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The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

TheImplodingVoice

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So, three years ago I posted this proposed new logo for Obsidian following the news of J. Sawyer's promotion to director:
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And what does their logo look like in The Outer Worlds?
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:balance::balance::balance::balance::balance::balance::balance::balance::balance::balance:
Good thing they took out the "Entertainment" part. Makes sense now.
 

PrettyDeadman

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I've beaten the game. Very easy on hard, but hardest doesn't seem to be any harder, just more annoying (permament death for braindead companions and hunger/thirst mechanics).
The game is a bit of mindless fun, but nowhere near the levels of deph and variety of fallout new vegas.
Also, the game feels TINY. Like, what is the point of point of no return save? What is there to return to?
 

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The problem isn't that games are infected by politics. The problem is that they're infected by shit politics.
The problem is that some devs want you to agree with their politics. It's a zero sum game without any compromise. Adopt our views or GTFO, is the idea for most of these valley girl writers.
The problem is that people want to pretend they care about politics because they want to signal their virtuosity and moral superiority via Twitter and Facebook. It's all about mindless superficial moral grandstanding. They don't really care about real-world problems. The only thing that matters is signaling the right things to their own group. That's it. Now, if we consider that cRPGs are supposed to be about systematic reactivity and deep choices, especially ones of moral nature, then it would be naive to suggest that this won't impact the quality of the quest design, writing, etc. Tough subjects are strong themes and require a strong hand, but you can't have that if your moral imperative is to parrot a sanitized image of a social justice warrior. Moreover, one of the common traits of these people is the presumption of infallibility. They don't consider the possibility that they may be wrong or that these controversial political subjects are open to interpretation. Otherwise, their pretense of moral superiority would vanish. So there is no real possibility that they would consider substantial feedback about these political blindspots with interest. If you add to that their bad work ethics they inherited from their fake pseudo-courses in women studies, copious amount of dunning kruger effect and poor direction, this is what you get. You have better technology to do cRPGs, a template to follow that has more than a decade, and yet the games are worse and worse. If Obsidian disappeared tomorrow, it would make no difference to experienced gamers.
Well said.
You can read a more sophisticated version of this criticism here. Or you also can watch this video.

 

Chaosdwarft

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To anyone wondering if you should buy this game on release: YES, YES, YES! DO IT NOW! Why are you standing there? GO BUY IT NOW!

Ave Maria, when was the last time we had some super hyped game that actually delivered what they promised! No microtransaction bullshit, no salami DLC, no day-one goodies or pre-purchase, almost no bugs at release, gameplay is nice, so is the dialogue, ...

Now if UK would actually BREXIT, 2019 will have been a good year :bounce:
 

Quillon

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Post less ffs, every time I visit thread's 10 pages further.

Just arrived at Byzantium, damn it looks impressive, seems to me they chose this art style specifically for Byzantium and adapted it to rest of the game. The game's finally somewhat exciting; a mysterious derelict ship and now Byzantium, guess the end is nigh :P
 

DalekFlay

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I'm fine with segregated areas. In fact it would be the only way to do a planet-hopping game like this, let's be honest. However after doing two areas plus the ship, I'm having an issue. Both those places were "land here, do everything in this area, then move to the next area." If that keeps being the case, unlike say Witcher 3 which gave you reason to jump back and forth between areas, then I'm gonna be bummed out. Makes the game feel super linear, even if it isn't.
 

Van-d-all

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Ave Maria, when was the last time we had some super hyped game that actually delivered what they promised! No microtransaction bullshit, no salami DLC, no day-one goodies or pre-purchase, almost no bugs at release, gameplay is nice, so is the dialogue, ...
That's the saddest thing about it. People keep recommending TOW not because of it's merit, but because it hasn't been stuffed with symptomatic AAA trash like microtransactions and DLCs :negative:
 

