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The RPG Renaissance - the European Third Wave

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The first wave of the isometric RPG renaissance was the games that were crowdfunded in 2012. Wasteland 2, Pillars of Eternity, Divinity: Original Sin, Shadowrun Returns, Banner Saga, Expeditions: Conquistador, etc.

The second wave was the sequels and follow-up titles to those games, most of which were unsuccessful (with Divinity: Original Sin 2 as the famous sole exception).

The developers of the first wave have largely moved on to other things and for a while it seemed like the renaissance might be over.

But now we find ourselves facing a huge and unexpected third wave of isometric RPGs, virtually entirely spearheaded by European developers. It turns out that Pathfinder: Kingmaker and ATOM RPG, the games of the so-called "Russian RPG Renaissance" of 2018, were merely the precursors of this wave.

Dark Envoy (Poland)
Disco Elysium (Estonia)
Divinity: Fallen Heroes (Denmark)
Encased (Russia)
Gamedec (Poland)
Iron Danger (Finland)
Paranoia: Happiness is Mandatory (Ireland)
Project Witchstone (Quebec)
Realms Beyond (Germany)
Solasta: Crown of the Magister (France)
Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones (Turkey)
Urban Strife (Romania)
and probably more

These aren't low budget pixel art indies, procedurally generated roguelites, or AoD/Underrail-type amateur efforts that take a decade to complete. They all look polished and professional. Some of them are crowdfunded or will be, but many aren't. It's really an unprecedented situation for the genre. There are so many of them.
 

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Off the top of my heuristically inclined head, there's also Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones, from Turkey. We also have Jeff Vogel from the US seeing the writing on the wall and pre-emptively whining about his next game. Overall I agree, the situation is quite interesting.
 
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The reason for there not being many from USA is pretty simple: It's too expensive to hire talent in California/west-coast areas, combined with the games being made by people who would willingly live in California.
Most AAA developers(which generally have no interest in making these kinds of games) have completely left the area and opened studios in states with lower costs of living. Texas has exploded in the number of video game development studios over the past decade.
 

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Why is Project Witchstone listed as Quebec instead of Canada?
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Turkey isn't Europe :lol:

Neither is Quebec!

It will be kind of interesting to see Wasteland 3, the last survivor of the US-based first wave isometric RPG developers, face off against these newcomers.

Cultic is based in Istanbul. That’s still Europe unless somebody moved the Dardanelles like twenty miles west while I was asleep last night.
 
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You forgot quite a few

Alaloth: Champions of the Four Kingdoms (Italy)
Beast (Poland)
Black Geyser: Couriers of Darkness (Hungary)
Greedfall (France)
Kings Bounty 2 (Russia)
Waylanders (Spain)
The Way of Wrath (Georgia)

and the most slept on - Sigil



Also be on the lookout for what I have cooking in 2020
 

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Turkey isn't Europe :lol:
The ecole is same, so it's autistic to discuss it.

The first wave of the isometric RPG renaissance was the games that were crowdfunded in 2012. Wasteland 2, Pillars of Eternity, Divinity: Original Sin, Shadowrun Returns, Banner Saga, Expeditions: Conquistador, etc.

The second wave was the sequels and follow-up titles to those games, most of which were unsuccessful (with Divinity: Original Sin 2 as the famous sole exception).

The developers of the first wave have largely moved on to other things and for a while it seemed like the renaissance might be over.

But now we find ourselves facing a huge and unexpected third wave of isometric RPGs, virtually entirely spearheaded by European developers. It turns out that Pathfinder: Kingmaker and ATOM RPG, the games of the so-called "Russian RPG Renaissance" of 2018, were merely the precursors of this wave.

Dark Envoy (Poland)
Disco Elysium (Estonia)
Divinity: Fallen Heroes (Denmark)
Encased (Russia)
Gamedec (Poland)
Iron Danger (Finland)
Paranoia: Happiness is Mandatory (Ireland)
Project Witchstone (Quebec)
Realms Beyond (Germany)
Solasta: Crown of the Magister (France)
Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones (Turkey)
Urban Strife (Romania)
and probably more

These aren't low budget pixel art indies, procedurally generated roguelites, or AoD/Underrail-type amateur efforts that take a decade to complete. They all look polished and professional. Some of them are crowdfunded or will be, but many aren't. It's really an unprecedented situation for the genre. There are so many of them.
I wish I was a very rich person. I would fund them all. Instead the people whose only hobbies riding loud ass cars and banging pure AIDS whores are rich. :negative:
 
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Well the first wave was only successful financially. A large number of Codexians disliked PoE and Wasteland 2. I was very disappointed with both. For me they just weren't fun to play. I never played Divinity, but I think it is pretty well liked here and have been intending to try it. Still yes this is probably a more or less accurate depiction. Eastern Europe especially has a lot of potential because those programmers and artists will work for a fraction of the price of Western programmers and artists. You can have much larger teams or much longer development times for the same price.
 

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The only true capitol of Greece should be Constantinople/Byzantium. And it was within grasp after WW1, but Atatürk happened. A pity, for it was so close. And now 4/5 millions of Greeks have to slowly suffocate in the unhealthy atmosphere of Athens.

And which Georgia do you speak of guys? The true fair country of this name situated in South Caucasus region, the land of beautiful women, brave men and great cuisine?

Or the slave-owning state of the Confederacy, home of the term 'white trash'?
 

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Turkey is definitely more EU than Russia.
The first wave of the isometric RPG renaissance was the games that were crowdfunded in 2012. Wasteland 2, Pillars of Eternity, Divinity: Original Sin, Shadowrun Returns, Banner Saga, Expeditions: Conquistador
You have two Euro games in this list already, not to mention Blackguards and Xulima (and if you're not dead set on isometric, Grimrock and Witcher).
 

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