The Witcher 3 GOTY Edition

[rusty_shackleford]

can't be rpgoty if it's not an rpg

 

[Heroic Liberator]

can't be rpgoty if it's not an rpg

Cope.

 

[AwesomeButton]

can't be rpgoty if it's not an rpg

I've always maintained it's a good interactive movie, not a good RPG.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

can't be rpgoty if it's not an rpg

I've always maintained it's a good interactive movie, not a good RPG.

I'm glad we agree that disco communism is an interactive novel.

 

[AwesomeButton]

can't be rpgoty if it's not an rpg

I've always maintained it's a good interactive movie, not a good RPG.

I'm glad we agree that disco communism is an interactive novel.

In DE your stats determine the branching of conversations and success of skillchecks. It's still more RPG than Witcher 3.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

can't be rpgoty if it's not an rpg

I've always maintained it's a good interactive movie, not a good RPG.

I'm glad we agree that disco communism is an interactive novel.

In DE your stats determine the branching of conversations and success of skillchecks. It's still more RPG than Witcher 3.

When did branching conversations become the definition of RPG?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

can't be rpgoty if it's not an rpg

I've always maintained it's a good interactive movie, not a good RPG.

I'm glad we agree that disco communism is an interactive novel.

In DE your stats determine the branching of conversations and success of skillchecks. It's still more RPG than Witcher 3.

When did branching conversations become the definition of RPG?

The law of the 'dex: any talk about vidya will inadvertently lead to a shift in conversation to the topic of what constitutes an RPG.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

That being said, even though I've quite enjoyed DE, I find it mind-boggling how you could consider DE to be more of an RPG than TW3, AwesomeButton.

 

[Sweeper]

can't be rpgoty if it's not an rpg

I really don't want to defend the storyfag POV, but essentially every single RPG is divided into two parts: combat and mechanics related to it on the one and roleplaying, story and C&C on the other side.
I think storyfags and RPers are retarded, but it's still a valid part of what makes an RPG an RPG.
That said I haven't even played Disco Elysium, but I assume you can RP and solve quests in various ways through dialogue choices.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

That said I haven't even played Disco Elysium, but I assume you can RP and solve quests in various ways through dialogue choices.

that makes it an adventure game.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

That said I haven't even played Disco Elysium, but I assume you can RP and solve quests in various ways through dialogue choices.

that makes it an adventure game.

But what makes an RPG?

 

[jackofshadows]

That being said, even though I've quite enjoyed DE, I find it mind-boggling how you could consider DE to be more of an RPG than TW3

Yup, I think so too. In TW3, the only affection of the whole char system progression on the game's world is Axii in dialogues. That's it. The game basically don't give a flying fuck what kind of a witcher you are outside of combat. Unlike DE, obviously.

 

[AwesomeButton]

can't be rpgoty if it's not an rpg

I've always maintained it's a good interactive movie, not a good RPG.

I'm glad we agree that disco communism is an interactive novel.

In DE your stats determine the branching of conversations and success of skillchecks. It's still more RPG than Witcher 3.

When did branching conversations become the definition of RPG?

I said *more RPG*. "RPG" as a quality of a game.
It's still orders of magnitude better than "if it has no combat it's not an RPG" which is obviously wrong.

 

[Sweeper]

that makes it an adventure game.

Not if it has levels, exp and skills.
It just completely replaced combat with NPC interactions and dialogue.
I don't like it and would never play it, but it's still an RPG.

 

[AwesomeButton]

That being said, even though I've quite enjoyed DE, I find it mind-boggling how you could consider DE to be more of an RPG than TW3, AwesomeButton.

It allows for more of what is literally the "roleplay" part of "RPG". Creating a character concept and expressing it through your choices.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

That being said, even though I've quite enjoyed DE, I find it mind-boggling how you could consider DE to be more of an RPG than TW3

Yup, I think so too. In TW3, the only affection of the whole char system progression on the game's world is Axii in dialogues. That's it. The game basically don't give a flying fuck what kind of a witcher you are outside of combat. Unlike DE, obviously.

True, but TW3 also has much more C&C in terms of quest resolutions and what not, while DE's strong point is that it gives you an overabundance of textual flavor.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

That being said, even though I've quite enjoyed DE, I find it mind-boggling how you could consider DE to be more of an RPG than TW3, AwesomeButton.

It allows for more of what is literally the "roleplay" part of "RPG". Creating a character concept and expressing it through your choices.

It allows for more maybe, but both have it. TW3 on the other hand also has a real combat system and an equipment & inventory system which is much better integrated into the game's mechanics and much more fleshed out. From this perspective, TW3 allows for both the more theatrical part of roleplaying (C&C and what not) and the more wargamey part which combatfags define as the quintessential aspect of a CRPG.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

that makes it an adventure game.

Not if it has levels, exp and skills.
It just completely replaced combat with NPC interactions and dialogue.
I don't like it and would never play it, but it's still an RPG.

So KQ8 is an RPG?

 

[Sweeper]

So KQ8 is an RPG?

Yes. King's Quest 8 is an RPG.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Creating a character concept and expressing it through your choices.

How am I to express my character concept in a game sans combat dammit.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Creating a character concept and expressing it through your choices.

How am I to express my character concept in a game sans combat dammit.

with quirky twitter speak from millennial writers

 

[Heroic Liberator]

And the gap between combatfags and storyfags shall never be mended.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

And the gap between combatfags and storyfags shall never be mended.

Of course it won't, we can't even settle on combat as a universal basis of conflict resolution.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

They should have done the CGI TV series instead of this click-click-pow-pow action game.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

You don't need to settle on it when you can just bash their brains in.