beginning or if something I did opened them.
There is at least one major location* (Byzantium) which is still locked. I checked. It figures in a companion quest and a dialogue option with her actually was "But we can't get into Byzantium."

*Apart from the endgame dungeon

So this is much more closed than Fallout 1, 2, 3, NV, or even KOTOR, with many significant areas plot gated.

I wouldn't say it's more closed then KOTOR - Edgewater is much quicker than either Peragus or Taris. Plus you can probably metagame your way out of it even faster and I'm guessing the same goes for the navkey to Monarch. Otherwise, yeah. I've been mostly diddlying around various planets so far and only doing main quest when it's convenient.
 

Molina

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Is it like KotOR where you get to pick the order of the planets or is it railroaded?

At least partly railroaded. I didn't actually check every bit of this so I may be mistaken (I'll note the bits I didn't verify), but it goes something like this:

First, you're dropped at Edgewater. You need to complete the quests there to get your spaceship back in the air, until then you can't leave.
Then, you go to a space station, where you're informed that you need a landing permit to get to Stellar Bay on Monarch, which is the next step for the quest. So I ran errands to do that. However, I think Cascadia, another location on the same map as the quest target is open, so you could actually go straight there, then trek cross-country.
Another couple of locations appear to be open on the map all the time. I didn't check whether they were open from the beginning or if something I did opened them.
There is at least one major location (Byzantium) which is still locked. I checked. It figures in a companion quest and a dialogue option with her actually was "But we can't get into Byzantium."

So this is much more closed than Fallout 1, 2, 3, NV, or even KOTOR, with many significant areas plot gated.
On this part I disagree, you can actually try to report Phineas when you arrive at the Space Station and that opens an alternate path where you go to Roseway at Terra 2, then Bizantiun, THEN Monarch.
We have nothing to decide on.The choice is given far too early.
 

DalekFlay

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We have nothing to decide on.The choice is given far too early.

Only reason to do it immediately is if you're playing a ruthless mercenary I guess. As long as you can get more info and THEN make that decision though, I think it's fine. My plan (assuming it's possible) is to go to the guy's space station and talk to him, then decide.

P.S. Funny that people bitching constantly about the game are much further into it than I am, someone who enjoys the game. It's the weekend and I haven't had work, too.
 

Molina

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We have nothing to decide on.The choice is given far too early.

Only reason to do it immediately is if you're playing a ruthless mercenary I guess. As long as you can get more info and THEN make that decision though, I think it's fine. My plan (assuming it's possible) is to go to the guy's space station and talk to him, then decide.

P.S. Funny that people bitching constantly about the game are much further into it than I am, someone who enjoys the game. It's the weekend and I haven't had work, too.
Maybe I can come back. But it surprises me that after barely an hour of play, not knowing what the issues were, I could decide to join forces with the "bad guys" for no reason.
 

Goldschmidt

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Pillars of Eternity doesn't seem all that bad all of the sudden

Deadfire is a way better game than TOW, it is also way better than the so appraised Fallout New Vegas on the codex. Tried out the game earlier this year and really wonder what the fuck is so special about it. Gameplay is horrendous. Writing is serviceable but I honestly dont give two fucks about writing in a video game.
 

jungl

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Writing in this game for most part is neutral some parts you can see the goofy young adult female leftist crap. Fallout 2 had silly writing and was alienating people that don't want to hear pop culture jokes. 90s era is gone we not going to see games with jocks slamming lockers and screaming faggot to the PC. With todays politics would said jock be respected as a relic of his time? Games have to be more inclusive lol.
 

turkishronin

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where the best is like the worst
I recall a few years ago someone in the Underrail thread said "What if we had a game with a combat system as refined as Underrail's and a story like Planescape Torment?" and Tim Cain replied "only one way to found out", implying that he's secretly working on such an ambitious project, which turned out to be The Outer Worlds.
 
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