The Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition

[DalekFlay]

Saying it is a console-style action RPG makes sense. I still love it, but it is that, certainly.

Saying the plot sucks? No. It's as interesting as medieval wankery has been since Planescape, probably.

Probably not.

Lay a traditional elves and dwarves Tolkien blowjob that was more interesting on me, then. You can't spend more letters writing "probably not" than the name of a game and expect me to take you seriously.

 

[tuluse]

I hadn't read the books and I had no trouble following the story.

Also, the game doesn't make you care about Yennifer. You can almost totally ignore that part of the game.

However, Geralt is suffering severe anmesia and she is a key to his past, so even if you don't care about her personally, that seems like enough motivation to want to find out what happened.

 

[tuluse]

Saying it is a console-style action RPG makes sense. I still love it, but it is that, certainly.

Saying the plot sucks? No. It's as interesting as medieval wankery has been since Planescape, probably.

Probably not.

Lay a traditional elves and dwarves Tolkien blowjob that was more interesting on me, then. You can't spend more letters writing "probably not" than the name of a game and expect me to take you seriously.

You just changed medieval wankery into dwarves and elves. A Song of Fire and Ice is the best medieval wankery and has neither.

 

[DalekFlay]

You just changed medieval wankery into dwarves and elves. A Song of Fire and Ice is the best medieval wankery and has neither.

By wankery I mean traditional Forgotten Realms/Tolkien bullshit. I was so amazingly bored with that crap until The Witcher and The Witcher 2 made it interesting again, the second one especially since the original had a shit translation.

 

[Infinitron]

I can agree that the game should have done more to make you feel the pain of Geralt's amnesia, thus motivating his quest for Yennefer.

There's one thing that's bothering me about the plot though, although I haven't played Iorveth's path yet so maybe the answer is there.

Why the heck was it so important for the Nilfgaardians to kidnap Triss? They just brought Geralt down upon themselves by doing that. Why didn't they just leave Geralt and co alone and wait patiently for the Loc Muinne summit? It doesn't seem to me like Letho really needed their help.

 

[Captain Shrek]

Why the heck was it so important for the Nilfgaardians to kidnap Triss? They just brought Geralt down upon themselves by doing that. Why didn't they just leave Geralt and co alone and wait patiently for the Loc Muinne summit? It doesn't seem to me like Letho really needed their help.

I don't remember the details so well. I think they did NOT want to Kidnap Triss. She probably witnessed something she should not have or like that, if memory serves me right.

 

[Infinitron]

Why the heck was it so important for the Nilfgaardians to kidnap Triss? They just brought Geralt down upon themselves by doing that. Why didn't they just leave Geralt and co alone and wait patiently for the Loc Muinne summit? It doesn't seem to me like Letho really needed their help.

I don't remember the details so well. I think they did NOT want to Kidnap Triss. She probably witnessed something she should not have or like that, if memory serves me right.

She learned of the Sorceress Lodge conspiracy shortly before being kidnapped. But I'm not sure if the Nilfgaardians even knew that before they took her.

 

[Captain Shrek]

Why the heck was it so important for the Nilfgaardians to kidnap Triss? They just brought Geralt down upon themselves by doing that. Why didn't they just leave Geralt and co alone and wait patiently for the Loc Muinne summit? It doesn't seem to me like Letho really needed their help.

I don't remember the details so well. I think they did NOT want to Kidnap Triss. She probably witnessed something she should not have or like that, if memory serves me right.

She learned of the Sorceress Lodge conspiracy shortly before being kidnapped. But I'm not sure if the Nilfgaardians even knew that before they took her.

Shit. I can't even remember this correctly.

Is it that she is Kidnapped by Letho WHO DOES NOT hand her over to Nilfgaard and she gets captured in some other way?

 

[tuluse]

My memory is also extremely hazy. Doesn't she teleport herself somewhere really awkward and then gets captured?

 

[Infinitron]

Is it that she is Kidnapped by Letho WHO DOES NOT hand her over to Nilfgaard and she gets captured in some other way?

Yep. Though TBH I don't remember this too well also. In the Roche path, you only learn about it when saving Triss from the Nilfgaardians.

 

[Infinitron]

7:09

Triss is kidnapped immediately upon reaching Vergen, before she has an opportunity to tell anybody what she heard. Maybe Letho...?

 

[Mrowak]

7:09

Triss is kidnapped immediately upon reaching Vergen, before she has an opportunity to tell anybody what she heard. Maybe Letho...?

Play the Iorveth's path. It explains how exactly Triss got kidnapped.

 

[Captain Shrek]

Triss is kidnapped immediately upon reaching Vergen, before she has an opportunity to tell anybody what she heard. Maybe Letho...?

Hmm.

So probably Assire thought that Triss knew of the lodge and carried her. Seems like a misunderstanding in hasty action.

 

[Infinitron]

The question is, why is knowledge of the Lodge a reason for Triss to be kidnapped? After all, the Nilfgaardians want to frame the Lodge for the murders.

On the other hand, if Triss is freed, she manages to significantly reduce the scope of the anti-mage backlash caused by the revelation of the Lodge's doings. So maybe that's what the Nilfgaardians were afraid of. They wanted details of the Lodge to be revealed on their terms.

 

[Captain Shrek]

The question is, why is knowledge of the Lodge a reason for Triss to be kidnapped? After all, the Nilfgaardians want to frame the Lodge for the murders.

On the other hand, if Triss is freed, she manages to significantly reduce the scope of the anti-mage backlash caused by the revelation of the Lodge's doings. So maybe that's what the Nilfgaardians were afraid of. They wanted details of the Lodge to be revealed on their terms.

Probably they did not know the extent of Triss' (non) involvement in the plan and thought that she knew more. Considering they did NOT really order her kidnapping, it seems like a wrong decision on the part of assire.