TheImplodingVoice

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The problem isn't that games are infected by politics. The problem is that they're infected by shit politics.
The problem is that some devs want you to agree with their politics. It's a zero sum game without any compromise. Adopt our views or GTFO, is the idea for most of these valley girl writers.
The problem is that people want to pretend they care about politics because they want to signal their virtuosity and moral superiority via Twitter and Facebook. It's all about mindless superficial moral grandstanding. They don't really care about real-world problems. The only thing that matters is signaling the right things to their own group. That's it. Now, if we consider that cRPGs are supposed to be about systematic reactivity and deep choices, especially ones of moral nature, then it would be naive to suggest that this won't impact the quality of the quest design, writing, etc. Tough subjects are strong themes and require a strong hand, but you can't have that if your moral imperative is to parrot a sanitized image of a social justice warrior. Moreover, one of the common traits of these people is the presumption of infallibility. They don't consider the possibility that they may be wrong or that these controversial political subjects are open to interpretation. Otherwise, their pretense of moral superiority would vanish. So there is no real possibility that they would consider substantial feedback about these political blindspots with interest. If you add to that their bad work ethics they inherited from their fake pseudo-courses in women studies, copious amount of dunning kruger effect and poor direction, this is what you get. You have better technology to do cRPGs, a template to follow that has more than a decade, and yet the games are worse and worse. If Obsidian disappeared tomorrow, it would make no difference to experienced gamers.
This is 100% spot on!!
 

flyingjohn

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Even the normies on reddit are calling this game out on how easy and mediocre it is.
When you get skyrim fans bitching about rpg stats and skills,you fucked up.
 

GentlemanCthulhu

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I would be very interested to see how TOW fairs on CODEX GotY. Also, i wonder who'll be reviewing it. How do you even go about reviewing such a controversial title?
 

Dishonoredbr

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Even the normies on reddit are calling this game out on how easy and mediocre it is.
When you get skyrim fans bitching about rpg stats and skills,you fucked up.

Worst aspect of the game is being stupidly easy , i playing pistol only with 50 points invested , Robophobia + Drug adiction and still pretty damn easy.
 

Chaosdwarft

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Ave Maria, when was the last time we had some super hyped game that actually delivered what they promised! No microtransaction bullshit, no salami DLC, no day-one goodies or pre-purchase, almost no bugs at release, gameplay is nice, so is the dialogue, ...
That's the saddest thing about it. People keep recommending TOW not because of it's merit, but because it hasn't been stuffed with symptomatic AAA trash like microtransactions and DLCs :negative:

I know it is sad it has come to this, but at least it's a step back in the right direction. For more than a decade we are suffering from casino like behavior from these game dev executives. Just the other evening I saw my cousin's daughter play this free-to-play game on her IPAD. It was one of those Chinese platformer games, where your character runs and you must make him jump at the correct time. Well every time, her character fell, she had a fucking pop up that asked her if she wanted to buy tickets (which cost money). Well I installed her a SNES and GBA emulator on her pad so she can play some of those classics without being bothered by ADS.

Gaming is like food & beverages, the more you try the good stuff, the more you can find what you truly like. If you eat shit your whole life then you will only like shitty things!
 

Reinhardt

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Ave Maria, when was the last time we had some super hyped game that actually delivered what they promised! No microtransaction bullshit, no salami DLC, no day-one goodies or pre-purchase, almost no bugs at release, gameplay is nice, so is the dialogue, ...
That's the saddest thing about it. People keep recommending TOW not because of it's merit, but because it hasn't been stuffed with symptomatic AAA trash like microtransactions and DLCs :negative:

I know it is sad it has come to this, but at least it's a step back in the right direction. For more than a decade we are suffering from casino like behavior from these game dev executives. Just the other evening I saw my cousin's daughter play this free-to-play game on her IPAD. It was one of those Chinese platformer games, where your character runs and you must make him jump at the correct time. Well every time, her character fell, she had a fucking pop up that asked her if she wanted to buy tickets (which cost money). Well I installed her a SNES and GBA emulator on her pad so she can play some of those classics without being bothered by ADS.

Gaming is like food & beverages, the more you try the good stuff, the more you can find what you truly like. If you eat shit your whole life then you will only like shitty things!
You really think it's because obsidian are saints or it's just epic store so shitty it can't deal with dlcs?
 

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