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Ultima The Ultima Underworld I & II Thread

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I'm playing Ultima Underworld off DOSBox right now, unmodded. I didn't even know there were mods. :oops:
There aren't, dunno where you got that impression.

I didn't pick up the mandolin, but I made a note on where it is. I am running around with a regular pole, fishing pole and rock hammer for tools.
Have you tried using the fishing pole btw?

I still haven't gained anything from the goblins, and don't know if they bestow a relic or artifact to the Avatar, too.
Remember that Cabirus gave one artifact to each race, but that doesn't mean they still have it. Keep talking to people. Make notes. Ask them about everything you can, use they keywords if you think they might know something.

I found a note that says a blade from the magic sword I am looking for can be found on the southeast corner of the fourth floor, but damned if I can find the way in. I've searched the walls in the southeast, but no luck. I'm hoping that the fourth level may have a stair up the the southeast corner of the fifth.
Reread that note. Very carefully.
 

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Been to level 3, have you? Bica, yeshor'click. Tosa thesh Thepa? Tosa thit Zak. ;-)

I should have been more clear, the only real upgrade that's available for UUW1/UUW2 are the patches and 'proper' music/sound playback. I've always played them with an Adlib/Sound Blaster configuration. I'm hoping someone has fixed the annoying stuttering sound bug in UUW2, anyone remember that?
 

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Definitely get Roland sound for the UU games, if you can (you may have to pirate the ROMs needed). There's a world of difference.
 

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Definitely get Roland sound for the UU games, if you can (you may have to pirate the ROMs needed). There's a world of difference.
Ultima Underworld is one of my ALL TIME favorite games but never played it with Roland sound. PLEASE, PLEASE... someone write a quick guide on how to get this sound going! Also, I tried finding the ROMs but I guess I'm a lousy pirate.... :oops:

Edit: Well, here's the link for the MUNT DosBox build but don't I need the Roland ROMs? Haven't tracked those down yet. When I do where to they go in DosBox?

http://ykhwong.x-y.net/
 
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Definitely get Roland sound for the UU games, if you can (you may have to pirate the ROMs needed). There's a world of difference.
Ultima Underworld is one of my ALL TIME favorite games but never played it with Roland sound. PLEASE, PLEASE... someone write a quick guide on how to get this sound going! Also, I tried finding the ROMs but I guess I'm a lousy pirate.... :oops:

Edit: Well, here's the link for the MUNT DosBox build but don't I need the Roland ROMs? Haven't tracked those down yet. When I do where to they go in DosBox?

http://ykhwong.x-y.net/
You don't really need no fancy dosbox build. I'll send you the stuff if you want.
 

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You don't really need no fancy dosbox build.
Default build IIRC doesn't have MUNT included, so yeah you do need a fancy build Besides ykhwong's is awesome.

don't I need the Roland ROMs? Haven't tracked those down yet.
Track down the CM-32L ROMs in particular, NOT the regular MT-32 ones. UW1 fully uses the extra sounds and they're GLORIOUS. Won't post any links due to Kodex Kritical Kcensorship.
 

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Someone asked if I had gone fishing yet, and the answer is yes. I had the fishing rod, but I had so much food I didn't want to waste inventory space with more. Then I met a survivor on the fourth floor who told me about a fishing pond and I gave it a try. Pretty easy to do.

Fun fact: I used the levitate spell to get the blueprints for the mad dwarf, then ended up using his flying potion to get around some hard to reach areas on the third floor.

I also found the sword blade on level 3 by using a scroll that let me see secret doors, picked up on level 4. I was searching in the wrong spot, and would never have guessed it. I joined the knight order, killed the chaos knight for them, then found the writ to go from squire to knight. Now they want me to get the gold plate for my next advancement, but I searched the maze and only found two secret doors. No plate, and there looks like there is a lot more to explore in the north west, but I have no idea what I'm missing. I also found some dials east of there along with two buttons, but hell if I know what to do with them. Someone mentioned the artifacts being the key to some of the puzzles, but I have the Taper of Sacrifice and the Standard of Honor but when I look at them I get short descriptions. I haven't found the four levers that allow me to get the Ring of Humility yet. Because I ran into these problems I moved on to Level 5, which was split into two sections. I had to cast levitate on level 4 to get to one of those sections.

In level 5 I found a sword haft in the burial chambers. I assume this is the second half of the sword I was looking for, so I am rushing back to the dwarven smith now. I also have a jewelled sword from the Chaos Knight that has been pretty effective. I have a couple of quests from level 5: find an old woman's lost love and get some metal for a wizard. I have no idea how to complete these tasks, however, as I am missing either secret doors or some such. I haven't even met the level 5 friendly compound yet. There are indications that they are ghouls. I found an entrance to level 6, however, and I am considering moving on.
 

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. I have a couple of quests from level 5: find an old woman's lost love and get some metal for a wizard. I have no idea how to complete these tasks, however, as I am missing either secret doors or some such. I haven't even met the level 5 friendly compound yet. There are indications that they are ghouls. I found an entrance to level 6, however, and I am considering moving on.

I remember pulling my hairs out over the woman's lost love when I played it for the first time.
Best thing is, keep looking and remember that she might be content with less than getting him back in person. I guess you will know when you are able to complete that quest. It might take a little while, though.
The metal quest will require to find some place (and gain access to it) where metal can typically be found...

Also, you should definitely try to find those other friendlies you talked about, it will help you tremendously with some tasks.
 

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The four levers that allow you to get the Ring of Humility are on level 5, with that you're halfway through gathering up the talismans. 3 of the remaining 4 are on level 6, while the Cup of Wonder... well, have fun finding that one. :)

When it comes to the friendlies on level 6... remember the virtues.

