The RPG Renaissance - the European Third Wave

[AwesomeButton]

Stabbed in the back tier:
Realms Beyond

I can tell this is a conversation-starter.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Encased

What's with Russians and their love for nuclear wastelands

Write what you know.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

Ok so which one of the third wave RPGs are actually good

You can download the Stygian demo right now. I think it’s pretty damn good.

 

[V_K]

Encased

What's with Russians and their love for nuclear wastelands

Well you learn to love where you live if you don't want to sink into depression.

 

[Egosphere]

stygian looks good. I used to be pretty excited for disco elysium, but it'll probably play like an adventure game with a lot of c&c. Might be good, but watching a couple of vids that I hadn't seen before didn't fill me with confidence, writing wise.

 

[Curratum]

No matter how many times you hit that disagree button, AoD and Underrail will not become any prettier visually. Arguing that they are NOT ugly is a lot like arguing Witcher 3 is NOT shallow in terms of systems and mechanics.

 

[Roguey]

Sturgeon's Law will definitely apply.

I call AoD & Underrail amateur efforts because they took so long to make, not because they're bad (or bad-looking) games. RPGs aren't supposed to take 7-10 years to develop. That's not the basis for a real genre resurgence.

It's also an accurate term to use that has no reflection on quality.

a person who engages in a study, sport, or other activity for pleasure rather than for financial benefit or professional reasons.Compare professional.
an athlete who has never competed for payment or for a monetary prize.
a person inexperienced or unskilled in a particular activity:

The AoD team and Styg weren't experienced game developers or even being paid to make games; they were working on their pet projects without pay and did not truly become professionals until Underrail and Age of Decadence were available for sale.

 

[Cryomancer]

Solasta will probably the best on that list. Fly/Climb >>> rest.

Seriously. I can't fly in a RPG since M&M VIII.

 

[Morality Games]

Well, it's not like US was entirely out of the loop.

I felt like Serpent in the Staglands slipped through the cracks for many and Copper Dreams is still pending.

Infinitron specifically excluded American games like Copper Dreams, Iron Oath, and Queen's Wish from this "third wave" because they are indie, rather than AA.

That said, I doubt most of the AA American companies (HBS, Stoic, and inXile) are finished with this genre yet; Stoic and and HBS seem to be gestating and inXile is finishing WL3.

It is however true that the economics of AA RPG development in many ways favor second-world economies over the Anglosphere.

 

[V_K]

I can't fly in a RPG since M&M VIII.

Unexplored sometimes spawns levitation scrolls. And you have zero-G areas in Prey.
But in principle I completely agree - we need more games with levitation!

 

[Cryomancer]

But in principle I completely agree - we need more games with levitation!

Yep. Morrowind has it too... I love when magic can do more than throw fireballs. Raise undead army, craft constructs, levitate, shapechange, dominate others, etc is very interesting.

 

[Neerasrc]

Ok so which one of the third wave RPGs are actually good

You can download the Stygian demo right now. I think it’s pretty damn good.

The man is Turk. He must have looked at the Turk game? I'm Turk, by the way. -) The game is not bad. Waiting for the full version.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

Does Pathologic technically counts as RPG? Or is it just Dybowsky's mind simulator.

 

[LESS T_T]

Dark Envoy (Poland)
Disco Elysium (Estonia)
Divinity: Fallen Heroes (Denmark)
Encased (Russia)
Gamedec (Poland)
Iron Danger (Finland)
Paranoia: Happiness is Mandatory (Ireland)
Project Witchstone (Quebec)
Realms Beyond (Germany)
Solasta: Crown of the Magister (France)
Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones (Turkey)
Urban Strife (Romania)
and probably more

Even more isometric RPGs announced in last one month:

Shadow of the Road (Poland)
Project Haven (Portugal)
Zoria: Age of Shattering (Romania)
Broken Roads (Australia)

 

[V_K]

But how many of them are turn-based?

 

[LESS T_T]

But how many of them are turn-based?

Why, all of them.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

RPG Renaissance is an interesting way to describe games that go back to Antiquity in terms of mechanics.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

RPG Renaissance is an interesting way to describe games that go back to Antiquity in terms of mechanics.

I see that you're going to claw that ownership back.

 

[Falksi]

Are any of them any good?

And if so which ones?

The only one I've played is Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones and, whilst the atmosphere was superb, as a game to play it was fairly shit tbh.