 

[DraQ]

interface

Yeah.

Alchemy

E-Yup.

Character development

From cRPG PoV, yeah, from X with cRPG elements PoV, not really.

The combat

Still better than TW1.

That kraken creature fight was based solely on randomness.

Nope, but it still sucked.

The story is also incredibly badly written and confusing.

Hahahahohoho no.

 

[Surf Solar]

The story is also incredibly badly written and confusing.

Hahahahohoho no.

While I wouldn't say it's badly written either, it failed to entertain me or make me care for it. Bunch of random kingdoms/villages or whatever spin intrigues over each other? That's just not really interesting or fun to me.

 

[evdk]

While I wouldn't say it's badly written either, it failed to entertain me or make me care for it. Bunch of random kingdoms/villages or whatever spin intrigues over each other? That's just not really interesting or fun to me.

Fair enough, it's just that the plot was in no way hard to follow.

 

[DraQ]

The story is also incredibly badly written and confusing.

Hahahahohoho no.

While I wouldn't say it's badly written either, it failed to entertain me or make me care for it. Bunch of random kingdoms/villages or whatever spin intrigues over each other? That's just not really interesting or fun to me.

Not epic enough?

 

[Surf Solar]

The story is also incredibly badly written and confusing.

Hahahahohoho no.

While I wouldn't say it's badly written either, it failed to entertain me or make me care for it. Bunch of random kingdoms/villages or whatever spin intrigues over each other? That's just not really interesting or fun to me.

Not epic enough?

I don't like epic shit, it's just that such medieval kingdoms, intrigues etc. are boring to me. I have enough drama and intrigues in real life, I don't want to watch fat greasy kings in a game either. If it's just a part of the world I might bear it, but not when almost the entir focus (aside Geralts personal story) is put on this.

 

[Toffeli]

I've read only the Last Wish, but I had no difficulty following the story. Might have read more, if the Finnish/English translations would have arrived in time. There's tons of problems with the gameplay, but the storyline seems fine.
Really. Okay I finished the first game 6 times. (The last playthrough was one I played only when I was drunk. :D Then again I'm an alcoholic). There's somewhat incostincy with the W1 end game assassin, but really, nothing retardo valueworth.

E: Drunk once again

 

[pistletoe]

Spoilers abound.

I highly doubt the modding tools can fix the game. I just completed it, and it was really really bad. I am not sure what the general consensus on the codex was, but god : the interface was awful, it is a console game at heart and full of bullshits. Alchemy and Crafting were perfectly useless. Character development was weird and fucked up. The combat, my god, do not get me started on the combat : it mainly involves rolling around and once in a while do a sword blow or most often in my case throw fireballs. Once you're out of mana, it's just rolling around until the mana regens and you can cast some more fireballs. Difficulty is ridiculous : 99% of the combat are so easy you cannot lose, the last 1% is almost impossible. That kraken creature fight was based solely on randomness. Sometimes, you are attacked at thend of a cutscene by guards with bows : they start shooting before you get control of your character again and you start with 10% of your life if you just have shit luck at the moment.

The story is also incredibly badly written and confusing. Seriously, I have not read the books and it was possibly my mistake but CD Projekt said at multiple times this wasn't necessary. I followed Witcher I's story perfectly ; the sequel let me play in a perpetual state of confusion at what was going on around me. Internal politics of the game world are crazy and people talk from the start like everything they said is pretty obvious although it is the first time you are introduced to such concepts and notions. Some key scenes are hidden and just told by Dandelion or other characters in an even more confusing way. The developpers also failed to make you care about what happens to the world around you and concerning Geralt's story, the storytelling is also awful. His story is never mentioned, except in hastily done prerendered cutscenes which explain his matter-of-the-fact without explaining anything. Geralt died and ressurected ? It appears to be no big deal to him. I'm supposed to care about Yennifer ? Who the fuck is she ? It also has inconsistencies. The incredibly lengthy dialog with Letho at the end where the bad guy needs to explain everything that has been going on is also the mark of a bad storytelling. There was even an inconsistency with this one, where it is said that Letho went after Foltest after killing Demavend. Really, then what about Witcher I ending ? No question about that Geralt ? Fuck you. And what about those bits that let you control other characters ? Nobody told CD Projekt the whole world recognized this as a bad idea too ? Interface gets awkward, people talk about more shit you can't understand ; I also loved the Assassin's bit where the wolf traps suddenly get deadly where as it doesn't hurt Geralt for shit. You have to avoid the brown traps hidden on a grey background with a stupid fuck instagram filter. Get hit once, try again. Where's Waldo ?

The sidesquests might make up for it then. Well, no, there are no sidequests. Actually, only a couple by chapter, all not interesting at all. Kill monsters, win at dice, win at arm wrestling, seriously? Is this what we have come to ?


It's a pretty game, though, I grant you that.

Been a long time since I've read this much concentrated hyperbole and bullshit. thanks for the opportunity.

 

[Taxnomore]

You even took the time to register to post this, I'm sincerely flattered !

 

[RK47]

: x

 

[RK47]

The story is also incredibly badly written and confusing.

Hahahahohoho no.

While I wouldn't say it's badly written either, it failed to entertain me or make me care for it. Bunch of random kingdoms/villages or whatever spin intrigues over each other? That's just not really interesting or fun to me.

Not epic enough?

I don't like epic shit, it's just that such medieval kingdoms, intrigues etc. are boring to me. I have enough drama and intrigues in real life, I don't want to watch fat greasy kings in a game either. If it's just a part of the world I might bear it, but not when almost the entir focus (aside Geralts personal story) is put on this.

ur right... fallout new vegas suffer from the same shit. i cant give a damn who wins in the end...