Hold off on going down to level 7 as long as possible.

Finally, to create some interesting food, combine an ear of corn with a lit torch.
 

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You don't really need no fancy dosbox build.
Default build IIRC doesn't have MUNT included, so yeah you do need a fancy build Besides ykhwong's is awesome.

don't I need the Roland ROMs? Haven't tracked those down yet.
Track down the CM-32L ROMs in particular, NOT the regular MT-32 ones. UW1 fully uses the extra sounds and they're GLORIOUS. Won't post any links due to Kodex Kritical Kcensorship.
Found the ROMs. :D Do I just drop them in my DosBox folder?
 

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No, you get a special version of dosbox first.
If you're on ubuntu search for a ppa with the patched dosbox and drop the roms on ~/.dosbox
If you're on windows search for a build with mt32 (it's a sticky on the forums) and drop the roms on the dosbox dir.

The reason it's not built in is spurious legal threats from butthurt Roland that the main dosbox devs don't want to deal with.
 

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No, you get a special version of dosbox first.
If you're on ubuntu search for a ppa with the patched dosbox and drop the roms on ~/.dosbox
If you're on windows search for a build with mt32 (it's a sticky on the forums) and drop the roms on the dosbox dir.

The reason it's not built in is spurious legal threats from butthurt Roland that the main dosbox devs don't want to deal with.
I've got the special DosBox build but wanted to know if I just pop the ROMs directly into the main folder or do they go elswhere?
 

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Depends on the platform. If on windows, i think just dropping them there works fine. Then you need to use the game installer to select the mt32 (or midi device, or whatever they call it).
 

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Thanks. :thumbsup:
Depends on the platform. If on windows, i think just dropping them there works fine. Then you need to use the game installer to select the mt32 (or midi device, or whatever they call it).

... and it works perfectly!!! I can hear a subtle difference already in the music. What are the major differences in the audio?

Now once again I'm being drawn into The Stygian Abyss and can't seem to drag myself away... man, this is STILL such a great game!! Nostalgia or rose-colored glasses my butt!!!

:yeah:
 

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... and it works perfectly!!! I can hear a subtle difference already in the music. What are the major differences in the audio?

Splashing water, swimming, swords striking something hard sounds like just that, instead of some wishy-washy weak effects that make you wonder if the sound is buggy.
 

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Hmm... rummaging through my game collection, it turns out that the most recent version I have of the Underworld games are from the RPG Archives collection that Interplay released somewhere around 1997. Does anyone here know whether they're patched versions or not?
 
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Munt has come a long way indeed, after reading this thread I decided to give it another go - last time I had tried it was a couple of years ago, and it was very buggy. Now, it's really almost perfect. That Korean Dosbox build is awesome as well, for other reasons (although the Munt integration is great in itself).

I feel like replaying UW and Betrayal at Krondor with glorious MT-32 music now.
 

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Hmm... rummaging through my game collection, it turns out that the most recent version I have of the Underworld games are from the RPG Archives collection that Interplay released somewhere around 1997. Does anyone here know whether they're patched versions or not?
They must be. The patch came out in 92 or 93 and all subsequent compilations are patched.

Fun fact: I used the levitate spell to get the blueprints for the mad dwarf, then ended up using his flying potion to get around some hard to reach areas on the third floor
That's exactly what you're supposed to do. There are a few places accessible only by Fly or Levitate.

I also found the sword blade on level 3 by using a scroll that let me see secret doors, picked up on level 4. I was searching in the wrong spot, and would never have guessed it.
That's because you were not paying attention or missed on a clue. You are told somewhere about a secret door behind vines on the wall. The spot with the secret door is one small section of wall, in the area where you're told the blade is, and it is the ONLY section of wall in that entire area with vines on the wall. Granted it IS one of the more difficult hidden secrets to find, especially since the secret door won't appear on the map until you click on the vines to move them.

Someone mentioned the artifacts being the key to some of the puzzles, but I have the Taper of Sacrifice and the Standard of Honor but when I look at them I get short descriptions.
Don't worry about this for now, it'll become clear later on. Do notice that some of the artifacts can be used in place of normal items - the Taper as a light source, the Sword as a sword, and so on. One mechanics spoiler: the Sword is unbreakable. It's not as powerful as the best weapons you can find, but it's convenient to not have to worry about durability (and you save on some encumbrance).

I haven't found the four levers that allow me to get the Ring of Humility yet.
You'll get there, just keep exploring. You don't have to do everything on one level before moving to the next, and you will have to backtrack, but do try to get as much done as possible before moving to lvl 7 (don't worry if a few things are left unfinished though). And keep a save just before lvl 7, just in case.

find an old woman's lost love and get some metal for a wizard. I have no idea how to complete these tasks, however, as I am missing either secret doors or some such. I haven't even met the level 5 friendly compound yet.
The metal should be easy to get to from near the wizard himself IIRC (there's a teleporter). For the woman, as usual take notes and keep exploring. The lvl 5 friendly compound is directly at one of the stairs from lvl 4, so you probably entered from another side. You may want to find it sooner than later, for a couple of reasons (not essential ATM though).
 
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Also if you haven't learned that yet, there are rune combinations that you have to find out by yourself. There is one that will come quite handy on the lower levels.

specially if you are dumb like me and threw the worm stew recipe away because "I already got the ingredients in a bowl anyway"

Hmm... rummaging through my game collection, it turns out that the most recent version I have of the Underworld games are from the RPG Archives collection that Interplay released somewhere around 1997. Does anyone here know whether they're patched versions or not?
press alt+f7 in-game to see which version it is. Most recent one I think is 1.94.
 

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Wow, never knew the music and sounds were so different with the Roland emulation! The sound of water is a huge difference as well as the deeper base of the music when walking.
 

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